Hey everyone,

Im not new to the fourms or the rx7 its been sitting for awhile and I forgot somethings about the microtech. My question I have an rx7 single turbo street port 1600cc 850cc injectors all the good stuff with a microtech lt10 and x4 setup. The car runs however it is very hard to start I think its not getting enough fuel and requires you to mash the gas in the begining. Also around 4000 rpm it backfires and continues to climb after that problably because of the wide injector gap. Im loooking for some help on how to adjust my microtech to fix these problems even just the starting issue first so I can get it to a tuner. Ill post my map below so you can view.

Joe

Idle Map
Screen 1

30" ~ 1.24
25" ~ 1.57
20" ~ 1.81
15" ~ 2.10
10" ~ 2.86
05" ~ 0.0
00" ~ 0.0
02" ~ 0.0
04" ~ 0.0
06" ~ 0.0
08" ~ 0.0
10" ~ 0.0
18" ~ 1.76
20" ~ 2.52

Load Map
Screen 3

30" ~ 1.29
25" ~ 1.43
20" ~ 1.73
15" ~ 2.52
10" ~ 3.14
05" ~ 3.10
00" ~ 3.43
2psi ~ 4.48
4psi ~ 5.67
6psi ~ 6.67
8psi ~ 7.48
10psi ~ 8.24
14psi ~ 8.81
16psi ~ 9.19
18psi ~ 9.48
20psi ~ 9.86

RPMwot Map Screen 17

5000 ~ 00
5500 ~ 00
6000 ~ 00
6500 ~ 00
7000 ~ 00
7500 ~ 00
8000 ~ 00
9000 ~ 00



RPMcrs Screen 18

1000 ~ -00
1500 ~ -00
2000 ~ -00



Pump Map
Screen 19

Pump1Amt ~ #1
Pump1Pulse ~ #2
Pump1Trig ~ #3
Pump1Stop ~ #4
Pump2Start ~ #5
Pump2Amt ~ #6
Pump2Time ~ #7
Pump2Trig ~ #8
Pump2Stop ~ #9
Pump1Adv ~ #10
Pump2Adv ~ #11
PumpDwell ~ #12
PumpTimers ~ #13
Pump1Sync ~ #14
PumpSpare ~ #15
PumpCold ~ #16



Water Map
Screen 20

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
(-)9 ~ 65
(-)1 ~ 63
05 ~ 59
11 ~ 52
18 ~ 44
24 ~ 34
31 ~ 28
38 ~ 23
46 ~ 18
60 ~ 14
68 ~ 09
82 ~ 05
99 ~ 02
124 ~ 01

Air_t Map
Screen 21

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 2
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Crank Map
Screen 22

(-)25 ~ 85
(-)17 ~ 80
(-)9 ~ 80
(-)1 ~ 75
5 ~ 70
11 ~ 65
18 ~ 60
24 ~ 49
31 ~ 38
38 ~ 30
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

t*rpm
Screen 23

500 ~ 13
1000 ~ 18
1500 ~ 23
2000 ~ 27
2500 ~ 29
3000 ~ 30
3500 ~ 30
4000 ~ 30
4500 ~ 30
5000 ~ 30
5500 ~ 30
6000 ~ 30
6500 ~ 30
7000 ~ 30
8000 ~ 30
9000 ~ 30


t*map Map
Screen 24

30 ~ 00
25 ~ 00
20 ~ (-01)
15 ~ (-02)
10 ~ (-04)
05 ~ (-07)
00 ~ (-09)
2psi ~ (-10)
4psi ~ (-11)
6psi ~ (-12)
8psi ~ (-13)
10psi ~ -(-13)
14psi ~ -(-13)
16psi ~ (-13)
18 psi ~ (-13)
20 psi ~ (-13)

t*air Screen 25

0

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10

t*Inj Map
Screen 27

0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 180
4000 ~ 180
4500 ~ 180
5000 ~ 180
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 270
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270

t*wat Map Screen 28

124 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
46 ~ 3
38 ~ 6
31 ~ 8
24 ~ 10
18 ~ 10
11 ~ 10
5 ~ 10
(-1) ~ 10
(-9) ~ 10
(-17) ~ 10
(-25) ~ 10

 

bump your idle maps in the 5"Hg - 2psi range, they should not be zeroed... also i would zero out the t*wat maps, you don't need additional advance for cold running.

for the staging hesitation you will need to mess with the staging % figure but that will affect all your pre stage point maps under the RPM point you have it set to stage at.

