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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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Fender rolling question

For those of you who have rolled their fenders, do you keep the inner plastic fender liner? I know this is a stupid question but my tires keep rubbing the damn thing anyway. If I do decide to roll the fenders, I would probably just throw them away (as long as others have done it without problems).

If there are any pics of the fenders rolled (pics from inside) please post. I would like to see what you have done with the existing wiring harness and other little parts that call the fender well home.

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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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dont remove the fender liner

**** will get into ur engine bay and short the electricals

i did mine and still keepin the fender linner in there

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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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yup keep the fender liner....

but when you roll it take the screws out that are one the edge of the fender. The reason is as you flatten the fender you can push the tip of the screw into your body work
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 04:13 AM
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Keep your fender liners. You run the risk of one of your wheels rubbing through your harness and having electrical problems.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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I had just bought new liners because of that problem (shorting out my ECU). Thanks for the info guys.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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If your liners are rubbing, then your tires are too thick for the amount you lowered it. There is plenty of room for lowering with the stock liner.

By "rolling" our fenders, many of us have just flatned the lip of the fender, to press against the inner side. This helps run thick tires, turn the wheel without hitting the fender and lower the car considerably.

Bottom line is, if you are rubbing through your harness, get some lower profile tires or raise the car a bit.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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If you're going to roll the fenders, then remove the fender liners completely for the actual rolling work, and replace the liners when done. It's easy to do, and has some benefits:
- you can clean the grit & grime off of the parts that were formerly covered by the liner, such as the inside of the lip (it shouldn't be too bad, but there will be some junk in there)
- once clean, you won't roll grit [i]into[\i] the paint on the fender lip
- you will be able to clearly see how much you are rolling the lip (including the tabs to which the liner attaches)
- you can inspect your oil cooler(s) and coolant overflow bottle, etc.
- you can clean the liner itself

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 04:18 AM
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A bit off the subject here, but I have the same problem with the tire hitting the fender liner. This only happens on right turns, turning the wheel all the way to the right, whether backing out of a space, pulling into one, or just making a turn. It doesn't do it when I turn left, and the sound dissappears when Im driving over a parking lot speed. The reason I am asking is, that I have stock wheels, standard tires, and no suspension work. I am basically running entirely stock for all the suspension components, yet I still get this rubber to plastic rub. Any fixes for this?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevey629
A bit off the subject here, but I have the same problem with the tire hitting the fender liner. This only happens on right turns, turning the wheel all the way to the right, whether backing out of a space, pulling into one, or just making a turn. It doesn't do it when I turn left, and the sound dissappears when Im driving over a parking lot speed. The reason I am asking is, that I have stock wheels, standard tires, and no suspension work. I am basically running entirely stock for all the suspension components, yet I still get this rubber to plastic rub. Any fixes for this?
should not do that

check for proper fitment of the inner liner

make sure it tucks up into the fender with all plastic fasterners and bolts

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Little off topic but who has done this rolling job by themself? I dont think I will do it on my own because I just know I will **** something up. How much does it usually cost to get them rolled?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Little off topic but who has done this rolling job by themself? I dont think I will do it on my own because I just know I will **** something up. How much does it usually cost to get them rolled?
It usually runs about $20 per fender (YMMV). And if you don't know what you're doing, I recommend you take it to a pro. They use a heat gun while they're rolling your fender to keep the paint from cracking.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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It usually runs about $20 per fender (YMMV). And if you don't know what you're doing, I recommend you take it to a pro. They use a heat gun while they're rolling your fender to keep the paint from cracking.
Damn, so some *** tried to rip me off then...Wanted to charge me $100 per fender...Is it something they can do pretty quick or you have to leave it for a day or so?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by apneablue

Damn, so some *** tried to rip me off then...Wanted to charge me $100 per fender...
I said YMMV. Does sound like a rip though.



Is it something they can do pretty quick or you have to leave it for a day or so?
Should take no more than an hour.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedKing
I said YMMV. Does sound like a rip though.




Should take no more than an hour.
YMMV?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by apneablue
YMMV?
YMCA?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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YMCA?
Now you guys really have me confused.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Now you guys really have me confused.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=365974
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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No one I know has personally seen FIRST hand someone roll the lips without cracking some paint, there is alot of talk on the internet about it but that seems about it.

someone else bought the fender roller and used it on his FD and cracked the paint

paint wont bend, it will crack.
it might only crack on the edge if your lucky, but it will crack.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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use a heat gun to warm up and sort of melt the paint. as you have teh heat gun on the paint take a baseball bat or hammer or croquet stick or anythign that works for you and bend the inner fender lip up. just make sure you have the paint heated enough but not too much so that it starts to burn. dont worry about messing up because the worst that can happen to the fender is that it either doesnt get bent or you only bent part of it, neither of which are bad.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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and you have done this first hand or are you relaying the same information that everyone else spreads?

the paint will crack right on the edge when used on the front fenders of a FD.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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No one I know has personally seen FIRST hand someone roll the lips without cracking some paint, there is alot of talk on the internet about it but that seems about it.

someone else bought the fender roller and used it on his FD and cracked the paint

paint wont bend, it will crack.
it might only crack on the edge if your lucky, but it will crack.
You are right. I have heard of "professional" rollers that use a heat gun/torch so that the paint doesn't crack....then a few days later.....well, you get the idea.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by vice
use a heat gun to warm up and sort of melt the paint. as you have teh heat gun on the paint take a baseball bat or hammer or croquet stick or anythign that works for you and bend the inner fender lip up. just make sure you have the paint heated enough but not too much so that it starts to burn. dont worry about messing up because the worst that can happen to the fender is that it either doesnt get bent or you only bent part of it, neither of which are bad.
Talking to the guys down at Gotham, i hear you can really *** up your **** by doing this baseball bat technique...I wouldn't recommend it...Especially if it's as cheap as SpeedKing says it is.

Another thing...The lip is so thick on the rear fenders I can't imagine using a bat and not causing some deformation of the fender somehow.

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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and you have done this first hand or are you relaying the same information that everyone else spreads?

the paint will crack right on the edge when used on the front fenders of a FD.
I suppose it depends on the car. I've seen the fenders rolled on a friend's 240SX and there were no ill effects at the time or later.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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A bit off topic, but kinda sorta related...what's that lining between the front tire and the rest of the engine bay called? It sits directly in front of the tire, and the far edge of it is supposed to be secured to the edge of the front bumper (IIRC... don't have my car on me now). Cuz my 245/35s are slowly but surely destroying it when I turn the wheel...
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
A bit off topic, but kinda sorta related...what's that lining between the front tire and the rest of the engine bay called? It sits directly in front of the tire, and the far edge of it is supposed to be secured to the edge of the front bumper (IIRC... don't have my car on me now). Cuz my 245/35s are slowly but surely destroying it when I turn the wheel...
Fender liner I think is what you are talking about. Be careful becasue it can rub through and into your wiring harness.
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