j9fd3s

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hi, my wideband finally either packed it in, (or i've got the most efficient engine ever). i would prefer something that is a round gauge, easier to mount for tuning.
other that that what is new/better since i bought my last one in 2005 :P

newtgomez

There are quite a lot of options depending on your ecu. When I was using a Haltech system, I really liked their CAN wideband controller. Paired with a CAN bus gauge by gauge art gave me even more info which was handy. It used a Bosch 4.9 iirc. I've heard that the Ballenger kit is the most reliable, but it's heavily priced. I'm just about to try out an NTK wideband kit on two different cars, but I have no personal experience yet and that uses analog voltage and a square box for AFR numbers. Haltech also now has an NTK based CAN bus wideband kit which might be worth the money but time will tell.
Bosch Motorsport has all of the data for their wideband sensor as well so that helps make a decision on sensor placement and use as well. They have a wideband controller as well, but getting anything Bosch is a chore.

gdub29e

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If you’re running an engine management that doesn’t have the ability to integrate the wideband directly , I’ve been using this kit on both cars with the power fc integrated thru the datalogit. It’s been a solid performer. It has the ability to program outputs and setup other characteristics to your needs. The gauge is dimmable and comes in red or blue ( the red matches the stock fd dash lighting reasonably well). It’s a bosh 4.9 lsu sensor.

https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...-and-o2-sensor

If you sign up for emails they give you a discount code to use which is nice. ( i’m not affiliated with them ) I have heard reports of controller malfunction and sensor malfunction. Most of the sensor malfunction I think comes from improper placement. I can’t speak to the controller. Mine has been working flawlessly since install a few years back.

~ GW

Spider2k

i have a brand new PLX kit i bought from atkins and no longer plan to use it. if you're interested in it let me know. i have a friend using it in two different s2k's alongside hondata(one boosted / one ITB) and hes happy with them.

https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/P...346002719.html

Pete_89T2

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Most likely you just need a new wideband O2 sensor that is compatible with your existing gauge/controller to get it working again. You'll need to check the specifics on your rig, but most of them use a Bosch LSU 4.9 compatible WBO2 sensor. The most common plug & play LSU 4.9 sensor replacement for that is Bosch part #17025, which has the typical D shaped connector, and the longest cable. Other Bosch part numbers have different cable lengths & connectors. A slightly better LSU 4.9 plug & play replacement IMHO for a rotary application is the Bosch part #17212, which is designed for diesel applications and according to its spec sheet, it can withstand higher EGTs, and withstand a more severe mechanical shock/vibration profile than the #17025. It probably will be more tolerant of burning pre-mix too, if it was designed for diesel but that's just a slightly educated guess. The #17212 will accurately measure the same AFR ranges as the #17025, and I'm using one of these with my Link G4+ ECU. Both sensors have the same D shaped connector, but the #17212 has a shorter cable lead than the #17025. You can buy these just about anywhere (google the part #), but I would get mine from a reputable source - lot's of cheap Chinese counterfeit parts out there. Expect to pay in the ballpark of $60~$80 for the real thing from a legit retailer - much less than that and it's probably a fake that may work for a week and then crap out.

j9fd3s

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thanks for the feedback! (and happy holidays). i ended up ordering an NTK 60067 setup. i ended up looking at amazon, and i was surprised at the reviews the sensors were getting, its not great.

so AEM has a couple of options, in the $150-160 range, which is a good price, but the reviews for the cheap one are so bad that i wonder if amazon sells you a genuine part
there is a knockoff AEM, Jelosee or something like that, its the same price (and pics) as the AEM, $150, the robots gave it good marks, but it doesn't look like a human has bought one yet.
the innovate is ~$150, reviews are bad, not really surprised there, my old unit was an innovate and i'm not sure it ever really worked right.
there is an autometer setup too, for $200 it seemed too expensive to bother, but maybe i'm wrong

C. Ludwig

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Of those options, AEM, purchased from a reputable reseller, would be the best choice. They work well but tend to eat sensors at a higher than normal rate.

If you want a good sensor package, the Ballenger AFR500 is the best standalone sensor and display package, hands down.

If you can get away without a display, the Haltech and ECUMaster controllers work great. It’s 2021. Feed the sensor into the ECU and then send the value over CAN to a nice multifunction display.

j9fd3s

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i have a feeling that if you buy an AEM from Amazon you might get a fake. they actually list the fake as well, although its the same money (the robots reviewed it favorably).
like i say the reviews are bad, like its dead out of the box; bad.
so yes reputable reseller is in order for that one, same price too

C. Ludwig

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Not to mention, you should be punched in the dick for buying things like that on Amazon anyway. There are shops all over that support your hobby. Support them.

Howard Coleman

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"If you want a good sensor package, the Ballenger AFR500 is the best standalone sensor and display package, hands down."

totally agree.

Ballenger picked up the NGK AFX when it was discontinued. I have run it since 2013 primarily because it uses the NTK sensor which has always been way better than the Bosch 4.2... don't know about the 4.9. i recently upgraded to the Calibration Grade (NTK) sensor.
Ballenger is in Ohio and has always been wonderful with which to deal.

https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pr...oducts_id/2337

"There are shops all over that support your hobby. Support them."
absolutely 100%