 

Thanks man ill give it a shot when the weather gets nicer here

 

here is my map, i pretty much have the same fuel setup as you do and have never had any hard start issues. My timing numbers are exact(stabbed at 0*) and my fuel pressure is 43psi open air
13b-re 9.4:1cr
large streetport
microtech lt10s
precision 6776e
800/1680
3.5" exh
fmic


Idle
Screen 1

30" Hg ... 1.14
25" Hg ... 1.05
20" Hg ... 1.14
15" Hg ... 1.14
10" Hg ... 1.24
05" Hg ... 1.67
00" Hg ... 2.00

Load
Screen 3

30" ... 1.00
25" ... 1.10
20" ... 1.14
15" ... 1.24
10" ... 2.19
05" ... 2.29
00" ... 2.52
2psi ... 2.71
4psi ... 3.05
6psi ... 3.57
8psi ... 4.19
10psi ... 4.62
14psi ... 5.19
16psi ... 5.48
18psi ... 5.81
20psi ... 6.38

RPMwot
Screen 17

0500 ... +00%
1000 ... +00%
1500 ... +04%
2000 ... +11%
2500 ... +13%
3000 ... +00%
3500 ... +00%
4000 ... -04%
4500 ... -05%
5000 ... -05%
5500 ... +00%
6000 ... +00%
6500 ... -01%
7000 ... -03%
8000 ... -03%
9000 ... -03%

RPMcrs
Screen 18

0500 ... +00%
1000 ... +00%
1500 ... -15%
2000 ... -23%
2500 ... -18%
3000 ... -18%
3500 ... -19%
4000 ... -15%
4500 ... -03%
5000 ... +00%
5500 ... +00%
6000 ... +00%
6500 ... +00%
7000 ... +00%
7500 ... +00%
8000 ... +00%
9000 ... +00%

Pump
Screen 19

Pump1 Amt ... +11%
Pump1pulse ... +2%
Pump1Trig ... +14%
Pump1Stop ... 00"Hg
Pump2Start ...2000
Pump2Amt ... +25%
Pump2Time ... +10
Pump2Trig ... +16
Pump2Stop ... 00"Hg
Pump1ADV ... +5
Pump2ADV ... +5
Pump Dwell ... 3.00
Pump Timers ... NO
Pump1 Sync ... NO
Pump Spare ... +00%

Water
Screen 20

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +08%
60 C ... +19%
46 C ... +25%
38 C ... +30%
31 C ... +36%
24 C ... +41%
18 C ... +47%
11 C ... +51%
5 C ... +54%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

Air_t
Screen 21

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +04%
60 C ... +03%
46 C ... +04%
38 C ... +00%
31 C ... +00%
24 C ... +00%
18 C ... +00%
11 C ... +00%
5 C ... +00%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

Crank
Screen 22

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +05%
60 C ... +15%
46 C ... +20%
38 C ... +26%
31 C ... +31%
24 C ... +41%
18 C ... +50%
11 C ... +57%
5 C ... +62%
-1 C ... +67%
-9 C ... +72%
-17 C ... +72%
-25 C ... 72%

t* rpm
Screen 23

Idle ... +11
1000 ... +11
1500 ... +15
2000 ... +20
2500 ... +20
3000 ... +20
3500 ... +20
4000 ... +20
4500 ... +20
5000 ... +20
5500 ... +20
6000 ... +20
6500 ... +20
7000 ... +20
8000 ... +20
9000 ... +20

t*map
Screen 24

20 psi ... -10
18 psi ... -08
16 psi ... -07
14 psi ... -05
10 psi ... -05
8 psi ... -05
6 psi ... -04
4 psi ... -02
2 psi ... +00
00"Hg ... +05
05"Hg ... +05
10"Hg ... +07
15"Hg ... +07
20"Hg ... +07
25"Hg ... +05
30"Hg ... +05

t*air
Screen 25

124 C ... +00%
99 C ... +00%
82 C ... +00%
68 C ... +00%
60 C ... +00%
46 C ... +00%
38 C ... +00%
31 C ... +00%
24 C ... +00%
18 C ... +00%
11 C ... +00%
5 C ... +00%
-1 C ... +00%
-9 C ... +00%
-17 C ... +00%
-25 C ... +00%

