i have an aem wideband. works great, but datalogging the numbers are off from the gauge to what the haltech is seeing.

tried adjusting it and everything in the settings and filters, but no luck with the e8


what are you guys using that is working great with datalogging for the haltech?

 

I really like the Haltech wideband. Robust and has given good results. I liked FJO until recently we got one that read way lean at the rich end of the scale. Would read 12:1 when two others (an Autronic B for one) read 10:1. We returned it around 6 weeks ago and FJO still hasn't said a word other than it tested OK. Innovate is junk IMO. The NGK boxes work very well (they're made by ECM which makes high quality lab grade controllers), they're just in a very clunky package. Cost no object? ECM.

 

I have the ngk afx with a bosch sensor. Mine seems really slow to display afr changes. It displays about 4 values per second. I was wondering is that was normal????

 

I like the PLX stuff.

 

Currently using Innovate but I agree with C. Ludwig - I won't be getting another. Haltech one will replace it.

 

Old school PLX M-200 using an NTK L1H1 5V sensor. Best sensor type around. Bosch sucks. AEM wideband sucks. Don't much like Innovate, either.

B

 

They do update the display more slowly than other makes.

 

Thanx for the head's-up on the Haltech. I'm not thrilled with the AEM wideband either, but my Innovate seems to function well. What about the Innovate is disappointing?

 

In my experience, sensors that fail far too quickly (Innovate will tell you you're getting the sensor too hot and gladly sell you a heatsink, no other manufacturer I'm aware of even offers a heatsink), quirky power supply issues (Innovate will gladly educate you on how your method of grounding the unit sucks when most other units are not nearly as finicky), failed A/D converters. I had an LM1 for quite a while and it functioned OK. The LC1s are crap. Both in dealing with customer units and in selling the Haltech rebadged units they were a total pain to deal with. I like the non-WBO2 stuff Innovate has and I love their software, but their digital approach to running an analog system is quirky at best.

 

lol, I get it. Appreciate the detailed response.

My impression is the high temp failure problem is a function of the Bosch sensor so it's hard to fault Innovate for that since everyone uses that LSU type sensor these days. Although if my sensor failed, I'd probably be irritated with Innovate too.

 

Yes and no. I've used other controllers with Bosch sensors with not nearly the failure rate as with the Innovate controllers.

 

I have the same problem with the aem. My haltech reads .3 to .4 leaner than the gauge across the board. Maybe try grounding your gauge at the same location as your haltech( if it is not already), this is what a member had instructed me to do but it did not help me. I have not tried to adjust the voltage references in the haltech though, that is what I was going to try next.

 

Yeah it'll just be ground offset, adjust the scale in the Haltech to correct for it. As much as I prefer everything to be perfect, I have done this without issue before.

 

ill be the first one to say TECH EDGE!!

 

yeah on the e8 i couldnt find a scale to offset it by. i was gonna try doing it by hand with the placement in the settings.

since you can do 0v and 5v. then unplugging the aem you can calibrate it to whatever it is. 14.xx (in the manual)


i did that on my aem ems. where you unplug it and just set the offset to match the known number. guess ill just have to do some math for the e8 to figure it out.



if this doesnt work, ill prob just do a haltech sensor

 

The default Haltech wideband input is 0v=10:1 and 5v=20:1 which, I believe, matches the default setting of the newer AEM widebands.

 

i had a Techedge for 8yrs. was great till NTK L1H1 sensor finally went bad ,sensor cost more than a complete new AEM kit.

 

I second, or third, or fourth the innovative.... I let the sensor warm up, then start the car. It will read fine and work. Then the next time I start the car, it reads an error number and the LED blinks. It seems to only work every other time the engine runs. I was thinking of just getting another system entirely. Even the wiring of the unit was stupid. They give you TINY gauge wires from the controller with colors that don't even match up the display gauges and wires. I'm wiring 22 gauge blue to a... 28 gauge yellow?

 

I have fitted and used the haltech kit. its excellent. It has not failed me. It reads with in .2-.3 of the autronic sensor i use on my dyno.

Its excellent for datalogging. Love it.

 

yeah. aem usually always seems to be slightly off. for the aem ems, you unplug it so it pump outs 2.35 volts. then you play with an offset to match that known.



i checked on the e8 and when its (aem wideband) unplugged its seeing 2.3944 volts. so its .044 off. but I cant add the whole .044 to all the cal point. so im just doing .04 now to get it closer.

from a quick view, i seem to have it closer, but not completely point on. or it could just be the refresh times

 

The NTK sensor is where it's at.

Somebody needs to make a simple yet friendly-to-us wideband using the newer NTK sensors.

B

 

Thats weird ive had two innovate lc1's and ive never had a problem with either one.

 

i was looking into getting the zeitronix zt-2.

 

Yeah, I was also looking at the ZT-2, seems like a decent little unit although I have no experience with any wideband so I can't really say for sure. Anybody ever use this product?

 

Was curious if anyone has been using the AEM UEGO inline wideband controller. I am looking at this as oppposed to the Innovate LC-1