?s about oil for my FC (and not the usual ones) :)
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?s about oil for my FC (and not the usual ones) :)
1. I've heard that 'heavier' grades of motor oil help carry heat away from the engine. But the oil in our 7s gets burnt, not circulated, right? Can I expect any kind of cooling benefit from a heavier oil?
2. How far into 'heavier' oils can I stray b4 I start making life harder for the engine? I'm thinking that the heavier the oil, the more carbon and goo (if there's goo) that may be left behind after a cycle. Yeah, I know, high revs and a tank of MMO will knock that crap right out, but I'd like to skip out on causing a sizable carbon/goo bi-product if I can. Make things as easy for the engine as possible.
3. I've also seen it mentioned that 10W40 should be avoided because there's some sort of undesirable additive that is used to get that kind of "split." Would someone elaborate on this? And is this also a concern with 20W50, which I've noticed a # of 7 owners in the southern states use?
And if the answer to question #1 is yes, I'm planning on switching to 20W50 this summer. My girl's running a little hotter than she used to and I'd like to do what I can to give her a break.
Thanx much in advance!
2. How far into 'heavier' oils can I stray b4 I start making life harder for the engine? I'm thinking that the heavier the oil, the more carbon and goo (if there's goo) that may be left behind after a cycle. Yeah, I know, high revs and a tank of MMO will knock that crap right out, but I'd like to skip out on causing a sizable carbon/goo bi-product if I can. Make things as easy for the engine as possible.
3. I've also seen it mentioned that 10W40 should be avoided because there's some sort of undesirable additive that is used to get that kind of "split." Would someone elaborate on this? And is this also a concern with 20W50, which I've noticed a # of 7 owners in the southern states use?
And if the answer to question #1 is yes, I'm planning on switching to 20W50 this summer. My girl's running a little hotter than she used to and I'd like to do what I can to give her a break.

Thanx much in advance!
Re: ?s about oil for my FC (and not the usual ones) :)
Originally posted by Amur_
I've heard that 'heavier' grades of motor oil help carry heat away from the engine. But the oil in our 7s gets burnt, not circulated, right? Can I expect any kind of cooling benefit from a heavier oil?
I've heard that 'heavier' grades of motor oil help carry heat away from the engine. But the oil in our 7s gets burnt, not circulated, right? Can I expect any kind of cooling benefit from a heavier oil?
How far into 'heavier' oils can I stray b4 I start making life harder for the engine?
Re: ?s about oil for my FC (and not the usual ones) :)
Originally posted by Amur_
1. I've heard that 'heavier' grades of motor oil help carry heat away from the engine. But the oil in our 7s gets burnt, not circulated, right? Can I expect any kind of cooling benefit from a heavier oil?
1. I've heard that 'heavier' grades of motor oil help carry heat away from the engine. But the oil in our 7s gets burnt, not circulated, right? Can I expect any kind of cooling benefit from a heavier oil?
2. How far into 'heavier' oils can I stray b4 I start making life harder for the engine? I'm thinking that the heavier the oil, the more carbon and goo (if there's goo) that may be left behind after a cycle. Yeah, I know, high revs and a tank of MMO will knock that crap right out, but I'd like to skip out on causing a sizable carbon/goo bi-product if I can. Make things as easy for the engine as possible.
3. I've also seen it mentioned that 10W40 should be avoided because there's some sort of undesirable additive that is used to get that kind of "split." Would someone elaborate on this? And is this also a concern with 20W50, which I've noticed a # of 7 owners in the southern states use?
http://fc3s-pro.com/TECH/MODS/ENGINE...randweight.htm
The link is at the bottom.
And if the answer to question #1 is yes, I'm planning on switching to 20W50 this summer. My girl's running a little hotter than she used to and I'd like to do what I can to give her a break.
-Ted
Re: ?s about oil for my FC (and not the usual ones) :)
Originally posted by Amur_
3. I've also seen it mentioned that 10W40 should be avoided because there's some sort of undesirable additive that is used to get that kind of "split." Would someone elaborate on this? And is this also a concern with 20W50, which I've noticed a # of 7 owners in the southern states use?
3. I've also seen it mentioned that 10W40 should be avoided because there's some sort of undesirable additive that is used to get that kind of "split." Would someone elaborate on this? And is this also a concern with 20W50, which I've noticed a # of 7 owners in the southern states use?
Toyota has gone so far and refused to warrenty some vehicles that 10W40 or 10W50 oils were used in, in the some parts of the country.
The additive package to get that spread also creates additional ash load, which can lead to deposits and sludge. Some new testing also suggestes that sludge can also be created by mixing different base oils, such as parafin based oils and shale based oils.
Because 20W40 and 20W50 (and 15W50 synthetics) use a higher base oil, the additive package is considerably lower and doesn't have the same concerns that 10W40 would have.
For some additional reading try these:
http://www.motor-oil-bible.com/index-test6.html
http://www.xs11.com/stories/croil96.htm (note this one suggests that Mobil 1 is waste of money and performed no better than any other oil).
http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/oilreport.html
and my favorite:
http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-overview.html
Re: Re: ?s about oil for my FC (and not the usual ones) :)
Originally posted by RETed
I'd recommend inspecting your cooling system.  Staring at the oil system is not a conventional means of troubleshooting cooling problems.  The cooling system is design to primarily cooling the engine down - start there first.
-Ted
I'd recommend inspecting your cooling system.  Staring at the oil system is not a conventional means of troubleshooting cooling problems.  The cooling system is design to primarily cooling the engine down - start there first.
-Ted
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The cooling system is design to primarily cooling the engine down - start there first.
I'm about to throw in a Fiero fan and restore the fan shroud and the panel from beneath the engine (both were left off when they did my engine swap last summer.) Hopefully, this will end the temp issue for me.My curiousity was mostly revolving around questions 2 and 3. Especially 2. Knowing now that a heavier oil will provide superior lubrication is a bonus.
Thank you all for the help!
Originally posted by Amur_
restore the fan shroud and the panel from beneath the engine (both were left off when they did my engine swap last summer.)
restore the fan shroud and the panel from beneath the engine (both were left off when they did my engine swap last summer.)
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Picked up 5 litres of Castrol 20W50 (they didn't have Havoline in that weight.) She's getting an oil change 2 morrow morning (OEM filter.)
Thanx again!
Thanx again!
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