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Old 07-21-08, 12:55 AM
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Exclamation RX7 Questions.....

Ok well I've been into the DSM scene for awhile. Please don't bash, I love them dearly. But I recently came across a 95 JDM RX7 for sale. It's just recently had the motor rebuilt. I've heard alot of stories about rotary engines. I've heard they fall apart and blow easily. Yet I've also heard they can rev extremely high without blowing. Can you guys please clear this up for me. I'd really love to get this RX7. I just don't want a huge headache. Thanx in advance.

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you'll learn more if you research it yourself rather than have someone tell you.
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Originally Posted by aaron_bc
the search button is your friend.



you'll learn more if you research it yourself rather than have someone tell you.
I used the search button, just as I do on the other forums I'm a member of. I keep getting mixed answers. If the RX7 community can't be helpful with getting a new person into their community then I probably don't want to be a part of it anyways. Atleast in the DSM community if there is a problem finding an answer they don't have a problem helping.
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Originally Posted by screamingdemon
I keep getting mixed answers. If the RX7 community can't be helpful with getting a new person into their community then I probably don't want to be a part of it anyways.


When this very same thread pops up 2, 3, 4 times a day, It clutters the forum making it harder to spot threads that can be of use.

I've suggested it before, but we really should just have a sticky at the top of the third gen section where we can merge all these threads into one super thread.

To answer your "questions", no the rotary is not a time bomb waiting to go off. Yes, clueless owners do tend to destroy them. No, you can not increase the boost on the stock ECU. No, a midpipe, resonated midpipe or gutted cat cannot be run with the stock ECU safely.

No, XS Power parts do not work just the same as name brand companies. Yes, a single turbo manifold really does cost over $1,000 if it's made with any level of quality. Yes, you should really premix. No, you do not want to go the cheap route at all on this car. Yes, the stock temp gauge needle rising only slightly did just cost you your motor. No, if there's a 1/2 inch gap between the housing and the irong it is not reusable. No you should not rebuild the motor yourself to save money. Yes you really do have to change the oil every 1500 miles, no exceptions. Yes it's normal to smell like gas after driving the car. Yes it's normal that almost new oil smells like pure gasoline. Yes, you can run synthetic or mineral oil. No, oil additives don't do ****.

Yes, a clogged injector really did cost you your brand new motor, you shouldn't have been such a cheap *** and gotten a quality build from a good engine builder who would have had your injectors cleaned and flow tested. No, Steve Kan is not God, he just thinks he is.

Answer your question thoroughly enough?

Oh, I almost forgot...

No, there is no such thing as a fully legal, registered JDM RX-7. Some slip through customs, most get crushed. The ones that make it to the road are not legal, so if ever you get stopped you'd better hope you don't get a curious cop.

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Care to explain why there are no "LEGAL" JDM RX7's? How would just a few slip through when this company I've been talking to imports whatever you want? I don't think they'd like if their clients car was to get crushed directly after import. I've also seen many Skyline's and Sylvia's come through this company that were registered and fully road legal. That'd great if you could clear that up. But I don't guess I should expect that after the shitty welcome I got for just asking a simple question that when I searched didn't come up with anything that pertained to what I was wanting to know.

Just because I just joined up on here doesn't mean I'm someone that expects people to spoon feed me all the info. But when I can't find an answer I'm not afraid to ask.

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Originally Posted by screamingdemon
Care to explain why there are no "LEGAL" JDM RX7's? How would just a few slip through when this company I've been talking to imports whatever you want?.
It's item number 12 in the third gen FAQ, additionally it's a very very very frequent thread topic, mostly in spring. Iit's in a sticky at the top of the freaking tech section.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/faq-3rd-gen-other-useful-links-68640/
Originally Posted by 12) Can I import an FD into the US from overseas?
Not legally, that any of us are aware, but it depends on the state and the intended use of the vehicle. Some owners have managed to import a 92-95 model and get the cars registered and insured fraudulently, but considering there is essentially no difference it is generally not worthwhile. In other words, it requires lying on federal documents. It would be extremely expensive to legally import a later version of this car for many reasons, much more than the cost of the cars themselves. If you see a LHD FD with 96+ trim on US roads, it’s probably a 93-95 with imported parts added later.

For more information, read this thread: https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=719206
US DOT/NHTSA Importation Regulations: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/
US Customs Importation Regulations: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/cl...utomobiles.xml
US EPA Emissions Regulations: http://www.epa.gov/OMS/imports/quiktext.htm
I can go further in depth with this, but I'd like you to use your searching abilities to find the more detailed responses.

