Pics will probably be available when there is something significant to show
I'm just playing devils advocate since I don't have A/C either Even still....whats wrong with having the performance of a super car along with some of the same benefits? Obviously we don't have TCS and all the electronic goodies but my modifying theory has become... What would an exotic car have, sound like, run like? Maybe I'm crazy.

 

TurboII, 13b-re, 60-1, cusco cage and a total of about $15K later. It's still a bucket to me. Why? Because it wasn't fast enough from the factory. I had to make it fast.
LOL.
That's my justification of a bucket for a sports car.

 

Ok I think that's enough off-topic posts for now, dontcha think guys? I'd appreciate it if we kept it relevant to the thread. I really don't feel like going through all the posts and cleaning up the thread...

Thanks
~Ramy

 

IMHO, I'd design it for a car with a/c. I do not run a/c but I can't imagine the changes would be drastic for a non-a/c kit. It'd be easier to design for the a/c and just eliminate characteristics of the kit for non-a/c cars (plug a few holes!) I'd design for battery relocation too to keep the core at a good size.

 

Yep, and sell the battery relocation as an option since some will of course already have relocated their batteries.

 

I for one would prefer NOT to relocate the battery....I don't want no stinkin' battery in my cabin!

The HKS V-mount somehow manages to use a HUGE core AND still keeps a 51R size battery in the engine bay. I always thought that design aspect of that setup was wonderful.

I think I've voted before, but design the system for a/c. Anyone could easily choose to remove the a/c (or not "relocate it") when installing the vmount.

 

Like Ramy has said before, there will be MANY options..Including a battery relocation kit. Since most of us are not starting fresh and already have a lot of the parts needed for the V-mount install there will be a need for options.

If the kit were to utilize A/C the I/C core could be around 24x10 or 11 inches, without A/C the core could be around 24x12....But the battery would need to be relocated. If the I/C core was around 20x10 or 11 it could probably retain a smaller battery and A/C. Going with a smaller I/C core will obviously lower the flow rating, but should still be plenty for a street car.

-Dan

 

Well if you guys want to keep the battery under the hood why not just go with a compact Gell battery like those from Baker precision. You can get one for about $60 and they are half the size of a civic/ integra battery.
Should be more than small enough to stay out of the way.

 

I actually prefer to relocate the battery. I don't want to compromise function for form. And I don't think the cabin is a good spot either. The trunk would be ideal IMO. If this turns out like I have in mind, you'll really LIKE how the battery relocation is. It will be *very* convenient (unlike, say, trying to get a jump through the rear bins lol).

The HKS V-Mount is actually one of the earlier/older designs, and IMO, is not the way to go. There are much better/later designs, which I'm adopting the pros from.

Realistically, it will have to be A/C compatible. But again, we want to make sure that's done in such a fashion that it doesn't interfere w/ performance.

Thanks,
~Ramy

 

Ramy, For saleability, I'd recommend you incorporate the A/C. If I were you, I'd look into the braided A/C line that Aeroquip sells as an aid in getting the condensor where you want it, and not need ing big gaps to run piping through.

p.s., sent you an email about 2 weeks ago on a part... check yer mail!!!

 

Hey Peter...you're right on the money

And re: the emails, I'm getting to 'em...promise.

 

Will this V-mount Be 20b compatible?

 

Juiceh, 20B setups are *highly* variable in their positioning. Subframes, pushing through the firewall, etc etc. So it would be essentially impossible to make a generic V-Mount for 20Bs, as each setup is different.

I can tell you this, however. Of all the 20B setups I've seen w/ V-mounts (all 3 lol), they engine was pushed back 2 - 3 inches until it was practically touching the firewall. In THAT case (or if you move it back through the firewall) there is enough room to fit a decent size core. Otherwise, you essentially have everything sitting forward several inches if you just plop the 20B down w/o moving it back at all, which cramps up your space *considerably,* making a V-mount impractical to impossible.

So the short answer is, will this fit? Maybe. Can we make a custom one for a 20B given the dimensions? Probably

Thanks,
~Ramy

 

^ I kinda figured that. Thanks!

 

Yeah? Don't count your eggs that haven't hatched my friend I don't even know what that means haha. Might want to talk to the fabricator first though my sahn.

 

Of course...that's why I said it's *possible.* I'm not planning on moving to custom projects when we haven't finished our regular V-mount yet!

 

so what kind of IC core are you using?

 

Guys, allow me to clarify something. I don't give in to pressure. I will NOT be releasing ANY information about the setup until the prototype is COMPLETE, and we're ready to proceed. No amount of PMs, emails, or posts will change that. I'm very firm on this. So please be patient until I post an update. Until then, ALL inquiries - regardless if they're in the form of PMs, IMs, emails, or posts - will receive the EXACT same answer: "Please keep an eye on the thread, as i will post an update when an update is available."

Thanks,
~Ramy

 

I'm a spy, if someone pays me enough I'll leak everything like a blown coolant seal

 

I'm the one who's doing the Eng. blue prints for Ramy,... I'll hand them over to the first person to get me an MazdaSpeed R-Spec Hood. ...just don't let Ramy know...

 

 

 

I'm interested in the v-mount kit... as I've been wanting one since I bought my fd... but for a lack of funds I bought a front mount. A/C is over-rated. I like my 2-70 A/C even here in AL.

 

or is there a way to not modify the condensor.. make a v mount that doesnt have any prob with the ac and no modifying of it?

 

It's IMPOSSIBLE to make a v-mount to work with A/C without any modifications. But it is possible to retain A/C and that will be an option with the kit being designed.