Rotofest 2007
Son what is your alibi?
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From: New Orleans, Lawrenceville, NJ
okay, i summed it all up if anyone is interested...
Basically this situation is fraud since the price per person was listed on a public website seen by people all over
Fraud is defined to be "an intentional perversion of truth" or a "false misrepresentation of a matter of fact" which induces another person to "part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right".
In addition to the traditional criminal definition of fraud, there are many regulatory laws that have very specific rules that must be complied with. If you do not follow these rules to the letter, you could be charged with and convicted of fraud.
To win a suit for fraud, you must show that you were truly deceived by the misrepresentations given and that you reasonably relied on the statement or act to your detriment. In other words, your reliance on the action or statement affected your course of action. And you suffered harm because of the misrepresentation (ie harm being expenses such as the gas and mileage, headache, stress, gas, i mean whatever)
You must also show that the person making the statement knew it was an outright lie. This element may be a major hurdle to prove because dishonest people are very skillful and ingenious at disguising their statements, knowing the "fine line" to avoid legal trouble or face any scrutiny <-you would need affidavits and signatures to help prove this but you get the point
dont know how far yall are going to take this but just some info
again, <3jenn
Basically this situation is fraud since the price per person was listed on a public website seen by people all over
Fraud is defined to be "an intentional perversion of truth" or a "false misrepresentation of a matter of fact" which induces another person to "part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right".
In addition to the traditional criminal definition of fraud, there are many regulatory laws that have very specific rules that must be complied with. If you do not follow these rules to the letter, you could be charged with and convicted of fraud.
To win a suit for fraud, you must show that you were truly deceived by the misrepresentations given and that you reasonably relied on the statement or act to your detriment. In other words, your reliance on the action or statement affected your course of action. And you suffered harm because of the misrepresentation (ie harm being expenses such as the gas and mileage, headache, stress, gas, i mean whatever)
You must also show that the person making the statement knew it was an outright lie. This element may be a major hurdle to prove because dishonest people are very skillful and ingenious at disguising their statements, knowing the "fine line" to avoid legal trouble or face any scrutiny <-you would need affidavits and signatures to help prove this but you get the point
dont know how far yall are going to take this but just some info
again, <3jenn
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Queens, NYC
there's no difference. you make a threat, you make a threat. joke or not. if you really had a problem with people making physical threats, you wouldn't have made one yourself.
you threw that guy out because he called you on your little stunt of stealing our money and you didn't want to deal with it. again, man up.
... and good to know about your *****. personally, if i had 2 grand to spend on *****, i would have gone for some that make it seem like i get laid once in a while (you know, not huge ones) and i probably wouldn't have gone for hairy ones since they aren't really attractive to the ladies. however, that doesn't really matter for you because you're a pathetic lowlife loser with no self respect who's ugly to boot.
*shrug*
you threw that guy out because he called you on your little stunt of stealing our money and you didn't want to deal with it. again, man up.
... and good to know about your *****. personally, if i had 2 grand to spend on *****, i would have gone for some that make it seem like i get laid once in a while (you know, not huge ones) and i probably wouldn't have gone for hairy ones since they aren't really attractive to the ladies. however, that doesn't really matter for you because you're a pathetic lowlife loser with no self respect who's ugly to boot.
*shrug*
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Queens, NYC
you have nothing left to say, so stop typing. The only good thing from your useless post is my post count keeps going up.
okay, i summed it all up if anyone is interested...
Basically this situation is fraud since the price per person was listed on a public website seen by people all over
Fraud is defined to be "an intentional perversion of truth" or a "false misrepresentation of a matter of fact" which induces another person to "part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right".
In addition to the traditional criminal definition of fraud, there are many regulatory laws that have very specific rules that must be complied with. If you do not follow these rules to the letter, you could be charged with and convicted of fraud.
To win a suit for fraud, you must show that you were truly deceived by the misrepresentations given and that you reasonably relied on the statement or act to your detriment. In other words, your reliance on the action or statement affected your course of action. And you suffered harm because of the misrepresentation (ie harm being expenses such as the gas and mileage, headache, stress, gas, i mean whatever)
You must also show that the person making the statement knew it was an outright lie. This element may be a major hurdle to prove because dishonest people are very skillful and ingenious at disguising their statements, knowing the "fine line" to avoid legal trouble or face any scrutiny <-you would need affidavits and signatures to help prove this but you get the point
Basically this situation is fraud since the price per person was listed on a public website seen by people all over
Fraud is defined to be "an intentional perversion of truth" or a "false misrepresentation of a matter of fact" which induces another person to "part with some valuable thing belonging to him or to surrender a legal right".
In addition to the traditional criminal definition of fraud, there are many regulatory laws that have very specific rules that must be complied with. If you do not follow these rules to the letter, you could be charged with and convicted of fraud.