Originally Posted by screamingdemon
I don't think they'd like if their clients car was to get crushed directly after import.
Though you've given no name, I can tell you that the experience from most people in dealing with auto importers has been, once the importer gets their money they don't really care what happens to you or your car. There was a guy here who had a 2002 Spirit R Type A imported. After many thousands of dollars, 4 years of waiting and a shitload of red tape, he finally received his car which the importer had been photographed doing hot laps at a race track in and had the seats stolen from. Never the less, to this day, the car is not fully legal.
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I've also seen many Skyline's and Sylvia's come through this company that were registered and fully road legal.
There was only one company that was ever able to legally import Skylines. They were shut down 3 years ago because it surfaced that they had forged their documents. Those that you see aren't actually legal, just slipped under the radar. You don't have to believe me. Take the cars to customs and have them run the VIN.

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The companies name is Black Ops Performance out of Florida.
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If you are looking into this FD, there is the best sticky in the world posted in the 3rd Gen section. To try and offer an answer to some of your questions: no the rotary does not just fall apart, but it will NOT tolerate much detonation and does need to run a good deal richer than your dsm. You do not need to run NEAR as much boost on a rotary to pull good rwhp. Most can acheive 400rwhp with only 15psi (single turbos) and a lot can get close to that on the twins.

Sorry, there are NO legal real (not flipped) JDM rx7's in the us. They are like the silvia, R32 and R34 skylines. I do know the legalization laws are a little more lax in some states (FL being number one) and as soon as lots of buyers from outside that state take the car down to thier local tag agency they are disappointed when they cannot register the car. If you really want, get the JDM vin and go down to your local tag agency. If it is a real Jap vin I don't see it happening for you. TRUST me, the Canadians can get them pretty easily (JDM's) and if they could be legalized then there would be a lot more in the this country. Motorex was the only company to get the skylines legal, the R34's had bogus paperwork as stated above but they did actually get the R33 to legal status and as far as I know it is the only one you can legalize for real if you can get your hands on the next-to-top-secret crash test results to modify the chassis.

The FD is a great car, but it is not for the faint of heart, or those with shallow pockets. If you go the cheap route on parts, you are sure to have them end up costing you big. Not to say you have to get the most expesive version of modification X you wish to buy, but if you don't buy quality products from quality companies the odds of product failure can be catastrophic. If you get ahead of yourself on modding, bad things happen. The rotary is a good engine that makes good power, but it does have to be looked after and cared for more than your DSM (I know, I used to have a DSM).

The RX7 is one of the greatest sports cars ever made. I don't just say that b/c I have one, it has been said over and over again by top car enthusiasts. My car is 15yrs old and I don't bat an eye at putting it up against the new ZO6, porche turbo's, ferrari's or any other car in a drag race, highway pull, or especially a road coarse where the FD really shines. I know there will always be someone faster, but that is ok with me.

I hope this helps some, but there is a LOT of reading you need to do on here. Please do not post questions like this as you see some of the attention they get. Not to mention this is information that is readily available on here.

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Old 07-24-08, 11:04 PM
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Well I'm sorry if I over looked the sticky. Everyone has there moments where they say "If it woulda been a snake it woulda bit me." I wasn't asking a "stupid" question in spit, just because I did a few searches on here and didn't come up with anything that looked like it'd help me. I guess I'll keep digging next time...
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I had a Skyline, just sold it to buy an FD. But I live in Canada.... JDM FTW!
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Wow, there are good ways of being a noob and not so good ways. Do LOTS of searching before starting a thread
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Originally Posted by screamingdemon
Care to explain why there are no "LEGAL" JDM RX7's? How would just a few slip through when this company I've been talking to imports whatever you want? I don't think they'd like if their clients car was to get crushed directly after import. I've also seen many Skyline's and Sylvia's come through this company that were registered and fully road legal.
Some people don't import the cars to make them legal to drive, they do it to make show cars or track cars and thats not illegal to do. You can import almost any car you just can't make most of them legal to drive on the streets.
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No worries, and I have been at the place that you are talking about in FL. Black Ops, last time I was down there visiting a friend who lives down there I stopped to look at a R33 GTS-T Skyline. Pretty smooth, but they were afully proud of it. Good luck with everything.
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The last I heard, those Skylines imported into the US have been getting impounded recently. I remember reading a link somebody posted here not more than a week ago that was an article regarding "Homeland Security" showing up to his house to take his Skyline that was supposedly legally imported.
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Originally Posted by oo7arkman
Motorex was the only company to get the skylines legal, the R34's had bogus paperwork as stated above but they did actually get the R33 to legal status and as far as I know it is the only one you can legalize for real if you can get your hands on the next-to-top-secret crash test results to modify the chassis.
There is a great article on the Motorex scandal in 0-60 magazine summer 2008 issue. It says that the R33 did pass the crash testing without modification, but did not pass emissions testing. It was the R32 and R34 that needed additional door structure and they only completed it on a handful of cars, then they just started saying that they performed the work. As far as I know the R33 can still be legalized if you can get through all of the red tape. If you can find the 0-60 mag that its in, I recommend that you buy it.
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