ksauto

Good evening.

I am a shop owner located in El Monte. My store name is KS Auto (not same like Burnout). Lately I have made contact with a number one composite factory in China. Since I have been involved in composites and cars, I would like to propose some great opportunity for people like me.

We have been looking at many cars online and have noticed that the Shine Auto Project is the perfect bumpers that we can reproduce. We have heard great things and it would be great for us to be able to use their skills to help our composites company in China.

Before you say no to China please know that we have been in the automotive, military, badminton and ping pong paddle industry for 14 years. Recently we have been granted a contract with the Olympic committee in China. We would invite you to come see our many products that will be produced for the event.

Please tell me what bumper from Shine Aero you would like to have. We will purchase and copy the style and give the bumper to you for free after we have used it. We will make sure the fit is even better than Shine Auto. We will also use new FRP materials that are patent pending from our factory engineers in China. These new materials will be lighter and as strong as polyurethane. The bending will also be okay.

Please let us know what you would like. We plan on purchasing the products very soon. Of course, this will be all confidential, as I am not sure if this is legal. We love to start new business.

Thank you
KSAUTO in El Monte.

cabaynes

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So you're going to copy a copy? You do realize that ALL of Shine Auto's parts are replicas of Japanese tuner parts.

I doubt you'll be able to "make sure the fit is even better than Shine Auto" because they seem to do a damn good job of making their parts fit like and OEM part should.

I know we live in a free market society, but this post of yours really aggravates me. Shine Auto does a great job for the community, (even if they are taking some money away from our favorite Japanese tuners) and then you come in and blatantly say that you plan on copying their products to turn a profit?

Last time I checked, Shine Auto was paying to advertise on this site, are you?

SayNoToPistons

"badminton and ping pong paddle industry for 14 years"

I'm chinese and that made me LOL.

If you can produce some items with quality that can compare with Shine Auto's for cheaper... I'll be interested without a doubt.

ksauto

Yes. I was actually with my big boss (dai ca) in China when they conferenced regarding the Yonex contract. That was a good deal for us. I am not with him anymore.

I do not want to talk about that. Shine Auto Aero is excellent and we would like to know more about them. Can I see more pictures of their products? Maybe we can share the pictures on this topic. Can people add images of Shine Auto products for me?

I would love to see the great quality of these kits.

ksauto

In fact gentlemen, since our manufacturing facility is one of the largest in China, and thus the world, our methods of manufacture can surpass that of any smaller company. We are able to achieve this through the use of higher quality molds that small companies can not hope to make (they can cost over 70,000 yuan!!), and manufacturing processes that eliminate any possible small defect that you can not avoid when making items on small scale.

ksauto

I am sorry this part of your post confuses me a little bit. You say that KS Auto blatantly says they are planning on copying other people's hard work for a profit, and then you say that people shouldn't blatantly copy other people's hard work for a profit? We view it as the original copier is the one copying someone else's hard work and taking money from them. Our corporate goal is to just copy the copy, since that is a copy of no hard work.

We have considered part of our strategy to purchase this whole site with our partners overseas.

w00t

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mykah89

iTrader: (4)

This is some sort of joke amirite?

ksauto

I do not joke about my adventure into automobile industry. I also own many cars that I like to drive fast in. I was doing searches for bumpers and found this forum and found out many things on Shine Auto. Particular they have great products.

Do you have any experience with the products?

Kind regards.

fritts

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How about making a plateless 99 spec bumper similar to the RE or Pettit one out of a semi flexible fiberglass. I have an RE and would like a nice one without waves and the problems the RE bumper has on the passenger side light area. We have been trying to get Shine to do it but without any luck so far.

http://www.pettitracing.com/rx7/index.htm

https://www.rx7club.com/shineautoproject-161/99-spec-platess-bumper-653334/

https://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/does-anyone-have-rotary-extreme-99-spec-w-o-plate-bumper-543092/page2/

SayNoToPistons

https://www.rx7club.com/shineautoproject-161/


LOL, good luck. Like i said before, if your products come out just as good and they cost less, i'm in.

cabaynes

iTrader: (4)

If you're going to copy anything, copy originals. Shine takes the original products (which have flaws) and (with much hard work) is able to make most of them fit better than the originals. Also if you're so serious about this project, you'd take the 5 minutes and search this site to find your own info on Shine's products. It does not seem that you are quite capable of producing the type of products you want if your business plan relies on others to do your research for you.

