socc924

Im just trying to talk about this for fun so I dont want any flame wars. I personally own a 86.5 supra. My older brother owns a 300zx and Im trying to get my little brother an 86 rx-7. Through my personal experiece I would say the supra is the fastest or most powerful, the 300zx as the most styled, and the rx-7 is the best handleing even though I havent driven one yet. I just wanna hear some opinions of these 80's sports cars. And if anyone else can add to the pros and cons of these cars please add.

bigdv519

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Put an 89 TII in that bunch instead of the NA 86.

socc924

well to compare them, Ill just remember when my car was NA. Cause the 300zx is NA too. I understand you gotta compare them as all NA's or all turbo's

SmogSUX

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80s tii > 80s supra turbo ...speed, handling, style you name it end of topic
oh and the z doesnt compare to either...heavy, slow, etc. I have driven a turbo z and it wasn't all that fast and didnt handle anywhere near the rx7. I raced a few supras sotck for stock and tii > supra

socc924

SmogSUX - I understand style is completely an opinion. But you think that stock for stock the TII is faster then the mkiii supra turbo? And for mod to mod you think that the TII is faster? Im not trying to say your wrong. I just know how much potential a supra has and I dont realy know much about the rx-7.

SmogSUX

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sotck for stock the tii is faster. i dont know about modding though since i raced a stock supra turbo in a stock tii. Again though the Z isn't anywhere near competition level.

socc924

yea... I knew that the 300zx was slowest, but they have a nice body style I think. I would have to say that from what I have heard the TII and turbo supra are pretty close stock and the TII might have a slight edge. I just wish the supra was as light as the rx-7.

Impreza2RX7

I've driven a stock MKIII Supra with a 3" exhaust and boost controller as the only mods, and it was slower than my TII was with just an intake..

bigdv519

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I remeber the day I smoked a 95 300zx NA in my buddies 88 RX-7 vert. No chance for the 300zx.

This below is jsut one aspect of the converstaion, straight line performance. Year ranges from 86-91.

Year Car 60mph 1/4 mile

1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 8.5 16.5
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
1988 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 9.7 17.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.5 16.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.7 15.1
1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.6 16.7
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
1991 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 8.8 16.7
1991 Mazda RX-7 Infini IV 7.0 14.9

1985 Nissan 300ZX 8.2 16.4
1985 Nissan 300ZX Turbo (auto) 7.4 15.7
1987 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 8.8 16.5
1989 Nissan 300ZX 7.1 15.5
1990 Nissan 300ZX 7.1 15.5
1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 6.5 15.0
1990 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo 5.6 14.1
1991 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 7.5 15.9
1991 Nissan 300ZX Turbo(auto) 7.0 15.4

1986 Toyota Supra 7.0 15.4
1988 Toyota Supra 7.9 16.0
1989 Toyota Supra Turbo 6.6 15.2
1991 Toyota Supra Turbo 7.1 15.6

HoangRx-7

my supra is way faster than my turbo II, but then again i have a 2.5 twin turbo in it . I love the 7's handling but the supra is alot more comfortable, IMO

socc924

well.. now that I know a stock rx-7 is actually faster, lets just say that the rx-7 is a lighter, more aggile car while the supra is a torquey heavyier car. Honestly I think that a race between the 2 would be determined by the driver. honestly I just like the fact that the 3 of these car are under rated as 80s to early 90s cars. people today are so wound up in vtech and awd that its nice to have a older car that is tried and true. I just never realy thought of the rx-7 as a peformance oreintated car. I was wrong and Im very intrested in them

RETed

300Z?
Z32 or Z31?
Both are HEAVY.
Z31 is too damn slow.
Z32 NA is too damn slow.
Z32 TT is okay, but it's still heavy.

Supra?
MA70 or JZA70?
Both are heavy.
NA's are too slow.
Turbos are slightly faster but still heavy.

300Z versus Supra is a good comparison.
The FC is NOT in the same category.
Although an FC NA would run comparable drag times, the FC would runs rings around both in the turns with a competent driver.

FC turbo would just outclass both the Z32 and JZA70 even with turbos.


-Ted

SmogSUX

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^ spoken like a true rotary owner

socc924

Is there anybody around CT or Philly area that would like to back up these claims? I only have intake, exhaust and MBC. I would be very intrested to see how a simillarly modified TII would compare to my supra. Just as one car enthusiest to another and as fun.

SmogSUX

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even if i did live there....my tii is heavily modded now lol....and the near blown turbo is hella tyte..seriously i think my car would run 15s right now

socc924

Anyone from either PA or CT would be cool. Id just like to meet up and check out a rx-7.

SmogSUX

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wait...so you dont have one. think your supra is faster . and post on our forum.

socc924

No... I found a 86 NA that I am trying to buy for my little brother. I found this forums to learn about the car because I would be working on it for him. I dont have a rx-7 but I honestly never thought of them as fast cars, I just thought they were a little underpowered. My reason for posting this would be to figure out the diff. between the supra rx-7 and 300zx. When you guys said that the rx-7 is in a different class then the mkiii supra I just kinda wanted to see proof and talk to a person in real life about these car. Im not in any way saying my car is superior, just intrested i guess

SmogSUX

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we don't lie. rx7 is faster. take our words for it.

eriksseven

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Obviously there's going to be a little bias depending on who your talking to...

The TRUTH is:

Rx7's > all

Cosmo_TT

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fool your car is much is easily a high 13 second car you just need to practice at the track 15's haha you have to be crazy

hondasuck

I've driven both cars the 88 N/A Supra and the 86 Turbo 300zx. to me i think we all know they out TQ a n/a rx7 easy but they felt slow. my rx7 was more responsive took off quicker and can out handle both. but im not a stock rx7

sub9lulu

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/thread

cwsttu

buy that n/a and put a stock s5 turbo on it.... that car will run 12's if done and tuned right

Net Seven

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Thats wrong, 89 TII and 90TII are both 6.3 and 14.9... No way in hell is s4 TII faster than an 89 s5 TII.