Microtech Need a map
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Need a map
I got a s4 tII with t66 turbo 4in downpipe
550cc primary 1000cc secondary
walboro fuel pump
lt10 setup
Any help would be great this is a first time for me.
550cc primary 1000cc secondary
walboro fuel pump
lt10 setup
Any help would be great this is a first time for me.
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any map is going to be a rough basis just to get the car running and drivable and shouldn't be boosted on until it's cleaned up properly and professionally, you know that i hope.
if your car runs and drives now then leave it alone and find a tuner. the stock base maps are fine for 95% of the configurations unless you have massive primaries(which you don't), so what is the problem?
if your car runs and drives now then leave it alone and find a tuner. the stock base maps are fine for 95% of the configurations unless you have massive primaries(which you don't), so what is the problem?
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that is the issue i need it to run because the people whom i prefer to have tune my car are 350miles away. I figure if I get someones map similar I can take it easy and work out the kinks later.
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Hey bro there 720cc and 1000cc.
Idle Map
Screen 1
30" ~ 1.38
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2
05" ~ 2.1
00" ~ 2.56
2-20psi ~ 4.95
Load Map
Screen 3
30" ~ 0.95
25" ~ 1.19
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2.14
05" ~ 2.57
00" ~ 3.56
2psi ~ 2.9
4psi ~ 3.9
6psi ~ 4.7
8psi ~ 5.1
10psi ~ 5.6
14psi ~ 6.2
16psi ~ 6.8
18psi ~ 7.4
20psi ~ 8
RPMwot Map Screen 17
5000 ~ 05
5500 ~ 08
6000 ~ 08
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 11
7500 ~ 11
8000 ~ 11
9000 ~ 12
The rest are zero
RPMcrs Screen 18
1000 ~ -12
1500 ~ -11
2000 ~ -12
THe rest are zero
Pump Map
Screen 19
Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 00
Pump1Pulse ~ 04
Pump1Trig ~ 18
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05
Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05
PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00
Water Map
Screen 20
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-01 ~ 50
05 ~ 45
11 ~ 45
18 ~ 42
24 ~ 34
31 ~ 26
38 ~ 24
46 ~ 19
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 06
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Air_t Map
Screen 21
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Crank Map
Screen 22
-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
t*rpm
Screen 23
Idle ~ 10
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25
t*map Map
Screen 24
Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 02
8psi ~ -04
10psi ~ -06
14psi ~ -10
16psi ~ -12
18 psi ~ -16
20 psi ~ -20
t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.
t*gap
Screen 26
0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10
t*Inj Map
Screen 27
0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 150
4000 ~ 150
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270
t*wat Map Screen 28
ANd the rest are zero
Option Map
Screen 30
Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.25 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 1320
MAPstg ~ 02"
%stg ~ 50
Map isnt guranteed to work. Fuel pressure at 40psi..
PUT THE WHOLE MAP in not just some of it.
Idle Map
Screen 1
30" ~ 1.38
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2
05" ~ 2.1
00" ~ 2.56
2-20psi ~ 4.95
Load Map
Screen 3
30" ~ 0.95
25" ~ 1.19
20" ~ 1.33
15" ~ 1.71
10" ~ 2.14
05" ~ 2.57
00" ~ 3.56
2psi ~ 2.9
4psi ~ 3.9
6psi ~ 4.7
8psi ~ 5.1
10psi ~ 5.6
14psi ~ 6.2
16psi ~ 6.8
18psi ~ 7.4
20psi ~ 8
RPMwot Map Screen 17
5000 ~ 05
5500 ~ 08
6000 ~ 08
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 11
7500 ~ 11
8000 ~ 11
9000 ~ 12
The rest are zero
RPMcrs Screen 18
1000 ~ -12
1500 ~ -11
2000 ~ -12
THe rest are zero
Pump Map
Screen 19
Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 00
Pump1Pulse ~ 04
Pump1Trig ~ 18
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05
Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05
PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00
Water Map
Screen 20
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-01 ~ 50
05 ~ 45
11 ~ 45
18 ~ 42
24 ~ 34
31 ~ 26
38 ~ 24
46 ~ 19
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 06
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Air_t Map
Screen 21
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Crank Map
Screen 22
-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
t*rpm
Screen 23
Idle ~ 10
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25
t*map Map
Screen 24
Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 02
8psi ~ -04
10psi ~ -06
14psi ~ -10
16psi ~ -12
18 psi ~ -16
20 psi ~ -20
t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.
t*gap
Screen 26
0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10
t*Inj Map
Screen 27
0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 150
4000 ~ 150
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270
t*wat Map Screen 28
ANd the rest are zero
Option Map
Screen 30
Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.25 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 1320
MAPstg ~ 02"
%stg ~ 50
Map isnt guranteed to work. Fuel pressure at 40psi..
