Sprockett

Hello everyone,
I might be getting a pair of Corbeau CR1 seats:
here

I was wondering if anyone else has these, if you like them, opinions, etc. Please remember that I am limited on cash, so I can't afford Bride or Sparco - I was looking for a relatively cheap, good looking, functional replacement for my torn and beaten stock leather seats. Opinions would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Tyler

Sprockett

Anyone?

Sprockett

Sweet, glad to hear all of the responses - wait.....one at a time please! Thanks for all of the input

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

I don't know of anyone on the forum that has the reclineable Corbeau seats in an FD. A few have the non-reclineable racing seats, but that's about it.

Corbeau just recently made mounting rails that will work for the FD so there may be more people looking in to getting them.

onepointone

ive been looking to get the a4 for my first gen. i sat in one at a local race shop when i dyno'd, and it was so perfect. much better feeling than the $900 sparco they had there.

Sprockett

Yeah, they're very comfortable (I sat in one at Hot Import Nights in Chicago) and for $400 a piece, and about $1000 for seats, brackets, harnesses, and pads, it's not a bad deal

Here are some pics of what I might get:
Seats:

Harness (in black)


And the debateable part: (which one should I get?)
Corbeau pads (black)


or

Mazdaspeed (I don't have any other Mazdaspeed parts, but I really like these pads)


Should I even bother with pads? I don't know what a harness feels like with or without them, so anyone who knows, please tell me. Thanks,
- Tyler

Trinity Rx7

iTrader: (1)

My friend has those seats in his 93. They look good, the are a little tight on the booty unless your a little guy. The main problem with them is they faded from black to a nasty grey near the window in about 2 to 3 months. Other than that they look good.

autocrash

that harness is more than a little bit questionable...

....maybe wou should look into getting a proper harness, if you NEED to have a harness.... if not, just use the stock seatbelts...

...I wouldn't trust that harness to hold cargo in the back of my car....

autocrash

and if you do get it, the harness pads would be a good idea, just so you can cover up the name on the harness...

SanJoRX7

I'm a harness idiot, so...what's so wrong with that harness that you're so leary of it?

Sprockett

Yeah, I didn't really understand that either - It looks almost identical to the Sparco equivalent, and is made out of strong fabric. I'm not looking for FULL race spec - I want to maintain a little comfort. I like the 3 point harness they offer because it supports both shoulders, not just one like stock seat belts. However, other than regular street action, I don't race - so I don't think I need a race-spec 5-pt., fireproof, carbonfiber/kevlar harness (meant sarcastically). Maybe I'm wrong?

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Well, this info is not from Corbeau's site, but from another site:

Please note: 2" belts are not F.i.A, or S.F.I, only three inch belts have the approvals.

http://sportscar-parts.com/corbeau_seat_belts.html

It appears that the Corbeau harnesses are not approved. IMO, if you are going to get a harness, get one that's approved. I belive all the Sparco's are approved. At least that way, *if* you decide to do some track events, you'll be ready to go and won't be denied because of something like that.

SanJoRX7

On that note, then I'm skeptical of those harnesses too I figure if/when I ever get seats and harnesses (and a harness bar, and a roll cage, and...crikey, it's getting expensive! Calgon, take me away!!!) I'll get the good, race approved ones.

Better safe than sorry...cheap out on your belts and you might be wearing a steering wheel for a necklace

Sprockett

I looked on Options auto for different harnesses, mainly looking at Sparco because I knew the name had a good reputation, and found that all the belts Sparco makes (at least, those available on Options) are all 2"
http://www.optauto.com/webstore/prod...er=1&last=1602



*edit* I found the competition belts, but they are priced far above wht I can afford for now. I think I'll just stick to the 2" belts, and buy competition if I ever feel the need to compete.

autocrash

lol... the reason I initially question the belt is first the manufacturer, corbeau is known for making cheaper seats... (not neccisarily a bad thing) ...but not known for high quality race car gear.
Secondly, the quality of the hardware used: the center buckle looks identical to one on a standard seatbelt (which is designed to be loaded ONLY in tension) unlike a proper center lock harness. additionally, the end of the Y strap looks like it's connected with a piece of wire to that bolt... and that doesn't even begin to go into the actual mounting of the harness..... (or the grade of bolt).
As well, the Y appears to be only looped over the lap belt... I think you'd probably be better off with just a straight lap belt...

