Introduce yourself New members post about yourself here...

New to Rotaries (VW with rotary inside)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-11-09, 09:09 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Stromaluski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
SC New to Rotaries (VW with rotary inside)

I'm Andrew, I've been into VW's and cars in general for years, but never knew much about rotary engines. I recently picked up a '66 bug that has had a 13b stuffed in it years back, though; so here I am. It hasn't been driven in nearly 10 years, but we have had it running long enough to know that the carb needs replacing. So I'm going to do that and give it a full tune up at the same time. The first question I have is what the hell do I have? The bug I know like the back of my hand; but the 13b, I don't have the first clue about... I've been doing a bunch of reading up on Rotaries, but I can't seem to find what year would this have come out of?









Old 02-11-09, 11:00 PM
  #2  
Stigulus Moderatorai

iTrader: (3)
 
Sgt Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,105
Received 24 Likes on 17 Posts
Thats really pretty neat. I hope you are premixing two stroke oil with your fuel though, as it does not look as though there is any operating oil metering pump.
Old 02-11-09, 11:31 PM
  #3  
Moderator

iTrader: (2)
 
rxtasy3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Spartanburg, SC
Posts: 9,328
Likes: 0
Received 258 Likes on 239 Posts
i would guess 76-78 yr model engine.
Old 02-12-09, 06:23 AM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Stromaluski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sgt Fox
Thats really pretty neat. I hope you are premixing two stroke oil with your fuel though, as it does not look as though there is any operating oil metering pump.
Yep, it is running pre-mix only. That's one thing that the guy I bought the car from did tell me about before he sold it to me.

Originally Posted by rxtasy3
i would guess 76-78 yr model engine.
When did they start making the 13b? I thought I read that '84 was the first year for it?
Old 02-12-09, 01:50 PM
  #5  
Newbie
 
96slo46's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Considered doing this myself. Very nice.
Old 02-12-09, 06:27 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
 
Robert-Mercer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Mercer PA
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That is pretty slick
Old 02-13-09, 11:17 AM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
slideways14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: phila
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
bugs with rotors are nasty
Old 02-14-09, 02:01 AM
  #8  
Junior Member

 
poopyii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
nice bug you got
Old 02-14-09, 03:09 AM
  #9  
Turbo on the brain...

iTrader: (6)
 
Grappler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
First civics and VW bugs boy what next ? I must say though that looks really cool, welcome.
Old 02-14-09, 08:17 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
replica7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: oshawa
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
cool car!
Old 02-15-09, 11:11 AM
  #11  
Where does this bolt go?

iTrader: (8)
 
FixableUnknown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: TN
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TN

Wow that brings back memories. I had a 13b in a 1973 chop top bug. You have a potential street monster. The engine is an old 4 port 13b. The intake is set up for a webber 48ida. The adapter plate to mate the engine to the tranny is probably made by Kennedy engineering along with the special flywheel. The starter should be from a 6 volt bug because the 12 volt wont spin the engine fast enough. Cooling was the big problem with mine, which I eventually solved by running copper tubing through the heater ducts on the side of the floor pans. I ran a chevy radiator to the front of the car and made cooling ducts through the fiberglass front end. Good luck with the car. If I can be of any help let me know.
Old 02-15-09, 11:20 AM
  #12  
Where does this bolt go?

iTrader: (8)
 
FixableUnknown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: TN
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TN

I forgot to add about the carburetor. If it is a Webber 48ida you might want to try to rebuild it as they are very expensive carbs. Some of the vw conversions ran a custom Webber 48 that was bored to a 51mm, you may have that carb. And I agree about the oil premix, you will definitely have to add oil to your gas tank.
Old 02-15-09, 11:21 AM
  #13  
Junior Member

iTrader: (34)
 
dregg100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
im a local rotorhead if you need someone to come take a look at it. send me a pm
Old 02-15-09, 07:34 PM
  #14  
Meat Popsicle.

