cr7684

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Here is a quick update: Erik had a bad primary injector that was flooding the car. Now there is an issue with hot temps & adding coolant. I have the car at my shop & will go over the car. Please keep in mind my job was a short block rebuild & after this tread I feel forced to do work I never agreed to do for FREE in order to save face.

I say the damage has been done already to my name with this tread, a lot of people will come on and give their input without knowing what's the true story! With that said I will fix what needs to be fixed & NEVER build a short block again for anyone! Seems like I have to come on here & set the record, you would think Erik would give all the information. Misleading, indirects or half information only leads people to think in one direction.

No matter what this will be taken care of my me.

Chris.

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BLACK MAMBA

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All I got to say that's suck Chris, the OP should come here and tell people in what condition the car was before the short block rebuild, like all the issues the car had, and his experience working on this cars.

Tem120

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There's a build thread for that.

and before the engine blew the car had no issues with cooling , or otherwise. my experience working on this cars??

my experience working on this car was building it from scratch . prettymuch the onlything I didnt build or touch was the motor and trans as they were bought with warranty , on the compression . which was good But the oil pressure wasn't

I admit 100% that the blow was my fault I should of checked the pressure with a mechanical gauge and rebuilt the engine beforehand ..But apart from that , What condition should I tell people my car was in ?


Are you really one to talk? all the money you spend making your car.. a dyno queen and it ends up like this ?

Tem120

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back to chris .. he's doing right by me ... he's checking the engine if the engine is good as he says I told him I'd pay him for his time.

but I'm 100% sure the engine has a coolant leak into it and thats why it has always had issues starting . the injectors could of been one of the issues But the injector leak wasnt major you could not see it visually , but I've given the motor every chance I could possibly give it . I've tried everything for 3 weeks I tried to drive it every day .. in order to break it in .. as he told me to do . this lead to me breaking down multiple times .

Another thing the car has always had an issue with cooling after hte rebuild . temps would go much higher then before . temps would stay at 85C while cruising in the summer . now they would go into the 90's and god forbid I revved it a bit high into the 4+k rpms it would instantly rise.. But rather then think it was the motor I purchased dual oil coolers

and i put up with it until the car started to overheat and eat coolant and when ever I cranked the car pressure would build up in the coolant system . that was my last straw. thats when I said ok there is something wrong here ..this isnt normal .

No the issue wasn't this bad before but if i'm right.. and its a coolant seal and the coolant seal just opened up some more would that not explain everything ??

feel free to prove me wrong.

fendamonky

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Too much drama.... Makes me think everybody living in Southern Florida wishes life were a reality show. No need to post up a blow-by-blow account of all the crap you do wrong or is done wrong.

Just let the thread die and come back to it (if you even want to go that far) when you've found the solution. Half-baked hypotheses aired in public will only **** off the people trying to help you, and make you look bad in the end.

Tem120

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As for chris sofar he found a cracked plastic elbow leading to the heater core . This could be a coolant leak , it wasnt there before. as I checked that area multiple times .

But it could of developped recently maybe thats the reason coolant was leaking out ... but I have my doubts as I would of noticed it and it still does not explain compression escaping into the coolant system.

Tem120

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Apparently it is , as that is what was requested of me . if you notice I left this thread in the dead . I even contacted mamba and asked him to let it go because I did not want any of this drama .

BLACK MAMBA

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Just to make things clear Newby, my car was 90% built by my, and didnt needed my dad to tell me that the car was overheating, also my car was running fine for 2 years before i decided to switch fuel rails, and thats when it cought on fire, but not because my fault, thats why im getting all the parts that were damaged replaced free of charge over 4k dollars, i can troubleshoot my own car unlike you i being dealing with rotary over 23 years.

I dont need to open threads asking the stupid questions like you do.

If i built a Dyno Queen thats my problem, im sure you wish you could do the same.

Now building a new dyno queen 750-800 hp, lol.

Tem120

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Congrats . on your new build . 750-800 hp and you wouldnt be able to beat me on a track .with my 300 hp .

yes , you're right I am a newbie as you tried to call me .

And yes learning is obviously a sin in your eyes.

you got 4k worth in parts because of a defective part , but I'm suddenly some badguy because I want a running engine that I spent 6 months saving up for

I'm not after some monster .. all I wanted was a reliable engine that I could start and drive where ever I want to .. thats all I needed . and that is what I'm hoping to get.

No , I would never trade my car for yours .. because me and my father built This car from scraps. to some people that is more important then a pretty paint job or some dyno sheet.

but like I told you in the PM , please dont confuse my inexperience with stupidity.

BLACK MAMBA

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[QUOTE=Tem120;11638486]Congrats . on your new build . 750-800 hp and you wouldnt be able to beat me on a track .with my 300 hp .

yes , you're right I am a newbie as you tried to call me .

And yes learning is obviously a sin in your eyes.

you got 4k worth in parts because of a defective part , but I'm suddenly some badguy because I want a running engine that I spent 6 months saving up for

I'm not after some monster .. all I wanted was a reliable engine that I could start and drive where ever I want to .. thats all I needed . and that is what I'm hoping to get.

No , I would never trade my car for yours .. because me and my father built it from scraps.[/

Papy keep dreaming, because thats all you going to be able to do.

I want to see your car beat my Dyno Queen any day, let me know when your ready, ill even go N/A.

Tem120

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[QUOTE=BLACK MAMBA;11638503]
sir , are you sure you really wanna go there? because I will call you out on this . when the bugs or issues with the motor are fixed.. oh thats right yours is still being built. I guess we'll have to wait till you finish .. but I wont forget ! i'll stalk your build thread just to see when you finish.

