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Old 08-23-07, 04:11 PM
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$100 To anyone who can help get this car to run

TII S4 in a 85 FB, Microtech LT8. Microtech came out of a running car. Have spark, have compression (excellent compression at that) have fuel, moved the CAS all over. It chugs slightly someimtes.

What I'm looking for is someone with a running TII to come down to our shop in Hamilton so we can copy your map. 100 bucks if it gets the car running. More maybe if you aren't very local.
Old 08-23-07, 04:17 PM
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Oh and plus beer and food when you are here. Or if you need anything else we can help you build something for the car or something out of wood. We have a metal fabricator guy that fabricates go fast parts and we also have a full Wood/cabinetry shop. Need to get laid? maybe we could help with that too? We know lots of girls lol jk
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This Is for a s5 TII stock 550cc FI's. Mods listed at the time of purchase (If this matters) are: big streetport, FMIC, full 3" ss Exhaust no cat, Walbro.

Idle Map
Screen 1

30" ~ 1.33
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.93
15" ~ 2.38
10" ~ 2.48
05" ~ 3.48
00" ~ 4.0
2-20psi ~ 4.95

Load Map
Screen 3

30" ~ 1.76
25" ~ 1.86
20" ~ 1.95
15" ~ 2.24
10" ~ 2.90
05" ~ 3.90
00" ~ 4.81
2psi ~ 5.62
4psi ~ 6.10
6psi ~ 7.14
8psi ~ 7.86
10psi ~ 8.48
12psi ~ ???
14psi ~ 8.71
16psi ~ 9.00
18psi ~ 9.48
20psi ~ 10.00

RPMwot Map Screen 17 &
RPMcrs Screen 18 expressed as a percentage with all values set at zero.

Pump Map
Screen 19

Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 10
Pump1Pulse ~ 02
Pump1Trig ~ 14
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05

Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05

PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00

Water Map
Screen 20

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-1 ~ 55
5 ~ 50
11 ~ 50
18 ~ 45
24 ~ 35
31 ~ 30
38 ~ 20
46 ~ 15
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 8
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Air_t Map
Screen 21

-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

Crank Map
Screen 22

-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0

t*rpm
Screen 23

Idle ~ 00
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25

t*map Map
Screen 24

Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 00
8psi ~ -02
10psi ~ -03
12psi ~ ???
14psi ~ -04
16psi ~ -05
18 psi ~ -06
20 psi ~ -06

t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.

t*gap
Screen 26

0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10

t*Inj Map
Screen 27

0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 180
4000 ~ 180
4500 ~ 210
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270

t*wat Map Screen 28
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.

Option Map
Screen 30

Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.00 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 3000
MAPstg ~ 05"
%stg ~ 50

I hope this helps
Old 08-23-07, 06:21 PM
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i got this from the sticky at the top of the list in the microtech section..check it out
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Copy the above map.

Line up the front mark on the pulley. Their are two marks. Line up the one that sits on the oil filter side of the engine to the pin on the front cover.
Remove the CAS.

Take the cap of it.

Their are two arrow pointers inside it(dont look too hard they are right infront of you, they point opposite of each other).

When you stick the CAS in these two pointers must be facing east west, with the east pointer alittle higher. These is the correct tooth for the CAS to be in.

Give that a go.
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Still doesn't run. It might be another setting in the ECU that was fiddled with when we tried to get it started the first time with a blown front rotor (front rotor? strange I know...)

We can even come out somewhere close and hook our dongle thingy to save your working map onto.
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where r u located?
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fouled plugs?
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
where r u located?
What he said.
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Hamilton Ontario. We tried two sets of plugs now. First ones were brand new and we thought maybe they got oiled from when we built the motor. So we changed them with a set from a stock turbo that runs. No change.
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Thought maybe you were in Hamilton, OH which is close.

Anyway, you have spark and compression? Do you have fuel pressure? Are the injectors firing when the engine is cranking? Easy way to tell is to either pull out the CAS or plug in a spare and spin it over by hand. Unplug the fuel pump before doing this or you'll flood the engine terribly. Without the noise of the engine cranking you should be able to hear the injectors and the ignition firing. If they are firing then you have a programming issue. If they're not you either have a programming, ECU hardware, or under hood issue.

Regardless of whether the map you load is dead on right you should be able to get the car to fire. There are tons of MT "maps" like the one posted above floating around this site and nopistons. Anything close should get you running.

Even if the timing is off by several degrees it should at least try to run. Have you tried to zero the timing while cranking it to see if it's even close? That should be the first thing you do anyway. The MT locks at TDC so you will have to make a mark on the pulley. The two marks that are on there already are 5 ATDC and 15 ATDC.
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sounds like what my car did when I wired the fuel pump backwards.
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My buddy just called me, he got the car running. He fiddled with it all day long I guess. He remembered a base map he saved the values for when he got the microtech a few years ago that was on his OLD *** computer. He said the map was vastly different than the one you guys gave me. An old version of the LT8?

Thanks for all the help guys. That car is leaving tomorrow, time to start tearing down the cosmo halfcut that came in last week... ugh
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