View Poll Results: What was the vintage year for the FC?
1986
39
6.26%
1987
95
15.25%
1988
170
27.29%
1989
97
15.57%
1990
78
12.52%
1991
144
23.11%
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Best year for FC3S?
#51
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Originally posted by jspecracer7
Don't you mean 1989-1991 production...because my title says '92 FD3S
Don't you mean 1989-1991 production...because my title says '92 FD3S
However as far as I have been made aware, the car was only sold in Japan, England, NZ/AUS.
That is why I thought I was clear in posting:
North American Series 5 RX-7 = 1989-1991 production.
Japanese Series 5 RX-7= 1989-1992 production
Japanese Series 5 RX-7= 1989-1992 production
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here is for 86
1986
Base $11,995
Base 2+2 $12,495
GXL $16,645
GXL 2+2 $17,145
Number of Cars Sold 56,243
Weight
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
Manual 5-Speed 2625 lb 2645 lb 2625 lb 2645 lb
Automatic 2695 lb 2715 lb 2695 lb 2715 lb
Exterior Dimensions
Length 168.9 in
Width 66.5 in
Height 49.8 in
Wheelbase 95.7 in
Ground Clearance 5.9 in
Track F / R 57.1 / 56.7
Engine Specs
Engine twin rotor
Displacement 1308 cc/80 cubic inches
Compression Ratio 9.4 : 1
Output 146 bhp (net) @6500 RPM
Torque 138 lb-ft @3500 RPM
Fuel Supply EFI
Fuel Capacity 16.6 US gallons
Drivetrain
Ratios 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th reverse
Manual 5-speed 3.475 2.002 1.366 1.00 0.711 3.493
Automatic 2.841 1.541 1.000 0.720 2.400
Final Drive Ratio 4.100 (5-speed) 3.909 (automatic)
EPA Fuel Economy 17/24 MPG
Steering
Type rack & pinion power rack & pinion
Overall Ratio 20.3 15.2
Turns Lock to Lock 3.5 2.7
Turning Circle 32.2 ft
Suspension
Front Suspension Independant MacPherson strut type with lower A-arm, coil springs and 22mm anti-roll bar (24mm w/sports suspension)
Rear Suspension Independant, Dynamic Tracking Suspension System with trailing arms, Triaxial Floating Hubs, camber control links, coil springs and 12mm anti-roll bar (14mm w/sports suspension)
Brakes
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
Type power assisted
Front Rotors 9.8 inch ventilated 10.9 inch ventiated
Rear Rotors 10.3 inch solid 10.7 inch ventiated
Front Calipers single piston floating 4 piston
Rear Calipers single piston floating
Wheels / Tires
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
Wheels 5.5 x 14 inch styled steel 6.0 x 15 aluminum alloy
Tires 185/70HR14 205/60VR15
Performance
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
0-60 MPH 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8
0-100 MPH 23.7 23.7 23.4 23.4
1/4 Mile 16.2 @86.4 16.2 @86.4 16.2 @86.7 16.2 @86.7
Top speed 128 MPH 128 MPH 132 MPH 132 MPH
1986
Base $11,995
Base 2+2 $12,495
GXL $16,645
GXL 2+2 $17,145
Number of Cars Sold 56,243
Weight
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
Manual 5-Speed 2625 lb 2645 lb 2625 lb 2645 lb
Automatic 2695 lb 2715 lb 2695 lb 2715 lb
Exterior Dimensions
Length 168.9 in
Width 66.5 in
Height 49.8 in
Wheelbase 95.7 in
Ground Clearance 5.9 in
Track F / R 57.1 / 56.7
Engine Specs
Engine twin rotor
Displacement 1308 cc/80 cubic inches
Compression Ratio 9.4 : 1
Output 146 bhp (net) @6500 RPM
Torque 138 lb-ft @3500 RPM
Fuel Supply EFI
Fuel Capacity 16.6 US gallons
Drivetrain
Ratios 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th reverse
Manual 5-speed 3.475 2.002 1.366 1.00 0.711 3.493
Automatic 2.841 1.541 1.000 0.720 2.400
Final Drive Ratio 4.100 (5-speed) 3.909 (automatic)
EPA Fuel Economy 17/24 MPG
Steering
Type rack & pinion power rack & pinion
Overall Ratio 20.3 15.2
Turns Lock to Lock 3.5 2.7
Turning Circle 32.2 ft
Suspension
Front Suspension Independant MacPherson strut type with lower A-arm, coil springs and 22mm anti-roll bar (24mm w/sports suspension)
Rear Suspension Independant, Dynamic Tracking Suspension System with trailing arms, Triaxial Floating Hubs, camber control links, coil springs and 12mm anti-roll bar (14mm w/sports suspension)
Brakes
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
Type power assisted
Front Rotors 9.8 inch ventilated 10.9 inch ventiated
Rear Rotors 10.3 inch solid 10.7 inch ventiated
Front Calipers single piston floating 4 piston
Rear Calipers single piston floating
Wheels / Tires
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
Wheels 5.5 x 14 inch styled steel 6.0 x 15 aluminum alloy
Tires 185/70HR14 205/60VR15
Performance
Model Base Base 2+2 GXL GXL 2+2
0-60 MPH 7.8 7.8 7.8 7.8
0-100 MPH 23.7 23.7 23.4 23.4
1/4 Mile 16.2 @86.4 16.2 @86.4 16.2 @86.7 16.2 @86.7
Top speed 128 MPH 128 MPH 132 MPH 132 MPH
#53
1987 all the way!
