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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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99 spec lip spoiler or R1 lip spoiler?

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I was just wondering which lip spoiler is better? any pros and cons? Just wanted your suggestions and input...thanks.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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well this would depend on the bumper....
the 99 spec wont fit on a 93 bumper, as far as I know.
Of course i could be wrong.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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99 spec bumper will go on a 93 bumper, but it won't line up perfectly. It gets pretty close, but not 100%.

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 07:58 PM
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Oh ok.....kewl

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 09:17 PM
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99 spec, without a doubt - even on the stock bumper. that, along with the 99 tail lights are 2 cheap things you can do that makes the car SOOO much nicer for such little money
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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The 99 spec lip is pretty cheap. but honestly, those damn lights are pretty expensive. I'd say save that money on other modifications, like a feed type II bumper. Those are sick!!

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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Oh, but if i had a choice between the two, i would get the R1 lip. The 99 spec lip doesnt look all that great, IMO. But the R1 lip looks pretty smooth.

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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don't buy the lights! for less than $40 and 2 hours of work, you too can have them! really, though - there are several web sites that show how to do it. i did it - cheap, easy, and you CAN NOT tell the difference from the real deal.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 01:59 AM
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I think both look pretty cool. But being an R1 owner, I would feel kinda stupid with the 99 front lip and nothing else updated ... but not for long. '99 spec turbos on the way, baby. One thing though ... the '99 lip is actually functionally different. Something about directing more of the air flow to the sides and less underneath; helping increase stability, especially at higher speeds. Anyhow, my $0.02
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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those hand made tail light jobbies look like !%#@!
If your going to do something.....do it right.
You can tell the difference between the two easly. The JDM ones have a actual curve to the lens in the circles to give them a more rounded look when lit. You may not see this when the car is driving 50ft in front of you, but if the car is parked and im checking out these kewl J-spec tail lights, I'm gonna know whether or not this person is into the real deal or not. Why not use some real cool Ractive parts on the cars while we are at it(sarcastic voice)
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by redrotorR1
I think both look pretty cool. But being an R1 owner, I would feel kinda stupid with the 99 front lip and nothing else updated ... but not for long. '99 spec turbos on the way, baby. One thing though ... the '99 lip is actually functionally different. Something about directing more of the air flow to the sides and less underneath; helping increase stability, especially at higher speeds. Anyhow, my $0.02
absolutely correct.. the 99 lip was a revision Mazda made because at speed it was found that the nose was ingesting more air than it could use and the result was that the air would spill out and under the front bumper.. So the lip was extended so that it made it harder for the excess air to spill over and actually give it a chance to work its way through the rest of the bodywork..
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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With a little work, I managed to get a 99 spoiler on my 93' Touring front. I think it is a handsome addition to the car... and good for keeping my nose down at highspeeds. Had a lot of compliments on it.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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With a little work, I managed to get a 99 spoiler on my 93' Touring front.
Most of the websites I visit say that you have to drill a couple holes to get proper fitment. What did you have to do get the spoiler mounted?
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Mazdabation
those hand made tail light jobbies look like !%#@!
If your going to do something.....do it right.
You can tell the difference between the two easly. The JDM ones have a actual curve to the lens in the circles to give them a more rounded look when lit. You may not see this when the car is driving 50ft in front of you, but if the car is parked and im checking out these kewl J-spec tail lights, I'm gonna know whether or not this person is into the real deal or not. Why not use some real cool Ractive parts on the cars while we are at it(sarcastic voice)
what the hell are you talking about?! maybe if a 5 year old did them you could tell a difference. into the real deal - whatever, sure - then maybe you can tell someone who has nothing else to do with $800.(yeah, that's a sarcastic voice)
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 01:12 PM
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what the hell are you talking about?! maybe if a 5 year old did them you could tell a difference. into the real deal - whatever, sure - then maybe you can tell someone who has nothing else to do with $800.(yeah, that's a sarcastic voice)



$800 bucks.....where you buying from??
you can get them $450 shipped to you from 4jspec.com
I assume you have never seen the real ones to be able to see the diffference? You think there is black paint or your carbon fiber just slapped on JDM ones to make them look round?
the U.S spec lenses are flat the whole way through........the J-spec is also flat, except where the round part of the lens is. this part of the lense actually bubbles out (3-D) to give them a more round effect

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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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Post some pics up of the 2
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Mazdabation
those hand made tail light jobbies look like !%#@!
If your going to do something.....do it right.
You can tell the difference between the two easly. The JDM ones have a actual curve to the lens in the circles to give them a more rounded look when lit. You may not see this when the car is driving 50ft in front of you, but if the car is parked and im checking out these kewl J-spec tail lights, I'm gonna know whether or not this person is into the real deal or not. Why not use some real cool Ractive parts on the cars while we are at it(sarcastic voice)
I have seen pics of a lot of conversions and they look good to me. Who cares if they don't have a 3-d contour over the bulb? To me, $450 is much better spent on almost anything to do with the car.

I don't know whose conversions you've seen but Herb Blenny's and rx7even's are very well done.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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I've seen the real ones up close and while they are a little different, it's not worth paying $400 for.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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the 99 lip looks better than the 93R1 Lip. I had the 93 and switched to the 99 for a more aggressive look. Cons of the 99 lip is that it doesn't line up with the R1 "brake ducts" as well. Pros are that it provides more downforce to the front of the car. BOth are better for high speed driving, but the 99lip is better than the 93

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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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Cons of more downforce is that it creates more drag and requires more Hp for maintaining the same speed.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:50 PM
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Does anyone have a pic of the 99 jspec lip on their car so we can see any alignment issues?
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 06:24 PM
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Does anyone have a pic of the 99 jspec lip on their car so we can see any alignment issues?
There are a bunch in my homepage in my sig.

Also, the fitment isn't much of an issue...it looks much nicer than the R1 lip and basically requires that you use a pair of self-tapping screws on the 2 points where it doesn't mate up 100%.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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$800 bucks.....where you buying from??
you can get them $450 shipped to you from 4jspec.com
I assume you have never seen the real ones to be able to see the diffference? You think there is black paint or your carbon fiber just slapped on JDM ones to make them look round?
the U.S spec lenses are flat the whole way through........the J-spec is also flat, except where the round part of the lens is. this part of the lense actually bubbles out (3-D) to give them a more round effect
yeah, you're right. i haven't seen the real deal up close. Also, last i checked (yes, it was like a year ago), they were selling for $400 per side.

BUT, using contact paper and some paint, for under $40 you can get round tail lights that look as good as the real thing. since the only people who look at my tail lights are other drivers who wouldn't know the difference between that or the "JDM" , who cares. unless you feel like paying $450 for piece of mind.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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There are a bunch in my homepage in my sig.
I went to your site... where did you get the efini center caps? I'd love some for my tII wheels.

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