 
wmelon137's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've been working on a very similar swap myself. I'd love to see some pictures of how your exhaust is routed.
Old 02-15-09, 08:55 PM
  #15  
needs a cheaper hobby

iTrader: (4)
 
red87tll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Morgantown WV
Posts: 781
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
that the motor is a 13b from what looks to be a s4 rx-7 that has been converted to carberation and a 12a dizzy.. idk just what it looks to me...
Old 02-15-09, 11:34 PM
  #16  
Can Post Only in New Member Section
 
jjolly3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That is a very cool application. Keep us posted on your progress with the car.
Old 02-16-09, 05:46 PM
  #17  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
SethRogen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: tacoma
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
very nice vw, im a watercooled guy myself (mk2)
and have owned 9 first gens in my short driving career.
Old 02-17-09, 09:42 AM
  #18  
Junior Member
 
13bna83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: australia
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hey mate, looks to be an RX4 type block.
Old 02-18-09, 07:41 AM
  #19  
Full Member

iTrader: (1)
 
bo0557's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Here is a friends ROTORBUG in the UK - running a 13b bridge port, 48 IDA webber and close ratio VW box..

http://www.exile-rotorsport.com/viewtopic.php?t=315
Old 02-18-09, 10:31 AM
  #20  
alerx7
 
alerx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: bronx, ny
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thats freakin awesome,, bugged out rotor
Old 02-18-09, 10:47 AM
  #21  
Moderator

iTrader: (2)
 
rxtasy3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Spartanburg, SC
Posts: 9,328
Likes: 0
Received 258 Likes on 239 Posts
Originally Posted by red87tll
that the motor is a 13b from what looks to be a s4 rx-7 that has been converted to carberation and a 12a dizzy.. idk just what it looks to me...
it's a 4 port 13b. puts it in the 74-78 yrs. the lettering puts it 76-78 repu or cosmo. the rx4 13b 74-75 had "MAZDA" in larger letters and framed.
Old 02-18-09, 10:49 AM
  #22  
Senior Member

iTrader: (6)
 
herrafass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Northern California
Posts: 310
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fixableunknown is right, 4 port 13b. 84 was the first year for a 13b in an rx"7", though not the first for 13b use in a mazda.
Nice ride. My wife has been talking about building one. I say only if she goes with a big single turbo.
Old 02-18-09, 11:24 AM
  #23  
arextu

 
nanaimorotard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: nanaimo b.c.
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
13b came out...

Originally Posted by Stromaluski
Yep, it is running pre-mix only. That's one thing that the guy I bought the car from did tell me about before he sold it to me.



When did they start making the 13b? I thought I read that '84 was the first year for it?

Im pretty sure it the 13b came out with the rx3. she is a chunky rx2 <3
Old 02-18-09, 08:44 PM
  #24  
Where does this bolt go?

iTrader: (8)
 
FixableUnknown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: TN
Posts: 315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That looks like a Racing Beat manifold. We tried a blow through turbo setup with one of those. It worked but hard to tune and even harder on the vw tranny.
Old 02-23-09, 09:58 PM
  #25  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Stromaluski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Took me a bit to get back to this, sorry about that. I had a really busy week last week. The manifold is an IDA manifold. It actually had a 48 IDM (predecessor to the IDA) on it when I bought it that I just sold on eBay. I'm going to buy a new IDA to go on it to replace the IDM. As for the engine, it's not looking too good at the moment... I posted this thread about it as I started doing a little bit of maintenance.

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/rusty-coolant-passages-13b-820769/

Originally Posted by SethRogen
very nice vw, im a watercooled guy myself (mk2)
and have owned 9 first gens in my short driving career.
I'm actually on my 3rd mk2 right now as well. I've got a vr6 swapped '90 Jetta Coupe as my daily driver.


Quick Reply: New to Rotaries (VW with rotary inside)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:39 AM.