I've driven a couple of S5s and I can honestly say they feel way to cushioned for me. They also feel slower than a S4 (I've owned two). So my vote went for '87. I think the S4 Sport looks better than any S5, the tailights too!
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I don't know, I have rode in a couple of older fc's ala...86, 88...and they just don't have that full feeling. They act like they are way too light for their own good. A good fast car....feels like it is stuck to the road and will accelerate like hell. This is where my 89 has it. Shure it feels slower than even FB's but in all truth it feels slower because the air moves easier over it than the later models. So when I am feeling slow and racing I just look over, see his honda *** in my rear veiw, than I know I am going fast. It really is all in preferance and ****. But yeah.
#55
Originally posted by Gefunk
I don't know, I have rode in a couple of older fc's ala...86, 88...and they just don't have that full feeling. They act like they are way too light for their own good..........
I don't know, I have rode in a couple of older fc's ala...86, 88...and they just don't have that full feeling. They act like they are way too light for their own good..........
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Originally posted by CRXMR2RX7
It seems you all are voting for the S5 because its newer.
Newer doesn't =better (all the time)
Just as an example.
I would much rather have a 68' Camaro than a 98' Camaro.
It seems you all are voting for the S5 because its newer.
Newer doesn't =better (all the time)
Just as an example.
I would much rather have a 68' Camaro than a 98' Camaro.
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Originally posted by 1_dollar_83_RX7
Yea, go ahead and get an unrestored 68 and an unrestored 98, the 68 will have like 200k mi and the 98 like 30k mi, Then tell me which one is better.
Yea, go ahead and get an unrestored 68 and an unrestored 98, the 68 will have like 200k mi and the 98 like 30k mi, Then tell me which one is better.
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I think the whole 89-91 line was pretty
About 95% of the ones I see for sale are converts...hardly any turbos.
And where do you think most of the power came from on the S5 turbo....could it be the extra 2 psi they gave it?
Give me the S5 tails a manual boost controller, plus the 150 or so lbs weight savings....then we'll see whats up.
About 95% of the ones I see for sale are converts...hardly any turbos.
And where do you think most of the power came from on the S5 turbo....could it be the extra 2 psi they gave it?
Give me the S5 tails a manual boost controller, plus the 150 or so lbs weight savings....then we'll see whats up.
#66
And since this thread has been ressurected, I'll post again to say that:
- S5 TII with manual gearbox is STILL the best FC out there
- Almost all my problems that I listed in my earlier posts are now gone. Idle is -almost- perfect, turbo is rebuilt, cooling system is also perfect, oil lines still leak , and I still need rear rotors (thinking about Brembo, but havent decided yet).
And you DO know the saying: "never buy a brand new model, wait a couple of years until its new-born faults are fixed". Well, cannt wait any longer than the last cars out of the production line
- S5 TII with manual gearbox is STILL the best FC out there
- Almost all my problems that I listed in my earlier posts are now gone. Idle is -almost- perfect, turbo is rebuilt, cooling system is also perfect, oil lines still leak , and I still need rear rotors (thinking about Brembo, but havent decided yet).
And you DO know the saying: "never buy a brand new model, wait a couple of years until its new-born faults are fixed". Well, cannt wait any longer than the last cars out of the production line
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Here is a table I made when I was really bored a while back. It didn't turn out very good pasting it in from excel, but all of the information is there.
