Out of all the generations and all the cars which is the fastest of all????

 

The Bugatti Veyron.

I'm a jerk, I know.

 

Your question is very vague.

Do you mean, stock, n/a vs. turbo, track car, DD, ect. Elaborate on your question, and maybe you'll get a better answer than Percent Seven's.

 

You mean an RX-7? The FD 3rd Gen is the highest performance of all. The 1st gen just has this look to it though... I park my FD next to the SA they both look phenominal. But the 1st gen it a fraction of the price and far easier to maintain and much more reliable.

 

lol yea but he did deserve it. Do you mean out of every stock trim Rx-7 out there which were ever produced in any country or did you just mean out of the 3 generations? Because all stock......hhmm.......well this is a tough one......however (wild guess) possibly the FD.

 

welcome to the board.

people on here will rag on you for anything, but the difference is you invite them to do so with questions like this. i mean, seriously, without knowing anything about them wouldn't you say it's fair to assume that they would have progressed over the years?

at any rate ... yes the Gen III Rx-7 (FD) is the pinnacle of Rx-7 performance, the Gen II (FC) improved in many ways over the Gen I (SA and FB) and i guess, overall, performed better - however, it's not that simple if you're comparing stock cars and consider the capabilities of the GSL-SE vs. the non-turbo FCs.

i hope that gives you some insight, but you need to learn to search the archives and FAQs of each generation for basic info like this.

 

Simple. Out of the box, 3rd gen is the fastest in all respects, when you can get it on the road. All gens have equal potential imo. depends on your taste, really. Most people like the look of the 3rd gen more than the others, but at the same time, most people don't like the running cost of the 3rd gen. 1st gens are cheap, easy to maintain, and basically an early model hard top Miata. 2nd gens are like the 3rd gen beta. they had good looks for the time, good, high powered 13Bs, and a very very stiff chasis. 3rd gens are like super models. Hard to get ahold of with low miles, even harder to maintain, they will suck all your bank accounts dry in no time at all until you get rid of them for something a bit more practical, and when you take them out EVERYONE is watching. So don't do anything stupid unless you have very good luck.

 

The FD....i really hope deep down this thread was a joke.

 

You can make anything fast with enough $$$
But stock it is by far the FD... more specificaly probobly the RX-7 SP model

 

Is the SP faster than the Spirit R Type A?

 

No. The Spirit R Type A is the fastest FD in every aspect.

 

now if only we had gotten them state side

 

You just showed your ignorance, did you even look at the specs before posting, oh and funny bit of trivia for you when Mazda tested the spirit R’s the type B got faster times with 3 out of 4 drivers.

The SP would rape the spirit R, but remember the SP was built as a race car and then they produced 25 road legal models to make it eligible for production car class racing(it was banned after winning to many times)

The spirit R was a road going car that they modified to be like a race car.

I borrowed this from wikipedia there is a lot more info on it if you go looking

Australia had a special high performance version of the RX-7 in 1995, dubbed the RX-7 SP. This model was developed as a homologated road-going version of the race car used in the 12hr endurance race held at Bathurst, New South Wales, beginning in 1991. An initial run of 25 were made, and later an extra 10 were built by Mazda due to demand. The RX-7 SP produced 204 kW (274 hp) and 357 N•m (263 ft•lbf) of torque, compared to 176 kW (236 hp) and 294 N•m (217 ft•lbf) on the standard version. Other changes included a race-inspired nose cone, race-proven rear wing, a 120 L fuel tank (as opposed to the 76 L tank in the standard car), a 4.3:1-ratio rear differential, 17 in diameter wheels, larger brake rotors and calipers. An improved intercooler, exhaust, and modified ECU were also included. Weight was reduced significantly with the aid of carbon fibre; a lightweight bonnet and seats were used to reduce weight to just 1218 kg (from 1310 kg). It was a serious road going race car that matched their rival Porsche 968CSRS for the final year Mazda officially entered. The formula paid off when the RX-7SP won the title, giving Mazda the winning trophy for a fourth straight year.

 

^ Sorry, but you aren't correct. Do a little more research next time.

The Spirit R produced 290-300 HP stock. It was rated at 276 due to the gentleman's agreement that Japanese car manufacturers had at the time. It weighed 1260 kg, giving it a power-to-weight ratio of around 4.30 kg/HP. Compare that to the SP's 4.45 kg/HP. (For further proof, the SP goes 0-60 in 6.0 seconds, the Spirit R does it in 5.2.) The Spirit R got basically all the goodies of the SP, including the brakes, 17" wheels and most of the aero parts. It didn't get the big rear wing (thank goodness) or, if I remember correctly, the larger-capacity fuel tank. It also had a more refined suspension than the SP.

As a side note, where did you find the Type A vs. Type B times? Not questioning you on that point (not much difference between the two, really; one has back seats, the other doesn't), I'm just interested.

 

Yes I may have spoke a bit too soon wasn’t trying to be a *****, but I still think the SP is faster at least on a track, maybe not a straight line
Keep in mind the "road models" were detuned you can get 320 HP stock (they were built to make 325ish). and the huge wing while a ugly is functional

check out RICE RACING' s car
0-100kph 5.004 sec, sea level 0m 4.88 sec
0-200kph 14.286 sec, seal level 0m 13.94
0-400m 12.418 sec @ 118mph, sea level 0m 12.12 sec @ 121mph


http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg12.htm
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

 

I'm not talking about the race models, which were significantly different from the road version. You can get that power from bolt-ons on any FD. And as for it being faster on a track, I seriously doubt it. While stiffened up significantly from standard models, from all accounts the SP was still very twitchy and somewhat of a handful to drive. The Spirit R's suspension was based on that of the Bathurst R, which was the evolution of the SP, but it had 7 years of maturation over the SP, and its nervous tendencies had been smoothed out.

I realize that handling is subjective, and I have actually driven neither car. I'm just going off of what I've read about them. I'm not trying to bash the SP, either. They're fantastic cars, and I would love to own one. It's just that the Spirit R was a more refined, powerful beast.

 

So...The guy lives in Florida and has a vert in his avatar...I don't think he much cares about which was the fastest FD in Australia. Let's keep this to America, in which case it'd be the S6 Base or R1. The base had a quicker 1/4 mile time due to being ~50lbs lighter than the R1 and the R1 was faster around a track due to stiffer suspension(as if the FD suspension isn't stiff enough) and a front strut tower bar.

 

Hey, you asked.

 

all I asked was if the SP was faster than the Spirit R Type A, since that seemed like a pretty large statement. I didn't expect it to turn into a 2 page war of which FD was better. ****, we all know FDs are the best cars in the world. end-o-story-o

I blame terror squad..

 

It's not a war, I'm just playing devils advocatin in a debate i know i have already lost . Not a lot of people know much about the Spirit R or the SP and they are almost never compared against each other


I wasn’t talking bolt on’s as much as just maximising the gear already in place. Due to the beefy support systems if tuned to full potential the results are amazing, everything was better that it needed to be for the performance given. I would guess that even the race versions weren’t tuned to what they could be as they were doing endure racing.

I also haven't driven either. But would love to see the two raced. I might drop a line to a rotary mag in Aust to see if I can’t get them to match them up. You never know they might do it

 

hey you know wut they say

If its cheap and fast, then its not reliable
If its cheap and reliable, then its not fast
if its fast and reliable, then its not cheap

lol unless your talking bout a FC, mines been cheap, reliable and fast

FC3S FTW lol