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ... +15
1000 ... +15
1500 ... +15
2000 ... +15
2500 ... +15
3000 ... +15
3500 ... +15
4000 ... +15
4500 ... +15
5000 ... +15
5500 ... +15
6000 ... +15
6500 ... +15
7000 ... +15
8000 ... +15
9000 ... +15

t*Inj
Screen 27

0500 ... 120
1000 ... 150
1500 ... 150
2000 ... 150
2500 ... 150
3000 ... 150
3500 ... 180
4000 ... 180
4500 ... 210
5000 ... 210
5500 ... 210
6000 ... 240
6500 ... 240
7000 ... 270
8000 ... 270
9000 ... 270

t* wat
Screen 28

124 C ... +00
99 C ... +00
82 C ... +00
68 C ... +00
60 C ... +00
46 C ... +00
38 C ... +00
31 C ... +00
24 C ... +00
18 C ... +00
11 C ... +00
5 C ... +00
-1 C ... +00
-9 C ... +00
-17 C ... +00
-25 C ... +00

Option
Screen 30

Opt MIXtrm +00%
Opt TPScal +27%
Opt TIMtrm +00%
Opt Static +00%
Opt TIMmax +27
Opt RPMwot 04"Hg
Opt RPMcrs 17"Hg
Opt AF_ste +08%
Opt REVlim OFF
Opt REVcut OFF
Opt BstCUT 24psi
Opt REVstg 1750
Opt MAPstg 04"Hg
Opt %stg +85%
Opt Decel OFF
Opt Dwell 5.00

Screen 31

Config +04 Cyl/R
Firing SEQUENTIAL
LOAD = MAP Sensor
DWELL = Time base
Input Trig +POS
Spark Trig -NEG
Timing check OFF
Rpm_ON 2500 Log
Map_ON 02psi Log
Sample +00 Log
Spare +00 Log
SHIFT 9750 Dash
WATER 92 C Dash
Air_T 40 C Dash
BOOST 17psi Dash

 

yea looks as if you may be flooding it. try loading my map on there and seeing if that helps any. if not you can always type yours back in

 

okay so the car runs and starts great now that i tuned it i keep gettin a tps cal at idol and a rpmcrs when throttle is given what do them mean?

 

means your TPScal % is under the target of 0. raise the figure until the asterisk appears next to the 0% throttle figure, engine must be warm. you may get that error if the car is cold, the mazda TPS are rather crappy and even the microtech can't cure the range it soaks up from cold to warm.

 

Cars breaking up when u punch it just sittin in neutral what map needs adjustment

 

try adding 5% to the pump1amt and pump2amt

 

Cars running much better with your map however its breaking up popping anywere from 2500 to 4000 with light and steady gas but if u punch it it will go eventually. Any suggestions on what to alter is it a pump map issue? or rmpcrs/wot map issue?*

 

How is your Cas stabbed? did you stab it like factory? My map is set up for true timing( stabbed Cas at 0* rather than -5* like factory)If yours isn't then so the timing will be terribly off. Also do you have a wideband?

 

Need a new wideband any suggestions?

 

How do you reset your cas to 0 on a 3rd gen i know how to do timming

 

What does it say for your static timing on the micro? It'll be under the timing lock function

 

10

 

Best info for setting the timing on a rew. Really need to take it to a tuner though and have it professionally tuned. Running it the way it is now you re liable to go bang.

 

Sounds good thanks man i think im just gonna bring it to advanced rotary in nj by me judge ito runs it great place i heard

 

Most def man!!!

 

Nice thread helped me understand a few things.

 

Thanks again Rxpeed7 for posting you map and for all the help. The My friends car would not idle or rev up at all before you settings. Now it holds idle and runs good enough until we take it to Orlando to be tuned.


Ps: That is not a 13b-re motor. It's just a 13b-re UIM with an adaptor to a T2 LIM.

Quick vids I took today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDRU5...ature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrso...ature=youtu.be