So whats the deal with the newer STI's? Do their top end suck?

 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Hmm, I thougnht there were a few over here... Not a surprise though. The USDM doens't get any of the neat stuff that othre countries get, like the Skyline, and STi spec C, and the Forester STi.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Nor did we get the FTO...i love the way those cars look.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FD Rey
those cars are pretty heavy and don't have the greatest top end. They're not geared for "highway" runs. It's a rally car for crying out loud! Catch a nicely moded one though, and it WILL give you a run for your money.


/\ for only a couple of seconds. then youll start pulling on there *** (modded or not)



Originally Posted by ulost2my7
They have close gear ratios i assume and they are 6spd so to get from 60-120, he must be shifting like 3 times between those. And isnt their top speed like 135 from factory?

car and driver topped the lancer 7 at 153mph saying it was gear limited



the best 4wd was the celica gt-four (ST-205)

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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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IX's are drag limited at around 165mph. Stupid brick shape.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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They need to start making the GTFour again. I really want one, but I also don't want one that's that old. =\
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 21K95RX7
just because he was shooting flames out the rear doesnt mean it had any power mods...i put a turboxs RFL bov on my sti and didnt put any shims to seat the spring and it was causing it to dump raw fuel into the exhaust, and lets just say robin williams wouldnt want to stand behind my car
That's the one of the stupidiest mods ever. Make everyone think that you are modded while in fact you are just stock. I actually regret the gauges on my pillar because other than that, my car looks stock. Actually I wish that it was quieter (racing beat cat-back and resonated MP) so that way people wouldn't even know what hit them.

By the way, the guy was lowered, wingless, with rims, and an aftermarket catback. That's what cought my eye in the first place.
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chi_San
They need to start making the GTFour again. I really want one, but I also don't want one that's that old. =\

do what im about to do after my fd project

swap a small rotary block with a wrx 4wd transmission into a 200-2002 celica gts
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by darkphantom
do what im about to do after my fd project

swap a small rotary block with a wrx 4wd transmission into a 200-2002 celica gts
Good luck with that. You're either going to pay a huge(really huge) sum of cash for that, or you're just going to give up. Just swapping in a 3sgte without the AWD costs $10k+. It might be better for you to start with the 4th or 5th gen All Trac. The 7th gens really have no room for swaps aside from swapping a GTS engine into a GT.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by darkphantom
do what im about to do after my fd project

swap a small rotary block with a wrx 4wd transmission into a 200-2002 celica gts
I was thinking about putting an STi gearbox in a FC or FB, but that would be just crazy amounts of work. It would be really awesome, having a 600-700 awhp car that weighs 2,500 lbs though.

If anything, I'm tempted to keep my Subie and put an FC RWD gearbox in it. Save some weight, and have a better top end. :p But I like hauling butt on logging roads too much to give up AWD (there's a kit that can be used to convert from AWD to RWD in a matter of hours without dropping the entire tranny, but it's a PITA to install in the first place). Not to mention, I'd have to find a new rear end if I went RWD. :p The stock FC gear ratios would be a little... Wrong for a H4 NA car, I think a little short (FC redlines at 9k, right? Though there is a valvetrain upgrade that lets the Subies with H4's run 11k rpms reliably, just a little expensive).

Sorry, my bi-polar is kicking into manic, I just can't stop. :o
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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stupidiest
is that a word? people put mods on their car for whatever reason. i put mine because i wanted to intimidate other cars ie; the civics, integras, and mustangs. but i wasn't stock either. but yea i agree with some other people on this thread evo's and sti's are probably some of the best all around cars you can get. you can go to any type of track event drag, roadcourse, auto-x and be very competative and dominate in the rally portions. lets see the seven do that hahaha. i love my FD but my sti still has my heart just because i could put that thing through the ringer and still feel bullet proof, the FD well you guys know its a princess.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:24 AM
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try testing your top end against the sti's in muddy corners
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by blueskaterboy
try testing your top end against the sti's in muddy corners
Unless you have a serious suspension setup just for rally, I'd actually strongly suggest you not try this. Don't want to see any stories about an FD that spun out trying to race an STi offroad.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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Reno: [quote]Nor did we get the FTO...i love the way those cars look.[?quote]
Damn straight.

dark: I was actually hoping to find that car, when I was about to buy a Celica. Sadly enough, we got stuck with the FWD cars...yay.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 21K95RX7
is that a word? people put mods on their car for whatever reason. i put mine because i wanted to intimidate other cars ie; the civics, integras, and mustangs. but i wasn't stock either. but yea i agree with some other people on this thread evo's and sti's are probably some of the best all around cars you can get. you can go to any type of track event drag, roadcourse, auto-x and be very competative and dominate in the rally portions. lets see the seven do that hahaha. i love my FD but my sti still has my heart just because i could put that thing through the ringer and still feel bullet proof, the FD well you guys know its a princess.

yes it's a word:

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I still stand by my statement of it being a stupid *** mod with no real power added as all it does is make people *think* that you are fast. And as far as owning an STi, evo becuase it's one of the best all around cars... can't do it. I just can't overcome the ugly factor. sorry
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by montego
I just can't overcome the ugly factor. sorry
But you love your bros SRT4?
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
But you love your bros SRT4?


1) I don't have a brother
2) I don't like SRT-4's either
3) Even if I did like the way they look, it would a matter of taste. Which is subjective not objective.

Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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LOL. Wrong person. I got you confused with Rastaraja.
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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I need an FD...
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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montego i agree the bov has kinda turned into a riceboy mod since the intro of the srt-4
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Simple answer: cause it's AWD. Putting down power to the ground AWD is superior,though.
Old Apr 26, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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AWD = superior traction.

AWD = More driveline loss due to friction in the 3 diffs that the tranny happens to have.

AWD = More weight.

AWD = More weight up front, due to the location of the gearbox and the front components of the tranny.

There's video up on Streetfire of an AWD Skyline lighting up all 4, then topping out at 205 mph. It took it roughly 23 seconds to go from a stop to 205 mph. That's less time than it takes my current AWD Subaru to go from a stop to 120 mph.
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Well that was a highly modded Skyline....I think it was the Blitz skyline.....so you cant compare....lol so dont feel bad
Old Apr 29, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Not to mention that Skylines are only AWD when the rear wheels slip. Otherwise they are fully RWD. AWD, but only when traction is needed. Badass cars...



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