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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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How can I have fuel, spark, and timing correct and the car not run?

I have cranking pulsewidths, (7.8). I checked for leading spark with a timing light, both good. CAS is stabbed correctly.

I'm stuck.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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You may be flooded. Pull your leading plugs and move your crank pulley by hand in the reverse direction. Gas will run out if you are flooded. Continue moving the pulley by hand in the reverse direction until gas ceases to run out. Then pull your fuel pump power or injector fuses (depending on how you wired up your MS) and crank your engine over with the starter a few times until the puffs coming out of the plug holes are dry.

Then put everything back together.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Haha... no it's not flooded.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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We're going to need more info than that... datalogs?
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Your cranking pulswidths are 7.8? This seems a little low. What temperatures are you trying to start it in? I find that my setup requires a lot of fuel to start. I'm using 14.0ms pulswidths at 60 degrees farenheight, and I have yet to flood the car.

Maybe try to work your cranking pulswidth up a little and see if it helps.

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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check if u are actually geting the fuel by pulling a spakplug out and looking to see if fuel mist comes out, also like this guys said try setting your cranking pulse width to 12.0
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Having cranking pulsewidths would mean that the injectors are opening right? Or is there a way that it would show pulsewidths without the injectors actually opening? I know that the fuel pump is working, I and it is pressurizing the lines. I don't have a gague, but fuel sprays out of the line when you take one off. The car ran prior to MS and I haven't changed anything in the fuel system.

I'm going to crank up the pulsewidths and I'll report my findings.

Oh, its about 75-80F outside.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by White87FC
Having cranking pulsewidths would mean that the injectors are opening right? Or is there a way that it would show pulsewidths without the injectors actually opening? I know that the fuel pump is working, I and it is pressurizing the lines. I don't have a gague, but fuel sprays out of the line when you take one off. The car ran prior to MS and I haven't changed anything in the fuel system.

I'm going to crank up the pulsewidths and I'll report my findings.

Oh, its about 75-80F outside.
It's possible to show pulse width's and not have the injectors open if you don't have them wired up properly or something. It sounds like your just not injecting enough fuel though... Anyone else have input here?

12ms sounds like a reasonable pulse width at 80F(assuming stock injectors), I'm using 12.5ms at 80F right now.

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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Well, I just drove back up to OH tonight and the FC is in TN. So it'll be a few weeks until I get another chance to mess with it. As best as I could figure is that I do have something wired up incorrectly, (wouldn't be the first time). I just ran out of time this weekend. I've gotta be at work in 7hrs, so goodnite all.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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lol, this beats me aswell. i decided to put ,my ms on the backburner.
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