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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:41 PM
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Oil Catch Can

Has anyone installed an Oil Catch Can, from Cusco or Greddy?
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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Get one from Jegs. They make a nice looking octagonal 1qt piece that's pretty well priced.

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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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What exactly, or rather, how does the oil catch can work? isn't oil inside the engine? Always wondered how this thing work....
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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For a number of reasons, if there weren't a vent in the oil system, it would pressurize and things would get ugly. Normally, the PCV valve takes care of venting this pressure. It routes the aerated oil that this pressure creats into the intake stream so that it gets burned.

If you remove your emissions system, you end up with either one (N/A) or two (TII) vents coming from the engine that will spew oil all over the place. A catchcan, well, catches this oil and stores it so that you can do with it what you please.

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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 04:44 AM
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Well I just bought one from my friend. And technically I don't think its useful for a Rx7 since the engine design is different from pistons which sometimes require them.

I have all my emmissions..and sayign that I install the catch can which hoses should I plug and lead to the catch can?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 06:23 AM
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Cant you just buy those little K&N filters, stick that on the end of a vent line and attach it some where near the bottom, or under the car? Not exactly the most environmentally friendly method I guess. But then again a lot of us arent running cats
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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anyone have pictures of a catch can installed? I too would like to know from where Oil would spew out.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 09:54 PM
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Yea I would too.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by No7Yet
If you remove your emissions system, you end up with either one (N/A) or two (TII) vents coming from the engine that will spew oil all over the place. A catchcan, well, catches this oil and stores it so that you can do with it what you please.
Where do these lines start from? And why doesn't the oil system pressurize the catch can? And how does the oil in the can get back to inside the engine, do you have to manually drain it back into the engine? What happens when the catch can gets full, does the engine overpressure itself then?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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Good questions.

The common oil vent is next to the oil filler neck, down on the intermediate housing. TIIs have an extra one right near the oil filler cap, but that one's not nearly as messy.

A catch can has an open-air vent to relieve pressure at the top, and a drain valve at the bottom, by which it is emptied. The whole idea is that oil added into the intake stream takes the place of fuel and air, and thus reduces hp. So you stop that from happening. Well, and it eliminates complexity. But you also catch the oil in a can so it doesn't make your engine messy. Follow? When the catch can fills up, you just drain it into a drain pan or an empty oil bottle and recycle it. If it overfills, oil spews out the open-air vent at the top, as if you were overfilling any sort of container.

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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 11:56 PM
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Mazda loved that damn oil injection **** didn't they? I guess I see the need for it being that the rotary has lots of metal seals on the rotors and the car wouldn't have appealed to as many people if having to remember to use premix was sales point. But I run premix! But why can't the original vents relieve the pressure? Its exposed to the atmosphere, and it is at the highest point of the engine.

Would a oil pan baffel prevent oil from over pressuring and over flowing?
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 12:17 AM
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If you leave it to be open vented it will make a HUGE mess all over your engine bay. Think of a oil spill in the ocean.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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No it will still be pressurized -Gabe
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:42 AM
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Hmm.. i have never heard of any oil bustin' out from runnin premix. Well, my friend Gabe "Rotorific" has a ******* oil spill in his car, and we cant seem to find out where its at. You guys think its this no catch can ****?

Anyone have a site or pictures that are more specific?

Thanks
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:47 AM
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Ok me and charles just talked about my oil spill it was because of my omp block off plate, ive since then fixed it so disregard what he said hes well uh high -Gabe

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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Guys, please reread what I said. The oil injection system and the PCV system are two completely different things.

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 10:38 PM
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Does anyone have actual pictues of an oil catch can on their car?
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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Yes, this is my car

can should be upright though LOL... just no room.


goes from oil fill vent tube to catch can, to TID




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