I agree that a competition harness may be out of the monetary range for many people (myself included). But there is a reason for that: a competition harness is TESTED and APPROVED. (remember, this is whats keeping you in the car in case of an accident, this is something you should NOT skimp on.)

Besides, you already have a perfectly functional, tested, and approved system installed in your vehicle. (I assume...)

And that doesn't even begin to go into the potential dangers of a roll over

Sprockett

Look at this, though:
http://www.optauto.com/webstore/prod...=yes&dept=1602

It's for a sparco harness that looks almost identical. The belt buckel is almost exactly the same. Also, if you look carefully at the Corbeau harness pic, you can see that it is not held by a wire, but is actually a polished aluminum fastener (can only see outline on white background)

Also, I said that I didn't have the money for Sparcos, so I can't go that route. Anyone know a good site where I can look at Mazdaspeed seats?

Sprockett

See, I chose Corbeau because of the price. I need new seats (mine are destroyed) and I am looking to find a racing-style seat that I can use a 3 point harness with. I don't really care if it is not race-spec. I am just looking for a well made seat and a belt that will keep me close to it. I'll upgrade to better seats when I get the money, but right now I am not going to put up with dirty, stained, and torn leather seats in my car anymore.

autocrash

See, I understand what are saying about price completely, I'm broke as ****... (I doubt I could even afford a junkyard seat right now... :S)
As for the bracket, well, uhmm... I'm blind ....*shrug*.....

I agree with your decision to buy the corbeau seats, they seem to be good, and everyone has great things to say about them.. I'll prolly end up with corbeau's when I get some money :-)

....and for the record, I wouldn't buy the sparco harness either... :-) ...it's not proper approved safety equipment, for racing or for the street, and that doesn't seem right to trust my life with

IMHO I think you are better off/safer to just stick with the stock seatbelts, atleast until you install a roll cage and etc.

(restraints that hold you upright in a rollover are unsafe without a rollbar/cage...)

Sprockett

What do you think of this harness?
http://www.upracing.com/index.php?pa...f4a3ae9edfcee7

Sprockett

On a similar not, how would one attach these harnesses to the frame? Are there poins on the bracket to connect to, or do you have to drill holes to bolt them in? Any instructions?

autocrash

now THAT looks like a racing harness.

(at a really nice price too, I think....)

Now as far as attaching it properly, it gets complicated.

For the bottom 3 belts (ie. the lap belt ends and the crotch strap):

These have to be secured to the body either at the stock mounting points (possible with the 2 lap belts, using the existing seatbelt locations) or attached to a reinfoced anchor plate that is welded to the floor (for the crotch strap).

For the top 2 belts(shoulder belts):

These must be secured at a proper angle (from the top of your shoulders to the back of the car)(This will be specified by the manufacturer or the sanctioning body). They need to be secured to either a point on the rollcage, or a 'harness bar' which attaches approximately where a rear strut tower bar would be, but has specific mounting points for the harness.

In addition, this type of restraint will hold you in an upright position in the case of your roof caving in (after a rollover, etc.). This will break your spine like a twig. (Thats why the seatbelts only have one shoulder belt, your body can 'fall' towards the center of the car, preventing neck injury).
This type of harness (or any of the others mentioned in this thread) should not be used without a properly installed rollbar/cage.

--->I know it sounds ****, but I hate dealing with spinals.....

Sprockett

All right - anyone have opinions on this product?
Harness Bar:
http://www.rx7trix.com/store/custome...cat=116&page=1

SanJoRX7

Based on M2's analysis of the current rear STB, I'm convinced. Since I plan to get a roll cage and harness, I'll prolly go and get that STB just to be safe. Why take a risk, ya know?

rx7tt95

The reason why the Corbeau harness is designed that way is due to DOT regulations. You can get pulled over and fined for a real 5/6pt. racing harness...you must have a quick release DOT certified belt buckle. Obviously not the safest for track work. Just goes to show you how stupid our governmental system can be :-)

As to Corbeau's being cheap, I've never been happy with their stock fabric choice, but their seats are quality, much better than the plethora of crap that's available out there. Corbeau "used" to be upscale (I know, I bought a set of $700/ea seats from them) but has since moved towards less expensive designs as there wasn't enough of a high end market.

Sprockett

what's wrong with the stock fabric?