Replicating a bumper is a lot more than taking a bumper, making a mold of it and then replicating it 1,000 times... Thats what bad companies do. Do you own an RX7? Would you be able to go to china and test fit the bumpers they produce many many times before getting it just right? Just because you work for a large company with big budget in no way guarantees a quality product in return.

You very well may "own many cars" and like to "drive fast," but that does nothing to prove to me that you can make a quality product.



Haha, good luck with that

cabaynes

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Fritts, nothing personal but you should just buy the Pettit one. It's got to be a lot better than anything that RE ever made and ANY good body shop will be able to make it look 99% perfect. Make it work! Or just buy the OEM 99 spec bumper with the plate holder? It fits perfect and looks 10x better anyway!

87 t-66

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someone ban this retard

ksauto

Please, I come to this board for information. I do not understand why you would like me ban.

"Don't taze me bro."

ksauto

I believe that by your logic, then it is better to copy shine's product since they have made a part that is superior to the original, correct? In China there is a saying, "copy what is good and you will make good, copy what is bad, and you will only have bad." Since so many people here support shine and their copied products, then it seems only the best idea to copy their copies. I know their process is to simply make a mold of an existing part and then duplicate it. We will be doing the same, but using superior molds and materials and processes! With cheaper molds, the 10th part that comes out of it will no longer be like the first one. With our 70K yuan molds, the 500th part will only deviate by .1mm from the first one! If shine's products fit so well, then do you not see that by taking their product, and making an amazing mold of it (and we will even fix their minor problems before producing mold), we can offer a superior product? And with our large volume and competitive labor rates, at better prices!

DarkKnightFC

Whats to say they won't be made of pure lead?

ksauto

We would recommend that if you are lucky enough to get a bodykit with high lead content to contact a local professional assayer to assist you in extracting the lead and selling it on the open market. Then your bumper will actually make you more money than you pay for the bodykit!

That Rx-7 kid

so uh when does this thread get closed?

ksauto

ha ha i am sorry i make a joke. Many Chinese companies now make fun of the lead paint situation also, so among all out business associates, we joke when foreign consumers ask us about lead! I am sorry my joke about the melting down the lead was not meant to be serious. But the potential of offering the product is very serious.

RISEN

I'm looking for some OEM FD sideskirts

DarkKnightFC

Thats not the case with the toys containing lead. Maybe they weren't high enough in concentration. Just enough to make you retarded.

phoenix7

seriously you're all stupid. If this guy is for real then he can make more parts for decent prices. Aren't you the lil whino bitches that complain when MOST aero parts are too expensive?? Shut the **** up and post something semi-intelligent for once ( this is why I miss the lounge, it keeps most of these ppl out of here)

to get back on topic:

1. ShineAutoProject makes COPIES of Japanese body kits but in much better quality (FRP) as you already know.

2. I doubt they will be happy with this but more competition means cheaper prices so don't expect them to post pictures.

3. if you are really interested in making parts for OUR CARS (1979-2002 RX7's) then you're better off going to Japan and copying any and all aero parts you can and reproducing them.

4. what kind of quality can we expect? I'm sorry but China isn't known as the maker of HIGH quality replicas so don't expect many people to go along with this.

5. look into RE-Amemiya, R-magic, Monkey majic/Uras, MAZDASPEED, knightsports and many other japanese companies that make fenders, hoods, sideskirts, rear skirts, wings, front and rear diffusers, over-fender, look into making FG dashboard copies, or Carbon fiber ones among other interior pieces, etc., etc.

6. at the lead comments. That's the first thing I thought about.

7. you have a lot of HW to do. Bring us decent QUALITY parts at decent prices and you'll be set.

ksauto

Thank you for your kindest words.

We do not want to advertise too much because we feel we need to let the quality of our composites to speak for themselves.

I sincerely invite you to attend the olympics in China and see our excellent products. We will have a large composite decoration at the entrance to the main pool for the water events. We also have some carbon fiber products being assembled for some athletes. We cannot create carbon for commercial consumer, only special contracts.

I thank you kindly. We will do our best to help this community.

Troux

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I'm gonna just say "No." to China.