To win a suit for fraud, you must show that you were truly deceived by the misrepresentations given and that you reasonably relied on the statement or act to your detriment. In other words, your reliance on the action or statement affected your course of action. And you suffered harm because of the misrepresentation (ie harm being expenses such as the gas and mileage, headache, stress, gas, i mean whatever)
You must also show that the person making the statement knew it was an outright lie. This element may be a major hurdle to prove because dishonest people are very skillful and ingenious at disguising their statements, knowing the "fine line" to avoid legal trouble or face any scrutiny <-you would need affidavits and signatures to help prove this but you get the point
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Boston Area, MA
Damn I was about to pass out after driving 6.5 hours home and spending some time with the gf when I thought I'd pop on the boards (both rx8club and here) to see what was "really" going on at Rotorfest. Guess all I heard was true, that of all of us got reamed a quick one with a broomstick.
As all of us have pretty much said if we were told $20 from the begining then we wouldnt be complaining, but the simple fact that everyone was stating different price's for entering from $10 all the way to $35 is what is getting everyone really pissed off. The price of $5 was and had been mentioned atleast on the Rx8club thread several times and you never once tried to correct it. You could of easily told Jason or Chrism and they would of got the word out very very damn quickly. Alot of people put their reputations out there for this event to make it as big as it was and at the end of the day the felt like they did a diservice to all of those who they got to come.
Overall its all about Respect and this sad showing of it from you just goes to show how much character you dont have.
Well with the money you pretty much swindled outa me and my friends who I brought down from MA and CT, I hope you can atleast replace the chicken wire and duct tape that was holding your bumper up.
As all of us have pretty much said if we were told $20 from the begining then we wouldnt be complaining, but the simple fact that everyone was stating different price's for entering from $10 all the way to $35 is what is getting everyone really pissed off. The price of $5 was and had been mentioned atleast on the Rx8club thread several times and you never once tried to correct it. You could of easily told Jason or Chrism and they would of got the word out very very damn quickly. Alot of people put their reputations out there for this event to make it as big as it was and at the end of the day the felt like they did a diservice to all of those who they got to come.
Overall its all about Respect and this sad showing of it from you just goes to show how much character you dont have.
Well with the money you pretty much swindled outa me and my friends who I brought down from MA and CT, I hope you can atleast replace the chicken wire and duct tape that was holding your bumper up.
www.ostcbpt.com
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From: conn.
As I can see you really dont care what others think of you rigt now at this moment, but think the future,what it holds for you..what others will still think of you..remeber the devil made money & it blinds people..it has even made bros kill eac other...it aint worth losing your respect etc...all this for a few dollas..
second time around
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 18
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From: PA
Jason- Thanks! It's crazy though... I was bone stock on July 4th... then the wheels and hood happend... and I picked up a CF engine cover today. Next week is a sub hopefully... and hopefully I'll be doing the rotors and callipers as well.
Vosko, seriously, kid. Shut up. You may have had a car since before we went through puberty but you're still a scammer and an idiot... and daily and hairy DON'T rhyme.
Vosko, seriously, kid. Shut up. You may have had a car since before we went through puberty but you're still a scammer and an idiot... and daily and hairy DON'T rhyme.
Damn I was about to pass out after driving 6.5 hours home and spending some time with the gf when I thought I'd pop on the boards (both rx8club and here) to see what was "really" going on at Rotorfest. Guess all I heard was true, that of all of us got reamed a quick one with a broomstick.
As all of us have pretty much said if we were told $20 from the begining then we wouldnt be complaining, but the simple fact that everyone was stating different price's for entering from $10 all the way to $35 is what is getting everyone really pissed off. The price of $5 was and had been mentioned atleast on the Rx8club thread several times and you never once tried to correct it. You could of easily told Jason or Chrism and they would of got the word out very very damn quickly. Alot of people put their reputations out there for this event to make it as big as it was and at the end of the day the felt like they did a diservice to all of those who they got to come.
Overall its all about Respect and this sad showing of it from you just goes to show how much character you dont have.
Well with the money you pretty much swindled outa me and my friends who I brought down from MA and CT, I hope you can atleast replace the chicken wire and duct tape that was holding your bumper up.
As all of us have pretty much said if we were told $20 from the begining then we wouldnt be complaining, but the simple fact that everyone was stating different price's for entering from $10 all the way to $35 is what is getting everyone really pissed off. The price of $5 was and had been mentioned atleast on the Rx8club thread several times and you never once tried to correct it. You could of easily told Jason or Chrism and they would of got the word out very very damn quickly. Alot of people put their reputations out there for this event to make it as big as it was and at the end of the day the felt like they did a diservice to all of those who they got to come.
