125 pound 1.3L rotary capable of 400hp
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125 pound 1.3L rotary capable of 400hp
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Just imagine a 125lb, 1300cc all aluminum rotary with electric intake valves for port timing. And say a mear 100lbs of torque at 1800 rpm? Then double everyting on output witha 10psi from a turbo.....................can ya dig????
Testing so far in the sled format:
-300grams of weight
-6500RPM
-miser on fuel and minimal if any smoke (burns two stroke oil, no sump)
-1.6:1 gear case ratio is too short.
-300grams of weight
-6500RPM
-miser on fuel and minimal if any smoke (burns two stroke oil, no sump)
-1.6:1 gear case ratio is too short.
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Is that a real 1.3 liter or is that 1.3 liters the way Mazda rates it?
Also, some white papers and explanations about the way the motor is made and how the valvetrain would be nice. As it is it just looks like a two rotor with a funky intake and a turbo I cant see.
Any FACTS or whitepapers behind this? It just smells fishy like that rotary/piston thing that has never run under its own power (but has on compressed air) or the quasiturbine that can only power a gokart.
Also, some white papers and explanations about the way the motor is made and how the valvetrain would be nice. As it is it just looks like a two rotor with a funky intake and a turbo I cant see.
Any FACTS or whitepapers behind this? It just smells fishy like that rotary/piston thing that has never run under its own power (but has on compressed air) or the quasiturbine that can only power a gokart.
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Originally Posted by Nihilanthic
Any FACTS or whitepapers behind this? It just smells fishy like that rotary/piston thing that has never run under its own power (but has on compressed air) or the quasiturbine that can only power a gokart.
You have all the facts that I have. I asked to get some serious data sheets on it and they sad the manufacturer wants to keep that stuff under wraps for now. Asked for pics of the internals, but same thing again.
One fact that I know is a former employee for atkins and mazda is working on the design for this engine.
as far as not moving under its own power, did you not watch the video of it running? It takes power to make those clutches work.
more videos of it moving under its own power:
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...utchtune12.flv
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...lutchtune5.flv
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...lutchtune3.flv
Originally Posted by Sniffle7
so anyone know if it was custom built or something like that?
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Originally Posted by CMonakar
Are the inlet ports and exhaust ports on different sides of the motor???
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
It's air cooled.
WTF are you smoking? Can't you see the fans behind the seat and the coolant hoses coming off of the housings?
NA dyno sheet:
they are currently building a turbo setup to run on the dyno.
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Hey no need to be a dick about it. Does the word "duh" come to mind? No I obviously didn't see any fans or coolant lines coming off of it. If I did it wouldn't have been consistent with my response. Now that I look hard enough, I can just make something out. Tell us then how the ports are configured and why they work where they are then. Explain it. That is assuming that it is the same rotor shape that we have. Air cooled rotaries have ports layed out just like that in the housings and air flows through the housings and rotors which is why I stated that.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Tell us then how the ports are configured and why they work where they are then. Explain it.
The guy I've been talking to about it says that they are currently testing different port configurations to see which will produce the best power in this application. Also told me that maybe in a month or two he will see if he can get me a few pics of the internals.
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This engine, is made by a company called ROTA-MAX. They bought out a company (Freedom Motors) and then made large improvements to it , and has made further development. The engine is all-aluminum, and is also modular design, allowing multi-rotors to be made with only a purchase of a side housing. The intake comes in through the rotor, cooling it in the process, and heating the fuel to very high temps. It then travels into the rotor housing, where it burns very lean, creating ultra clean emissions, and great VE. There is only needle bearings, and next to zero oil pressure, so the oil pump loads are next to zero. Add in it has no waterpump, and even less is being lost. The housings, and rotors, are all cermet, and ceramic coated. Its emissions already are less than even the newest ULEV III levels as well, and its marketed to take over 2-stroke market, and more as it goes. Here is some technical info on it for the white paper lovers-
http://www.rotamax.net/documents/1300ccDimensions.pdf
http://www.rotamax.net/documents/Engine_Brochure.pdf
So, hope that helps explain it more.
http://www.rotamax.net/documents/1300ccDimensions.pdf
http://www.rotamax.net/documents/Engine_Brochure.pdf
So, hope that helps explain it more.
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thats insane. 170hp weighing in at 150lbs...thats crazy. i want to see this thing turbo charged. talk about a motor swap (if possible) to save weight. and by modular u mean that u can just purchase a housing and make a 3 rotor??? or even a 4??
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Originally Posted by Sniffle7
thats insane. 170hp weighing in at 150lbs...thats crazy. i want to see this thing turbo charged. talk about a motor swap (if possible) to save weight. and by modular u mean that u can just purchase a housing and make a 3 rotor??? or even a 4??