Tem120

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Just to clarify I said TRACK , not drag strip .. I mean something with turns like an auto cross track ....

cr7684

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Wow this is out of control, I posted the update to show that the issues are being looked into.

Luis as a favor for me just let this go please.

Erik I been updating you on your car, you may have your doubts and that's fine but so do I.
As I said over & over the issues will be fixed, before we go jumping the gun to why, how or what's the cause. Let me find out first please Erik thank you.

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Tem120

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I rather be wrong.. I would like nothing more then to be wrong.

NoPis10

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I think Chris, the engine builder, was updating the thread since the OP started a thread that made him sound like a bad engine builder , in an indirect manner.

I personaly feel that the engine builder should post his findings as we all know there are 2 sides to every story. If he is being put out there with someone questioning his work then by all means he should defend himself. I do however feel that the DRAMA needs to stay away and things should be kept professional.

With that being said, the OP should also update the thread with CORRECT info from their findings so far. He is quick to question the motor build but doesn't post his mistakes that could have caused the motor failure IF it is a motor failure,
By doing so, the OP would gain ALOT more respect and credibilty.

REMEMBER, we DO NOT walk on water and mistakes are part of being human.


L8R

Tem120

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I agree with everything you've said except for this when the car started to get hot the first time I immediately shut it off it happened when the car was in my driveway .

Yes the car did get hot 106C which is hotter then i'd ever had the car . But the OEM temp gauge was still in the middle . it hadn't gotten to the critical point just yet. when I shut the car off the temps raised to 111 I left the fans on and quickly added the water that had somehow magically dissapeared

But before this all happened the car was spewing water out of the coolant reservoir every time I cranked the car . so somehow pressure was building up in the coolant system when the thermostat should of been closed .

I checked for leaks everywhere when the car was running and did not find anything substantial . after it warmed up the car would not do this

I replaced both the radiator cap and thermostat , nothing changed

All this happened in the span of 4 days

no white smoke But when ever I finally managed to start the car there was a big wet spot out of the exhaust I took a picture I will upload it and show it .


So I started to think what could be causing pressure to escape into the coolant system , and what could be causing my hard start issues...

if its something else besides this that makes you think i ruined the motor I would sure like to hear about it .

cr7684

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Erik it could be a bad coolant wall on the plate.

There was a few times you text me about a coolant leak, but you were unsure of the location. But none of this really matters is the point I been trying to get across cause I have your car & I am going over it.

I can see if you told me about the issues you we're having & I was nowhere to be found. That would make anyone think "where's the builder" !?

I have been with you from first start up & helped you workout tons of issues, mind you that had nothing to do with the engine build. But where is this info of that on here?! Like I told you I have nothing to hide but if your going to tell a story & going to only give parts of that story, it becomes misleading and I feel that's not a way of thanking me for all the extra help I gave & continue to give.

No drama here & no hard feelings at all, but let's be real here. Forums can be used for good & bad and time it was used in the wrong way IMO.

Chris.

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Tem120

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this to ....

I did tell you about the overflowing coolant from the reservoir and you asked if i had over filled it . I said I might of . so that could be the issue , But it was strange that it happened only when cranking , and you said the cap may be bad . so I replaced everything

I still am not sure as to what the issue is.. and I'm not blaming you ... for all I know there was a defective coolant gasket .

But you have known me long enough to know that I am very cautious specially with the car. and the new motor .. and the very first time the car started to overheat I msg'd you instantly and let you know . I told you there had been coolant in the flood But I did not know where from . so I looked all over the place and could only find a minor leak from the firewall . I tightened the clamp and no more leak . But again when the car was cold and I cranked it it would not start , and I heard coolant sloshing m I went out and I saw coolant on the floor again , I used my dad to check where the coolant was comming from . while I cranked .. I had suspected it was from the reservoir but I couldnt wrap my head around why ..

Tem120

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this is what it looked like after every startup.

cr7684

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There are too many variables here and that's the problem with doing a short block built.

Was the system burped?
Was there any coolant leaks?
Is the radiator clogged?
Is the heater core leaking?
Is the thermostat stuck?
Is the cap leaking pressure?

Does the car have a water pump Idler to help with the belt tension?

Yes you made me aware of the temps after-the-fact we fixed the fuel injectors issue. You were unsure what it was & replaced the cap & thermostat, only to return the parts back to the auto parts store.

So with all that said it's not that easy to just say it's this or it's that, without me going over the car. This is what i am going to do!

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BLACK MAMBA

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Has this car had a coolant pressure test done?


Coolant overflowing out of the reservoir, doesn't automatically means bad coolant seals.


Is the car smoking when cold start ?


Reason I ask is because I bought my car pretty cheap because the previous owner was told by a reputable shop that the engine had a coolant seal leak, but after some troubleshooting, and some parts like thermostat, hoses getting replaced I found that it was a bad heater core that was leaking under the carpet passanger side, carpet didn't feel wet because of the heavy foam padding under it.

99% of the time when you have bad coolant seals the car will smoke on cold start.

cr7684

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No not yet but I ask Erik if the heater core is bad. He said no I have a few test to do.

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Moar!

Tem120

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heater core is new ish . it was refurbished by eagle A/C before it was placed in the car . no leaks come form it from inside the car .

i really have no other way of testing to see if its good or not . But as of now its been bypassed in order to make sure

djseven

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Builder have pics of pressure testing the coolant system on the short block? That would pretty much clear up if it was a build issue or issue caused after install.