Integrale-Guy

Hi,
I've got a pair of black RZ Recaros that are going into my Integrale, but one of them needs a repair and i thought this would be the best place to come for advice. I won't bother posting a pic of the good one (i'm sure you boys know what they look like!), so here's a pic of the "bad" one-

Here's the back (just to show off )



Here's the front, see the worn patch on the left?



This material is fire resistant stuff right? Has anyone ever been able to get hold of the right material to repair them?
Thanks for any help,
Guy

P.s. I won't tell you how much (?) i paid for them just yet....

RX7 RAGE

iTrader: (22)

mmmmm...recaro rz

RE-Amemiya

Mmm, i really don't notice anything....other than a REALLY nice seat!

Integrale-Guy

^BUMP^

No idea's anyone? Ok this might get some attention, I bought these seats about a year ago from a workmate who was in need of some cash, apparently he bought them from someone who'd got them out of a "drift spec" MR2 which had been imported and was being broken for spares.
I paid £300 ($600) for the pair. But get this, he only paid £200 ($400) for them! Crazy thing is he knew they were worth a LOT of money, but he needed the cash FAST and didn't mind letting them go cheap and seeing them go into a worthy vehicle. Needless to say, he is a very good friend.......
So back to the point, does anyone know where i can get some black flame resistant material?
Cheers,
Guy

NiM0r

iTrader: (4)

ok uh first off., wtf is a " Integrale " ? is that another UK slang for integra?

also., to be honest, we dont care how much you paid for them.


but logic tells me to call recaro and find out the repair process,

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Integrale-Guy, yes the original material is fire-retardant. And yes the bolsters can be repaired...but I'd have to have the seat here to do it properly for you.

Thanks,
~Ramy
FDNewbie Imports

PS: I've sold & repaired more of these than pretty much anyone...so rest assured

Speedworks

I assume it's a Lancia Delta Integrale

http://www.kollevold.no/images/compo...o%20Lancia.jpg

http://classic2.alfisti.net/media/mo...c/delta_04.jpg

A 90'ties Euro rally car.

Integrale-Guy

I don't suppose you'd be able to do it with just the headrest/bolster section would you? I don't really fancy shipping the whole seat to the states to be honest!

Yesir, it is indeed a Lancia Delta Integrale. I'm lucky enough to own the wider Evolution model in the best colour going!



With my brother's GT4, Sega rally anyone?


Aaaaanyway...... you've gotta be a hands-on person to own one but the effort is well worth it. Just like your RX's they're a little temperamental but something a little different, which to me is the most rewarding feature. The fact that they're both fast as f&$% is a nice bonus too!
Even though these buckets aren't in an RX anymore, i'd like to think they'll sit at home in a car which was Recaro fitted anyway. Rest assured though, they'll be looked after and bolted down with security bolts!
Thanks for the ideas guys, lets hope FDNewbie can help me restore them to their former glory!
Guy

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

How? Obtaining the material is the easy part; the hard part is actually performing the repair on the seat. That would require the seat be present...

Integrale-Guy

Can you not just unstitch the damaged bolster pannel and use it as a template for the new one? The material has a certain amount of stretch to it so i'm sure it would pull to shape if the repair panel wasn't quite the right size. It certainly gets pulled tight with that wire holding it all on. It doesn't have to be 100% perfect because now they're going into a left hooker, that seat is on the passenger side.
Do you think that is possible to do?
Cheers,
Guy

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Guy,

Yea I imagine that's doable, but I'd only be responsible for the material, and not the final result (post-install), as that's where the skill comes in...

~Ramy

CMonakar

Just take it to a competent interior shop. My friends that do a lot of track driving have used several different shops to do the same thing with good success. This is low low skill stuff in that industry. If you have trouble finding one in your area call a high end body shop.

As for finding the material, I would call Recaro first. As of a few years ago they sold replacement material rolls. If not try Coachtrim.com -if it's available they can get it.

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

I can tell ya first hand that the difficulty is getting the material to hold through the many curves of the bolster, esp. the inward depression. That's the difficult part.

Recaro does not have the rights to the material; it's Mazda Japan's sole property. Been there, done that

CMonakar

I've seen them in person and the material looked no different from what came on the Recaro seats that my friend has in his M3. However, I didn't look at them side by side. You're telling me you know for a fact that the Recaro seats used by Mazda have a different type of material than the standard Recaro seats that they were based on? If so please elaborate. If it's Mazda's sole property, I assume it's available from Mazda worst case.

As for getting the material to fit around the bolsters -again this is cake for a competent interior shop. Compared to leather, fabric is easy to work with.

I'm not trying to bust your chops here. I'm just having trouble understanding why you don't post the source for the fabric and tell him to find a local shop and be done with it. It would make his life a lot easier than intermediating the same process from 1/2 way around the world.

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Yes.

I just did. I've seen what Recaro uses, and it's a different material. I've spoken to more Recaro reps than I can count, and seen their fabrics first-hand. It's different.

Yep, Mazda Japan. Not available in the US, and only available in huge sections (both bolsters, or the entire center, or the foam cushion (add-on). Not sold as just small bits of material.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'm telling you from experience...it isn't that easy on these seats in particular.

No chops busted. I spent several months (almost 2 years) trying to obtain the source. All that time & effort comes at a price. And being that I sell these seats, I have a vested interest in ensuring that I protect my interest. I thought that would be obvious. I don't mind helping out, but it's also important to display business smarts

Or, of course, you can purchase the bolsters material for a grand or so from Mazda Japan

~Ramy

Integrale-Guy

Heh, we all have our trade secrets and contacts and i can fully understand the need to protect them. Would it be possible to buy a section off you, probably a piece twice as big as i'll need juuuuuuusst incase! If you're up for it just message me with a price, I can pay by paypal etc.....
Thanks,
Guy

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Guy, thanks for understanding, and absolutely Shoot me an email with the size you'd like (gotta know how much to cut, as I have a nice roll of the stuff LOL) and we'll get ya taken care of. Info@FDNewbieImports.com.

Thanks,
~Ramy