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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru
If you want power go with S4 rotors.

I have some housings and Irons.

have 6 or so rotors of various types- only one set of high compresison.

What are you trying to do? Make sure you get the correct counter balances too.
Oh i c, well i was thinking S5's were higher comp or same. Will look at them again.

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is something up with ur Renesis motor?

or did u get a new project?
No Ren going back to stock, turbo is crap and so is WG.. 2k to fix that plus whatever else could go wrong with it. Dont want to go carless for another 4 months.
SO im leaning towards a 20b since i can source the parts fast.. But a 26b is on the back of my mind. Gotta look at some things for that.

I also want to build a simple 13b carb na.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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hey does anyone have a spare n/a ecu they could lend me so i can see if that is the new problem with this car
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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hey does anyone have a spare n/a ecu they could lend me so i can see if that is the new problem with this car
I have an 87 ECU. It's all yours.

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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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Now I need a set of N/A axles. Anyone?

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Originally Posted by DiegoRx8
Oh i c, well i was thinking S5's were higher comp or same. Will look at them again.



No Ren going back to stock, turbo is crap and so is WG.. 2k to fix that plus whatever else could go wrong with it. Dont want to go carless for another 4 months.
SO im leaning towards a 20b since i can source the parts fast.. But a 26b is on the back of my mind. Gotta look at some things for that.

I also want to build a simple 13b carb na.

S5 N/A are 9.1:1, your rx8 rotors i believe are 10:1- but they have difrent weights as Jason said. if you want to return to stock i think even a .3 drop in compression wouldn't jive too well with your stock ECU.

What happened to your turbo and WG btw?
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DiegoRx8
Oh i c, well i was thinking S5's were higher comp or same. Will look at them again.



No Ren going back to stock, turbo is crap and so is WG.. 2k to fix that plus whatever else could go wrong with it. Dont want to go carless for another 4 months.
SO im leaning towards a 20b since i can source the parts fast.. But a 26b is on the back of my mind. Gotta look at some things for that.

I also want to build a simple 13b carb na.
You blow your motor?

Hard to mess a wastegate up..........

You should have ran a real EMS!

If you thought a single turbo took a long time a 20b is much longer/harder/expensive..........

If you know what your doing and have the parts a single only takes a few days to install.

btw I'm up for trades if you need parts
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by E Dogg
S5 N/A are 9.1:1, your rx8 rotors i believe are 10:1- but they have difrent weights as Jason said. if you want to return to stock i think even a .3 drop in compression wouldn't jive too well with your stock ECU.

What happened to your turbo and WG btw?
Its not going on the rx8. renesis is stock and should be fine. I want rotors for a 13b na project.

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You blow your motor?

Hard to mess a wastegate up..........

You should have ran a real EMS!

If you thought a single turbo took a long time a 20b is much longer/harder/expensive..........

If you know what your doing and have the parts a single only takes a few days to install.

btw I'm up for trades if you need parts
WG and TuRBO were **** already. WG location was pretty much 2 inches from ground. Turbo was leaking oil into my cold side. I just decided to take it off and sell it. Never thought a single took long. Took me 4 months cause it was COLD, and i really only worked on it like 15 days for like 1hr each time. LOL
Im getting 20b thats fully rebuild, so doubt i need parts now. For the 13b carb maybe.

Also if you want a Renny, lmk ill be selling mine towards the end of the year.

AND. Anyone going to the GRR auto x in moline this sunday? I might be there
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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so the 20b is going in the RX8?
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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Thats my plan right now, but if i can score a FD roller it might go in that. Either way its gonna be a 13b carb or a 20b swap in it.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DiegoRx8
Its not going on the rx8. renesis is stock and should be fine. I want rotors for a 13b na project.



WG and TuRBO were **** already. WG location was pretty much 2 inches from ground. Turbo was leaking oil into my cold side. I just decided to take it off and sell it. Never thought a single took long. Took me 4 months cause it was COLD, and i really only worked on it like 15 days for like 1hr each time. LOL
Im getting 20b thats fully rebuild, so doubt i need parts now. For the 13b carb maybe.

Also if you want a Renny, lmk ill be selling mine towards the end of the year.

AND. Anyone going to the GRR auto x in moline this sunday? I might be there
what turbo/wastegate and how much?
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Crap turbo.
http://www.xs-power.co.uk/index.php?...roducts_id=155

With crap WG
http://www.xs-power.co.uk/index.php?...roducts_id=256

And crap BOV
http://www.xs-power.co.uk/index.php?...roducts_id=221
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What size of oil line are you running to the turbo?

Non-BB tend to get alot of blow by with too large of oil feed (especially the higher oil pressure in rotary).

The BOV and WG are hard to mess up. Take them off and clearance them if they dont' work.

oh and all I can say is ............. why a T3?
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru
What size of oil line are you running to the turbo?

Non-BB tend to get alot of blow by with too large of oil feed (especially the higher oil pressure in rotary).

The BOV and WG are hard to mess up. Take them off and clearance them if they dont' work.

oh and all I can say is ............. why a T3?
yeah i had a -8 line, will probably make a -4 line when i sell kit for the user. But right now i dont care for it. Gonna sell either way.

t3?? IDK lol i didn't make the kit dude. lol
This is the kit.
http://www.esmerilracing.com/RX-8_Turbo_Kit.html

I figure if i go 20b i can have the same power NA, with only a few more grand on it. But more reliable.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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if that is the size feed line u had theres a good chance u cld be blowing oil just for that reason......


lol when u make 450+ with an NA 20b id like to see the receipts afterword.... it will cost more than you think

the EMS alone is going to be close to 2k unless you find a cheap used one. If you run OE you cant go N/A
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by E Dogg
if that is the size feed line u had theres a good chance u cld be blowing oil just for that reason......


lol when u make 450+ with an NA 20b id like to see the receipts afterword.... it will cost more than you think

the EMS alone is going to be close to 2k unless you find a cheap used one. If you run OE you cant go N/A
Well im thinking more like 350whp na, could make it up towards the 400 but that would be a little too much for what i want it.. Also ill show you receipts, will mostly all be blanks since my parts are source through people i know. And prices are mostly way below msrp. So really cant show or tell..

