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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by newtgomez
Luckily the Infinity software is easy to play with once you organize everything and have your setting set up right. I know on my Integra it did some weird things, but I would almost bet that if close loop is active, it's probably being over worked like Skeese is saying. PIDs have to be set up just right and the Infinity is very very touchy with it's VE map set up in the way that if it isn't expectionally smoothed out, it will do weird stuff like this. What does your fuel pressure look like and do you have a fuel pulse damper?

Double check your wall wetting table and set up while you're looking through as if you don't have any spare columns next to the zero throttle per second column, it would trigger transient events an unstable AFRs like you're seeing and you'll be chasing your tail for quite a while. My Integra had random variations from zero to ten throttle per second changes because feet aren't precise in holding throttles in one place and caused a similar event.
This is now my next step as I am noticing steady throttle my percentages go slightly up and down triggering to transit conditions where there is extra fuel being added where it shouldn't. Looking at my Throttle rate (different than throttle percentage) there is very similar patterns to the oscillation and I think this is the culprit. I should have noticed this earlier if I read your post clearer. I'll post back with details after I get time to drive it again. I really am questioning the experience of the previous tuner who did all the work prior to the rebuild.
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Originally Posted by wankel88
This is now my next step as I am noticing steady throttle my percentages go slightly up and down triggering to transit conditions where there is extra fuel being added where it shouldn't. Looking at my Throttle rate (different than throttle percentage) there is very similar patterns to the oscillation and I think this is the culprit. I should have noticed this earlier if I read your post clearer. I'll post back with details after I get time to drive it again. I really am questioning the experience of the previous tuner who did all the work prior to the rebuild.
the Haltechs have something called a throttle dead band, its kind of how much movement you have in the TPS before the ecu does anything. i'm sure the AEM has something like that, although i have no idea what they call it, and you might want to make the ecu less sensitive.
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 10:18 AM
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The speed density i know works most of the time for us, but this seems to not favor me. I also read an article that the factory ecu also runs alpha n at lower rates.
one of the things that makes a big port run better is to lower the intake vacuum, and this doesn't play very well with speed density.
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 10:01 PM
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the Haltechs have something called a throttle dead band, its kind of how much movement you have in the TPS before the ecu does anything. i'm sure the AEM has something like that, although i have no idea what they call it, and you might want to make the ecu less sensitive.
I don't see anything about dead band. You set your throttle range via a wizard anytime throttle stops or adjustments to throttle linkages are made. There is a sub menu for idle which you can set inputs where the idle range would be. Ex. Idle below xx% of throttle rate along with xxxx RPM. I think this is what you are talking about when translating languages from ecu's. I could be wrong. I also have filter settings for the tps sensor but that's more for electric noise for smoothness.
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 10:06 AM
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I don't see anything about dead band. You set your throttle range via a wizard anytime throttle stops or adjustments to throttle linkages are made. There is a sub menu for idle which you can set inputs where the idle range would be. Ex. Idle below xx% of throttle rate along with xxxx RPM. I think this is what you are talking about when translating languages from ecu's. I could be wrong. I also have filter settings for the tps sensor but that's more for electric noise for smoothness.
yeah the filter thing is more like what i mean.
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