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Best year for FC3S?

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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Best year for FC3S?

So let's see what everybody thinks... Take into account least amount of problems, weight, performance, etc...

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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i own a 91, but for some reason, whenever i see '89' i feel like there is more reliability and a better year for an RX-7. First year S5, First year for the GTUs, and just that since it was a new model...well...they spent more time making them right. just my opinion though
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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i would want the newest one, 91, newer is usually better, everything in the car is new and theroretically less likely to break. All the plastic is less aged, rubber is less aged etc..

Also they had 2 previous years to prefect the s5 before this, i'm sure they fixed minor things every year making the car better and better.

I think just about anyone would want an s5 over an s4, more hp and the tail lights are generallly accepted as better...Its like a first gen, why would you want a 100hp 12a base when you could have a 135hp 13B GSL-SE?
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Series 4 88.

Mazda fixed all the little things, that were problems on the 86 (like rear hatch glass attachment, warning cluster, injector impedence, other issues), still had the lightweight german Jack and spare, still had a fast lock up LSD (except on base/SE and 'verts), body was 100-150 lbs lighter than the series 5.

Didn't have the lame mouse belts or air bags, wasn't on the cost crunch that lead to things like engine speed sensing power steering, or fluid type LSD, or tail lights stolen from a mid eighties Ford T-bird all found on the series 5 cars.

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by Icemark
Series 4 88.

Mazda fixed all the little things, that were problems on the 86 (like rear hatch glass attachment, warning cluster, injector impedence, other issues), still had the lightweight german Jack and spare, still had a fast lock up LSD (except on base/SE and 'verts), body was 100-150 lbs lighter than the series 5.

Didn't have the lame mouse belts or air bags, wasn't on the cost crunch that lead to things like engine speed sensing power steering, or fluid type LSD, or tail lights stolen from a mid eighties Ford T-bird found on the series 5 cars.
i second that. but the 86 has no holes for the badges, and fewer wings.

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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...or tail lights stolen from a mid eighties Ford T-bird found on the series 5 cars.
Mazda had been putting four round taillights on their rotary cars way before then. Think 1968 R100, plus the RX-2, RX-3 and RX-4 (sort of). It was a return to form. Plus the round lights have aged much better. The S4 lights look very 80's, whereas round lights are now back in vogue on new cars.

My choice is Series 5. I think the pros outweight the cons.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Icemark
Series 4 88.

Mazda fixed all the little things, that were problems on the 86 (like rear hatch glass attachment, warning cluster, injector impedence, other issues), still had the lightweight german Jack and spare, still had a fast lock up LSD (except on base/SE and 'verts), body was 100-150 lbs lighter than the series 5.

Didn't have the lame mouse belts or air bags, wasn't on the cost crunch that lead to things like engine speed sensing power steering, or fluid type LSD, or tail lights stolen from a mid eighties Ford T-bird found on the series 5 cars.
LOL finally someone sees it too, whenever I see S5 taillights I always think of my dads '87 Thunderbird (in special terd brown).
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:21 PM
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ive have a 91' and i used to have a 87'. the S5 is a much more sporty car, it looks better and performs better compared to my old car(acceleration, braking, handling). the interior is much nicer and overall ive had lfewer problems with my 91'. the only complaint is i have power steering but im gonna swap that out soon to a manual rack. also it doesnt get the best gas milage but who cares about that. complaints about the mouse belts are crap, i like them, they hold me into the seat when im in hard corners better then regular belts soooo eat it, im partial to S5's.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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[ quote ] i would want the newest one, 91, newer is usually better, everything in the car is new and theroretically less likely to break. All the plastic is less aged, rubber is less aged etc..

Also they had 2 previous years to prefect the s5 before this, i'm sure they fixed minor things every year making the car better and better.

I think just about anyone would want an s5 over an s4, more hp and the tail lights are generallly accepted as better...Its like a first gen, why would you want a 100hp 12a base when you could have a 135hp 13B GSL-SE? [quote ]

that makes soo much sense but i still gtg with my yr. 87 first yr of turbo 2 in america wow when it came out on the showroom floor i was soo happy eventhough i was only 3 !!
thatz back hen mike tyson won 16-0 by ko!
without biting earz ! i mean comeon that yr was the **** !
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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Tenth Anniversary.

You just can't beat the special edition


I'm prolly just saying this cuz I have one..

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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What I like about the S5's are that it has 20% more power, & some characteristics of the Turbo II such as differential, etc. I also like the lights, the way how the moldings on the side goes along with the car. I love the FC3S a lot more than the third gen. I guess is because I have one, I am glad for what I have & I enjoy it.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:46 PM
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20% more power, uhm get your facts straight...
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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91 baby ...i've got 2
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Rotary
What I like about the S5's are that it has 20% more power,
HUH???? where are you getting 20%
series 4
Output 146 bhp (net) @6500 RPM
Torque 138 lb-ft @3500 RPM
series 5
Output 160 bhp (net) @7000 RPM
Torque 140 lb-ft @4000 RPM

even the T2

series 4
Output 182 bhp (net) @6500 RPM
Torque 183 lb-ft @3500 RPM
series 5
200 bhp (net) @6500 RPM
Torque 196 lb-ft @3500 RPM

I don't see 20% anywhere there. Maybe you could say 10% on the NA even though torque changes were only about 1 percent between NA FC two series.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:23 AM
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Ive always be partial to 89's. I almost bought an 89 GTU back a few years ago. Right now i have 2 89 t2's.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 01:41 AM
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hehehehe, poll is missing the best year: '92

That's what I got anyway....






PS: and noboby telling me there is no '92. It could have been assembled in '91, but I wouldnt know it
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:30 AM
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Lol Ace, there is NO '92... In my poll. Everyone knows damned well why! :p Does anyone have statistics for the sales records for all 6(ok, 7) years? That'd be interesting to see!

Steve
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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Well, The Ace lives in Greece, so he can buy a 92, us here in the US could only get the 91. I have a 91. I love it. Nothing in the interior is broken, and the body (except for the roof) is in awesome shape!! Newest one, so what can I say?
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by The Ace


PS: and noboby telling me there is no '92. It could have been assembled in '91, but I wouldnt know it
you can find out by looking on the sticker when you open the driver side door...what build date does it list?
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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The only FCs that are truly 92 models were made past 08/01/91.



Note the model year break down on the side of the page from Mazda Japans History of the RX-7 website

Note how there was production of the 'verts way through 92 even after the line had been re-tooled for the FD and had been producing FD models.

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Mark where in the hell do you find these charts?
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by rico05
Mark where in the hell do you find these charts?
That one was from Mazda Japan's ( http://www.mazda.co.jp/home.html ) website on the History of the RX-7 http://www.mazda.co.jp/history/rx7/Java/index.html
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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And I think its funny so many people are voting for the 91. The 91 was the weakest performace model out there.

Almost 0 production on the sport 4 piston brakes, and LSD on NA models. The N/As Had a mish mash of parts left over from production on other years. It is rare to even find a 91 'vert without a lame automatic.

I just don't know what you guys are thinking sometimes???
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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My friend has a black vert with a manual tranny. They aren't all that hard to find. I believe they only came in black and red though during 91. Yeah for some reason I have always been partial to 89's as well. I love the looks of them and all that maybe why I decided to invest in a 89 GXL
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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my 91' has 4 piston brakes...
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