Also the haltech im planning on using, ps2000 runs around 1600. Now if you were to add gauges and what not then yeah ill give you the 2k. But seeing as i have bunch of gauges and i can get a good deal on it. It prob wont be close to that.

Though if i went with a LT12s then it be way more.. But im dead serious this is happening. I have sourced a few things and it should run me around 10k for rebuilt 20b + emu + itb. then i need a tranny and tare my rx8 up.
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10 k is quite a bit more than turbocharging the Renisis though isn't it? that was my point....

wasn't questioning your sources or anything... but the mounts, hoses, fasteners, connectors and all that add up quick too
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by E Dogg
10 k is quite a bit more than turbocharging the Renisis though isn't it? that was my point....

wasn't questioning your sources or anything... but the mounts, hoses, fasteners, connectors and all that add up quick too
well i spent 5k on the turbo kit. Plus another 1500 for a garret gt35, plus a wg 500, plus a bov 300.. **** adds up. Now if i boost it and later on it blows up thats another 2k to rebuild plus whatever else goes bad.. My point is yes its probably cheaper and easier to just turbo the renesis and have a decent car with decent power... But im not complaning about the money, im willing to spend that and a little more for a more reliable engine. There is already a few guys that had all 3 things i stated go bad. Also there is not a single person that has reached 300whp besides original creator..
Now I know it was my mistake to buy it in the first place, but you live and learn. Now i might be able to sell it for 4k or even 3500. but at least i wont have to suffer with more headaches later on.

And im aware **** adds up fast. All my ss lines and fittings ran me like 500 for the rx8. but what can i do. I want to do this for good experience and plain fun.

There is a guy in ames with red 8, boosted on same kit. gone through 1 turbo already. Will see how long he lasts.
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Originally Posted by rotor88
Steve, I will be calling you today.




E, I do need some brakes. I need front and rear if you have them? Can you PM me a number to reach you?

Thanks guys!
Jesse

wanna give a ring tonight?
i can ship those if u don't wanna drive all way up to CR.
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well i spent 5k on the turbo kit. Plus another 1500 for a garret gt35, plus a wg 500, plus a bov 300.. **** adds up. Now if i boost it and later on it blows up thats another 2k to rebuild plus whatever else goes bad.. My point is yes its probably cheaper and easier to just turbo the renesis and have a decent car with decent power... But im not complaning about the money, im willing to spend that and a little more for a more reliable engine. There is already a few guys that had all 3 things i stated go bad. Also there is not a single person that has reached 300whp besides original creator..
Now I know it was my mistake to buy it in the first place, but you live and learn. Now i might be able to sell it for 4k or even 3500. but at least i wont have to suffer with more headaches later on.

And im aware **** adds up fast. All my ss lines and fittings ran me like 500 for the rx8. but what can i do. I want to do this for good experience and plain fun.

There is a guy in ames with red 8, boosted on same kit. gone through 1 turbo already. Will see how long he lasts.

sounds like the kit might not be thoroughly tested, maybe some things (like the oil feed line) need to be addressed for longevity. you may be able to change a few things and make a reliable setup out of that u have pretty easily.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DiegoRx8
well i spent 5k on the turbo kit. Plus another 1500 for a garret gt35, plus a wg 500, plus a bov 300.. **** adds up. Now if i boost it and later on it blows up thats another 2k to rebuild plus whatever else goes bad.. My point is yes its probably cheaper and easier to just turbo the renesis and have a decent car with decent power... But im not complaning about the money, im willing to spend that and a little more for a more reliable engine. There is already a few guys that had all 3 things i stated go bad. Also there is not a single person that has reached 300whp besides original creator..
Now I know it was my mistake to buy it in the first place, but you live and learn. Now i might be able to sell it for 4k or even 3500. but at least i wont have to suffer with more headaches later on.

And im aware **** adds up fast. All my ss lines and fittings ran me like 500 for the rx8. but what can i do. I want to do this for good experience and plain fun.

There is a guy in ames with red 8, boosted on same kit. gone through 1 turbo already. Will see how long he lasts.

dude... just pick a t3 turbo up and get a normal waste gate and bov and be done.

1k and your back on the road. with quality stuff.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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hey jesse get ahold of me please give me a number or something if you would

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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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E-Dogg. School/work/homework/wife/11 month olds... take too much of my time.

LOL!

I will call you tomorrow fo-sho!

Jesse
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anyone else a weee bit closer than davenport have an ecu for me i have a 86 n/a auto trans
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Originally Posted by E Dogg
sounds like the kit might not be thoroughly tested, maybe some things (like the oil feed line) need to be addressed for longevity. you may be able to change a few things and make a reliable setup out of that u have pretty easily.
Probably, this guy has claimed a lot, but really doesn't want to show his kit as much. Oil feed line was actually custom. My friend needed the one with my kit so i gave it to him while i still worked on mine. Then i went with a bigger line by mistake.

Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru
dude... just pick a t3 turbo up and get a normal waste gate and bov and be done.

1k and your back on the road. with quality stuff.
Who knows, might have to end up doing that if the kit don't sell fast. It would be tial products though, along with a garrett gt35. But either way, 20b gonna be a project.
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Jeez, jason and E you guys need to quit hating on this guy. Leave him alone, if he wants to do the 20b then let him do it he said he doesnt mind about the money.



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