Overall its all about Respect and this sad showing of it from you just goes to show how much character you dont have.
Well with the money you pretty much swindled outa me and my friends who I brought down from MA and CT, I hope you can atleast replace the chicken wire and duct tape that was holding your bumper up.
those zipties make your car faster. you didnt know ?
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Queens, NYC
I was nice enough to advertise on my page since everyone was emailing and PM bombing me about the event. I wasnt that lazy like you, i actually took the time out to get pics and put up a page so that i can get ppl information about the event.
How silly of me trying to help people out, guess i shouldnt and just let other ppl do the work for me while i line my pockets with fressh greenbacks
Yo dude stop posting your just posting useless info , if you have a real rebuttal please give it.
Jason- Thanks! It's crazy though... I was bone stock on July 4th... then the wheels and hood happend... and I picked up a CF engine cover today. Next week is a sub hopefully... and hopefully I'll be doing the rotors and callipers as well.
Vosko, seriously, kid. Shut up. You may have had a car since before we went through puberty but you're still a scammer and an idiot... and daily and hairy DON'T rhyme.
Vosko, seriously, kid. Shut up. You may have had a car since before we went through puberty but you're still a scammer and an idiot... and daily and hairy DON'T rhyme.
that's the beauty of a public forum. you dont have to shut up and neither do i....
the website that you diligently looked over and okayed me that all the information on my site was correct after i IMed you, why dont you tell them that and stop trying to run around it.
I was nice enough to advertise on my page since everyone was emailing and PM bombing me about the event. I wasnt that lazy like you, i actually took the time out to get pics and put up a page so that i can get ppl information about the event.
How silly of me trying to help people out, guess i shouldnt and just let other ppl do the work for me while i line my pockets with fressh greenbacks
Yo dude stop posting your just posting useless info , if you have a real rebuttal please give it.
I was nice enough to advertise on my page since everyone was emailing and PM bombing me about the event. I wasnt that lazy like you, i actually took the time out to get pics and put up a page so that i can get ppl information about the event.
How silly of me trying to help people out, guess i shouldnt and just let other ppl do the work for me while i line my pockets with fressh greenbacks
Yo dude stop posting your just posting useless info , if you have a real rebuttal please give it.
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,154
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From: Queens, NYC
Damn I was about to pass out after driving 6.5 hours home and spending some time with the gf when I thought I'd pop on the boards (both rx8club and here) to see what was "really" going on at Rotorfest. Guess all I heard was true, that of all of us got reamed a quick one with a broomstick.
As all of us have pretty much said if we were told $20 from the begining then we wouldnt be complaining, but the simple fact that everyone was stating different price's for entering from $10 all the way to $35 is what is getting everyone really pissed off. The price of $5 was and had been mentioned atleast on the Rx8club thread several times and you never once tried to correct it. You could of easily told Jason or Chrism and they would of got the word out very very damn quickly. Alot of people put their reputations out there for this event to make it as big as it was and at the end of the day the felt like they did a diservice to all of those who they got to come.
Overall its all about Respect and this sad showing of it from you just goes to show how much character you dont have.
Well with the money you pretty much swindled outa me and my friends who I brought down from MA and CT, I hope you can atleast replace the chicken wire and duct tape that was holding your bumper up.
As all of us have pretty much said if we were told $20 from the begining then we wouldnt be complaining, but the simple fact that everyone was stating different price's for entering from $10 all the way to $35 is what is getting everyone really pissed off. The price of $5 was and had been mentioned atleast on the Rx8club thread several times and you never once tried to correct it. You could of easily told Jason or Chrism and they would of got the word out very very damn quickly. Alot of people put their reputations out there for this event to make it as big as it was and at the end of the day the felt like they did a diservice to all of those who they got to come.
Overall its all about Respect and this sad showing of it from you just goes to show how much character you dont have.
Well with the money you pretty much swindled outa me and my friends who I brought down from MA and CT, I hope you can atleast replace the chicken wire and duct tape that was holding your bumper up.
Thanks for the support, we all put our necks out as a team and got them snapped.
I wonder who got charged $35, the $5 must of been a lil kid or something since they only count has half lol
Jason NYC
ooooh burn
hahahaha lets make this the BIGGEST thread EVER HAHAHAHAHA this shyt halarious hey lynn my little brother made a sub and box for his 88 u want i can ask him to make u one hahaha jp
second time around
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From: PA
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,154
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From: Queens, NYC
your just getting lame now, i think you should stop while your at the bottom before you dig your grave. You left the rotary games years ago when you blew up the fd, u bring nissans to rotary events wtf.
You may have been around since 2001 on these forums but we have more heart than you do.
Eddy got it right, we respect the game and its players and dont wanna **** on one another but rather elevate it and make it bigger. Silly us; trying to make it grow.
blah blah blah!