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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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I have always enjoyed driving on the Shen. With my stock power and stock suspension, I can turn pretty decent laps against much more powerful (and heavier cars) there and the number of turns makes it fun. I'll be on the Shen again this weekend for the 3rd time this season.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Ernie,

You really should get yourself a set of hoosier road race slicks..
Don't buy anything else..

They are simply the best tires i have ever driven on..

Oh you should also get yourself a shifter kart. This way you can keep your fd as a drag/street car and race the shifter kart so me and my brother can whip your ***!!! LOL..
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Oh I didn't realize it was Shenandoah either. I was thinking about going if it was on the main track.

Be careful out there. How much power would you be putting down with the lower WG spring?

Also what's Peter driving?
At 20psi I put down 640rwhp, so at 10 Im really not sure. Hopefully about 400rwhp.
Peter is bringing both, his 20B RX7 as well as his white road race car that he won Pikes Peak in.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Ernie,

You really should get yourself a set of hoosier road race slicks..
Don't buy anything else..

They are simply the best tires i have ever driven on..

Oh you should also get yourself a shifter kart. This way you can keep your fd as a drag/street car and race the shifter kart so me and my brother can whip your ***!!! LOL..
Bro, this is a whole new world for me. I don't even know what the heck a shifter kart is, lol...
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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here you go..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZnlU...eature=related
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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if them hoosiers can keep a 1200+hp viper on the road, im sure they will be good for a lighter RX7
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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They do very well with the viper... There also doing well on the 1200hp GT40.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 03:26 AM
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Why not just get into drifting? I dare ya! You could be next "Drift King"!

How hard can it really be?
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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^^^
HA HA, that ain't happenin!
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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If it's your first time out, don't bother with Hoosiers.

If you absolutely don't want to tear up street tires/wheels, try something a little more forgiving/long-lasting, like a Toyo R1... but the best approach is just to learn on streets.

It'll be hard to open those big turbo, three-rotor, or full-race cars up on the Shen. It's pretty cramped.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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here is a vid of my brother at summitt point....shenandoh circuit. it is very tight.
it is very technical and ernie shouldn't be going "***** out " without knowing the track first.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Csx86DkkUI

don't forget to get some dot 4 new fluid and bleed the brake lines. you will have air in the lines if you haven't changed the old fluid. get some nice pads and you are good to go big E. I will be there for FATT and the redline time attack both days. it's three days of terror on your car. hope she survives.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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My heart and soul is with drag racing. I just doin this for something to do, lol...[/QUOTE]


yeah, so was mine. you just wait ernie. track days are very addictive. 25 minutes of ejaculating here is a link courtesy of howard coleman. it is good reading. it will reduce your learning curb on car set up. i needed all this info last year. he is a great member for posting it up.


https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/howard-colemans-fd-chassis-setup-723617/
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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I've got to weigh in here again and agree with the comments above. For your first time at the track, you will have your hands full with learning the proper line, changing track and tire conditions, managing traffic, spotting flaggers are and remembering what the flags mean and trying to process everything coming from your instructor and what you've learned in class all at the same time. The best thing you can do for yourself is to drive a stock car with stock power and stock suspension on street tires till you've got a little experience under your belt. Since you're taking a supercar out on your first time, you will have to restrain your right foot and keep checking yourself for signs of "red mist". Also, and this is critically important... Leave your ego at home. Not trying to scare you, just don't want to see anything happen to you or your car.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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[QUOTE=ArmitageGVR4;8399274]I've got to weigh in here again and agree with the comments above. For your first time at the track, you will have your hands full with learning the proper line, changing track and tire conditions, managing traffic, spotting flaggers are and remembering what the flags mean and trying to process everything coming from your instructor and what you've learned in class all at the same time. The best thing you can do for yourself is to drive a stock car with stock power and stock suspension on street tires till you've got a little experience under your belt. Since you're taking a supercar out on your first time, you will have to restrain your right foot and keep checking yourself for signs of "red mist". Also, and this is critically important... Leave your ego at home. Not trying to scare you, just don't want to see anything happen to you or your car.[/QUO


+1 , i say he leaves it in 3rd gear the whole time till he learns the track. big E when you spin don't forget "BOTH FEET IN" LOL kvn
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks for the advise guys. No worries on the ego, I have NO clue about this stuff, lol...
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
Why not just get into drifting? I dare ya! You could be next "Drift King"!

How hard can it really be?
you beat me to it
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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I just took off work for that day, would love to see this in person!!!

What time is everyone going to be there???
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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From a track nut, I would advise against using a performance R-compound your first track day there. It's harder to drive faster with a street tire, than a R-compound, and thus, makes it a better training tool.

Tires that I think you should take a look at:
Yokohama Advan Neova AD07
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
Toyo Proxes R1R

Everyone likes the Falken Azenis RT-615, but I'm not the biggest fan of them.
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Sounds like a lot of fun.

Two reasons why you will do better sticking with a good street tire:
- they communicate better (audibly) and you'll develop car control faster
- they won't overtax your brake system as quickly.

Two reasons why power is irrelevant:
- learning to drive on the track is entirely different from the drag strip which is entirely different from the street. You will NOT be car limited, if anything too much car can severely limit your learning curve
- they only allow passing on certain straights at FATT. You won't be able to "move through", in fact being fast in the straights and slower in the corners will put you further out of rhythm with the rest of the group.

I've only done three track days and all three have been BSR on Shenandoah. It will put the work on your car even though it's not as hard on brakes as main. It will test your driving abilities. It will be big-shitty-grin fun. I'm signed up for the FATT in mid-Sept and late october. I can see why track purists who run open passing sessions might not like the style of Shenandoah, but it's definitely a great track.

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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The last time I was there in my RX-7 (4 years ago I think), I just ran 10 pounds of boost, stock rims with Toyo RA-01 225/50 tires, and Hawk Blue pads with good clean fluid.

The limiting factor was the heat generated by the engine. Watch your coolant temps, and take it easy for half a lap or so if it gets too hot. Remember that loose items are NOT allowed in the car, so you can't bring a laptop. They did allow me to use my PFC Commander for monitoring the temp.... I'm not sure what ECU/monitoring you have on your setup, but the coolant temps would be the main thing I'd watch out for.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Thanks. That was a problem till last week. We swapped out radiators and I used the Evans waterless coolant. Since then, I've never had lower temps!
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Originally Posted by Roen
From a track nut, I would advise against using a performance R-compound your first track day there. It's harder to drive faster with a street tire, than a R-compound, and thus, makes it a better training tool.

Tires that I think you should take a look at:
Yokohama Advan Neova AD07
Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
Toyo Proxes R1R

Everyone likes the Falken Azenis RT-615, but I'm not the biggest fan of them.
I just put a set of RE-01 (stock sizes) on my S2000. Compared to the Bridgestone S-02 I think they are better overall, but the one thing I don't like is that they are "squealy" which attracts unwanted attention on the street. I am hoping that as I put a few hundred miles on them and wear off the edges some they quiet down.

A screeching tire is a sure way to get a cop's attention

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Are they really squealy? I haven't noticed on my set and they've been on > 15,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
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Thanks. That was a problem till last week. We swapped out radiators and I used the Evans waterless coolant. Since then, I've never had lower temps!

You sure it wasn't the oil coolers
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I've done about 50 autox runs on my RE01Rs and they haven't changed their characteristics a bit. (Except maybe a tiny loss of traction because of heat cycling)

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