PUT THE WHOLE MAP in not just some of it.
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Here's something I always wanted to know when people share Microtech maps...
Do you guys just type it all in, or is there a way you are actually getting this from the ECU?
I've created a program in VB to successfully dump a Microtech matrix table into a text file, allow editing of it, then send it back to the ECU. But I have not really played with it for several years. Is there a need for such a thing?
Do you guys just type it all in, or is there a way you are actually getting this from the ECU?
I've created a program in VB to successfully dump a Microtech matrix table into a text file, allow editing of it, then send it back to the ECU. But I have not really played with it for several years. Is there a need for such a thing?
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entered manually,, all timing numbers relative to 5ATDC being 0 in the microtech
( so map values of 30 are actually 25 BTDC )
and in 2.5 D handset mode,,, which if your really wanting to fine trim it can be converted to matrix with all maps same function ,, blah , blah
i find they go quite well ( for what they are ) just using the 2.5 D tune
( by utilizing the WOT and the cruise map adjusts )
and that matrix is only necessary for rather fickle engines,, and has its own bugs
( so map values of 30 are actually 25 BTDC )
and in 2.5 D handset mode,,, which if your really wanting to fine trim it can be converted to matrix with all maps same function ,, blah , blah
i find they go quite well ( for what they are ) just using the 2.5 D tune
( by utilizing the WOT and the cruise map adjusts )
and that matrix is only necessary for rather fickle engines,, and has its own bugs
#12
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err rich and low boost till you can get it on a dyno
heres my generic map for mild port with 1000 secs
has proven safe up to around 16 psi
staging value and mix trim may change by as much as 5 % depends on the primary injectors used
( some latency differences between high and low ohming injectors )
normal disclaimers apply,, be sure your fuel system and voltage systems is up to it
be sure you understand that the -5 mark of the s4/5 pulley is used as datum zero and all values are relative to -5 ATDC
( ie,, 30 set in T max equates to 25 BTDC )
as is this staging value at 78% is to suit s5 550 saturated style primary injectors
with peak hold early s4 injectors you may find staging smoother with values down towards 72 %
be aware staging % effects the fuel map PRESTAGING and so changing its value down will lean the point just prior to staging
has proven safe up to around 16 psi
staging value and mix trim may change by as much as 5 % depends on the primary injectors used
( some latency differences between high and low ohming injectors )
normal disclaimers apply,, be sure your fuel system and voltage systems is up to it
be sure you understand that the -5 mark of the s4/5 pulley is used as datum zero and all values are relative to -5 ATDC
( ie,, 30 set in T max equates to 25 BTDC )
as is this staging value at 78% is to suit s5 550 saturated style primary injectors
with peak hold early s4 injectors you may find staging smoother with values down towards 72 %
be aware staging % effects the fuel map PRESTAGING and so changing its value down will lean the point just prior to staging
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpstart
-5 ATDC datum mark is 0 static timing
timing max=30 ( 25 BTDC )
mixtrim=5%
staging 78%
staging thresholds 2 psi , 3000 rpm
RPM WOT =3 PSI
RPM CRUISE=-9"hg
idle maps
-25=1.19
-20=1.19
-15=1.48
-10=2.38
-5=3.33
0=3.50
loadmaps
-25=1.38
-20=1.38
-15=2.43
-10=2.90
-5=3.33
0=3.50
2=3.62
4=3.90
6=4.10
8=4.57
10=4.95
14=5.95
16=6.33
18=6.95
20=7.95
WOT
1k=5%
1.5k=10%
2K=5%
2.5k=5%
3k=5%
3.5k=5%
4k=5%
4.5k=5%
5k=5%
5.5k=5%
6k=5%
6.5k=5%
7k=5%
7.5k=5%
8k=5%
8.5k=5%
9k=5%
CRUISE
1.5k=-20%
2k=-25%
2.5k=-25%
3k=-25%
3.5k=-20%
4k=-15%
4.5k=-15%
5K=-10%
5.5k=0%
T map
idle=0
-25=7
-20=6
-15=5
-10=3
-5=2
0=1
2=0
4=-2
6=-4
8=-6
10=-8
14=-13 ( -12 )
16=-16 ( -14 )
18=-18 ( -16 )
20=-20 (-18 )
T RPM
idle =10
1000=10
1500=14
2000=20
2500=22
3000=24
3500=24
4000=24
4500=24
5000=24
5500=24
6000=26
7000=26
8000=26
9000=27
split
idle=15
1k=15
1.5K=15
2k=14
2.5k=12
3k=10
3.5k=8
Last edited by bumpstart; 03-18-10 at 09:48 AM.
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