Year Model Weight Engine C/R HP RPM TQ RPM Redline Final Drive Front Brakes Type Rear Brakes Type Econ. LSD
1979 S\GS 2420 1146 9.4:1 100 6000 105 4000 7000 3.909 8.94 V-Di 7.87 F-Dr N
1981 S\GS 2345 1146 9.4:1 100 6000 105 4000 7000 3.909 8.94 V-Di 7.87 F-Dr N
1981 GSL 1146 9.4:1 100 6000 105 4000 7000 3.909 8.94 V-Di 9.29 Disc Y
1984 GSL-SE 2590 1308 9.4:1 135 6000 133 2750 7000 4.076 9.84 V-Di 10.1 Disc 16/23 Y
1986 BASE 2625 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 9.8 V-Di 10.3 Disc 17/24 N
1986 Sport 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 17/24
1986 GXL 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/24 Y
1987 Turbo 2845 1308 8.5:1 182 6500 183 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/23 Y
1988 SE 2625 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 9.8 V-Di 10.3 Disc 17/24 N
1988 GTU 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/24 Y
1988 GXL 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/24 Y
1988 Convert. 3003 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 3.909 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di
1989 GTU 2800 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 9.8 V-Di 10.6 Disc 17/25 N
1989 GTUs 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.3 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 17/25 Y
1989 GXL 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 17/25 N
1989 Convert. 3045 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di
1989 Turbo 1308 9.0:1 200 6500 196 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 16/24 Y
1991 Coupe 2787 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 ? ? ? 17/25
1991 Convert. 3071 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 V-Di 10.3 Disc
1991 Turbo 3003 1308 9.0:1 200 6500 196 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 16/24 Y
1993 Base 2789 1308 9.0:1 255 6500 217 5000 4.1 11.6 V-Di(4P) 11.6 V-Di 17/25 Y
1993 R1 2800 1308 9.0:1 255 6500 217 5000 4.1 11.6 V-Di(4P) 11.6 V-Di 17/25 Y
1993 Touring 2862 1308 9.0:1 255 6500 217 5000 4.1 11.6 V-Di(4P) 11.6 V-Di 17/25 Y
Year Model Weight Engine C/R HP RPM TQ RPM Redline Final Drive Front Brakes Type Rear Brakes Type Econ. LSD
1979 S\GS 2420 1146 9.4:1 100 6000 105 4000 7000 3.909 8.94 V-Di 7.87 F-Dr N
1981 S\GS 2345 1146 9.4:1 100 6000 105 4000 7000 3.909 8.94 V-Di 7.87 F-Dr N
1981 GSL 1146 9.4:1 100 6000 105 4000 7000 3.909 8.94 V-Di 9.29 Disc Y
1984 GSL-SE 2590 1308 9.4:1 135 6000 133 2750 7000 4.076 9.84 V-Di 10.1 Disc 16/23 Y
1986 BASE 2625 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 9.8 V-Di 10.3 Disc 17/24 N
1986 Sport 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 17/24
1986 GXL 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/24 Y
1987 Turbo 2845 1308 8.5:1 182 6500 183 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/23 Y
1988 SE 2625 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 9.8 V-Di 10.3 Disc 17/24 N
1988 GTU 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/24 Y
1988 GXL 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di 17/24 Y
1988 Convert. 3003 1308 9.4:1 146 6500 138 3500 7000 3.909 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.7 V-Di
1989 GTU 2800 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 9.8 V-Di 10.6 Disc 17/25 N
1989 GTUs 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.3 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 17/25 Y
1989 GXL 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 17/25 N
1989 Convert. 3045 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di
1989 Turbo 1308 9.0:1 200 6500 196 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 16/24 Y
1991 Coupe 2787 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 ? ? ? 17/25
1991 Convert. 3071 1308 9.7:1 160 7000 140 4000 8000 4.1 10.9 V-Di 10.3 Disc
1991 Turbo 3003 1308 9.0:1 200 6500 196 3500 7000 4.1 10.9 V-Di(4P) 10.75 V-Di 16/24 Y
1993 Base 2789 1308 9.0:1 255 6500 217 5000 4.1 11.6 V-Di(4P) 11.6 V-Di 17/25 Y
1993 R1 2800 1308 9.0:1 255 6500 217 5000 4.1 11.6 V-Di(4P) 11.6 V-Di 17/25 Y
1993 Touring 2862 1308 9.0:1 255 6500 217 5000 4.1 11.6 V-Di(4P) 11.6 V-Di 17/25 Y
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If couldn't find a weight for that model, so it was blank in my spreadsheet, unfortunately the blanks aren't shown as spaces. The GXL has a 1308 cc engine.
I think the best year of the Second Generation Rx7 is 1989. You get a decent production number of GTUs cars, and the revised turbo on the Turbo cars.
I think the best year of the Second Generation Rx7 is 1989. You get a decent production number of GTUs cars, and the revised turbo on the Turbo cars.
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Isn't it interesting.....
that the two most popular years are the last year for production of each series?
1988 and 1991, each after 2 years of working out the bugs of a revised production series. Coincidence?
1988 and 1991, each after 2 years of working out the bugs of a revised production series. Coincidence?