Froggmann

Ok I'm finally piecing together a system for my FC. It comprises of the four stock(?) speakers in the front two Infinity Kappa 3 ways for the rear 1 10" Kicker Comp. sub a Kenwood KAC 626 300 W amp and a Pioneer DEH-P6300 head unit. I'm planning on having the head unit power only the front speakers and use the amp for the rear speakers and sub in a tri-mode confioguration (speakers connected to the two channels, sub connected bridge style to the two channels) Has anyone done this? what extra things should I plan on getting?

Froggmann

Any recomendations anyone?

SpeedKing

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Nobody in their right mind would set up their stereo system this way. You've got it all backwards! Why are you biasing your power towards the rear? Put 2 or 3-way speakers up front, coaxials in the back, power your front speakers and sub off the amp, and the coaxials off the head unit.

Froggmann

I'm just working with what I have, really dont have the money to do this the right way at this time.

SpeedKing

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Nothing personal, but if you don't have the money, then don't do it. I guarantee, your system will sound awful with all the sound coming from the back.

TurboIIGuy

your set up won't sound that bad. it should be decent. Remember the speakers that are closest to you need less power than those further away. I've done the same thing in the past when I didn't have the full budget for my system at once. just do it.
just remember to adust your amp according to what the fron speakers sound like. Once everything is installed turn it on and only play the speakers that are being powered by the headunit. Disconnect the amplifier so those up front are the only ones you hear. Turn up your stereo as loud as it will play while still sounding good. Make all your adjustments while listening only to the speakers powered by the headunit. The reason for this is that in all my years of installing stereo systems it always happens. when you run a system that is half amped and half not amped you hear the speakers that are getting more power over the other ones. In doing this you might not realize how crappy the lower powered speakers sound and may blow them out. So after playing the speakers run by the stereo alone and figuring out what sounds best to you pay attention to what the highest volume is. Now turn yopur stereo volume down and then turn it off. Reconnect the amplifier and turn it all back on again. Turn your stereo up to the highest volume that sounded good to you and tune the gains and crossovers on your amp to that volume. So long as you got sounds it's a good thing, they don't gotta rock the block, they only gotta rock you. Hope this bit helps you out.

TurboIIGuy

hey Froggman, i bought my TurboII in the hills of Anaheim, LoL
yea I know, I'm retarded

SpeedKing

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Try watching TV, with the TV *behind* you. That's what it's going to sound like, and that's neither "decent" nor acceptable.

Froggmann: Set your system up properly, not half-assed.

TurboIIGuy

That's why I suggest you tune the speakers connected only to the headunit first, then adjust the speakers powered by the amp. That will help you hear the balance so that you don't over compensate with the amp powered speakers. Either way it's no big deal. We're not talking about how to set up what you have to win a show, you just want sound in your car. That's all that matters and that's what you will have.

SpeedKing

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Then what's the point in hooking up the rear speakers to the amp? 80% of what you hear comes from the front. If anything, hook up the stock front speakers to the amp, and run the rear speakers off the head unit. Also, with a sub booming in the trunk, you're going to be even *less* likely to hear the rears. It's not about "just want(ing) sound in your car", it's about proper setup.

Railgun

How hard is this? Not very.

Hook it up like speedking is telling you. You have a sub, so you can tune the bass down a bit to not kill the stock fronts. Run the rears off the head. When the time comes to upgrade, all the wiring, which is the pain in the *** part if you're running new wire anyway will be done already. Then you can just dump in the new speakers and go.

You will by MUCH happier this way. And you'd be suprised how well some stock speakers can sound with ample power behind them. I would suggest getting something by way of a bass blocker, or if you amp can do it, get the low pass filter going for the fronts to give you some extra protection from killing them.

Froggmann

I found a problem with my original Idea my head unit is more advanced than I originally thought it was. It's got RCAs for both front and back and a pre-out for a sub. So for now I'm just going to run the sub off the amp and plan to get another amp or two to control the rest of the system when I get the money. Plus this way I can use the sub control on the head unit to control the Boom-Boom while I zoom-zoom

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|____ Did I just say that? I'm gonna go bang my head into something solid and heavy now...

TurboIIGuy

well there you have it gentlemen!!!! LoL

spot_skater

just make sure you alternator can handle the extra current draw from the two or more amps, if it can't
you'll be in a pretty shitty perdicament (sp)
s4's have a 70 amp alt, and s5's have an 80, you may want to upgrade to an FD alt or use a few capacitors...

i've got my stereo set up the way he was originally going to do his, but i have 6x9's on the storage bins, with proper tuning it will sound decent, but any way you put it most of the sound will be in the hatch area

if tuned correctly you shouldn't really be able to tell where the sound is coming from
basically adjust everything while your sitting in your driver's seat, do the fronts and rears first, if possible, then adjust the sub accordingly

good luck, and if you need anything PM me

take care,
james

Railgun

With proper tuning, it should come from up front. That's where you want your soundstage.

Froggmann

Yea I know I need to get another battery and if I put another amp in there I'm gonna probbilby have an alternator built for that purpose.

SpeedKing

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Ugh! So much misinformation on this thread!

Froggmann: You WON'T need another battery nor need to upgrade your alternator. Your stock charging system should be able to handle the load of your setup just fine.

Froggmann

No my battery is toast. Today my dome light was on for 20 minutes and it killed the battery. I'm gonna try to get a gel cell one instead of a normal replacement. Since I have to go get a battery I'm gonna try to get a good one with a decent reserve.

blue 88

if your amp has two rca inputs and a is a four channel, then the best way to run it is to use two channels for the fronts and then bridge the other two channels to use for the sub, and then run the rears off of your deck. that is the easiest way to do it and have a pretty good sounding system and then you can have more power to the fronts and your soundstage will be a lot better

spot_skater

blue 88

does that say werd or wierd my eyes arent that good?

Railgun

It does.

blue 88

froggmann you can pm me or email me at boy_racer14@hotmail.com if you would like to know how to make your existing setup work, i will be more than willing to send you wiring diagrams and descriptions of how to do it

blue 88

here is the diagram that i sent you it is a bit less blurry

blue 88

this is awsome no body has said that my diagram is wrong(it isn't) but wow.