na or turbo? What do you drift?
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na or turbo? What do you drift?
I was curious as to what people are using. I am pretty happy with NA. I dont have too hard of a time drifting. Granted I get made fun of for running 15s lol.
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im n/a now, and starting to get the hang of it. been trying to get boosted all season but i run into other things i have to buy..
it's sooo annoying watching all the sr'd 240's slide around with a touch of the gas
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haha figured you all were gona say pretty much what I have been feeling. Sadly the local track is pretty much a 2nd gear course unless they let us out on to the oval. However it does suck to see sr guys just build up some boost and start smoking tires.
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I have done both as well
I started out in a NA, I did a lot of stuff to it, rebuild, streetport, racingbeat true dual system
and it was really hard and annoying to watch the 240's guy do it so easy, but i never really thought anything of it untill i actually started going to events
trust me when I say, you will become a 100x better driver for trying to drift a NA then switching to something with boost
I started out in a NA, I did a lot of stuff to it, rebuild, streetport, racingbeat true dual system
and it was really hard and annoying to watch the 240's guy do it so easy, but i never really thought anything of it untill i actually started going to events
trust me when I say, you will become a 100x better driver for trying to drift a NA then switching to something with boost
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+1 to starting n/a
when i first started drifting i was so mad and wanted turbo asap, but now im glad i started n/a after seeing so many deuchebags with a 240 with a rb swap just floor it all day and just spin in circles because they don't have any technique.
when i first started drifting i was so mad and wanted turbo asap, but now im glad i started n/a after seeing so many deuchebags with a 240 with a rb swap just floor it all day and just spin in circles because they don't have any technique.
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One thing you guys need to realize about the 240 guys is that thier weight distribution is WAAAAYYY Different then ours. They dont NEED mad power to get an S chassis sideways. They way the balancing and center of gravity is on those cars makes them have the tendancy to get the rear end to snap out easier then the FC.
The sweet thing about the FC is the way it flows when you get your rear end loose!! 240's, unless with a well tuned suspension, look sloppy and tend to over oversteer.
So my story is this, a Turbo in an FC gives it the ability to get broke loose easier, and keep her loose. The N/A just has a harder time getting the rear end to come out and stay because of the low polar moment. Ill find the thread about Polar moment and post a link or quote it in a new thread.
The sweet thing about the FC is the way it flows when you get your rear end loose!! 240's, unless with a well tuned suspension, look sloppy and tend to over oversteer.
So my story is this, a Turbo in an FC gives it the ability to get broke loose easier, and keep her loose. The N/A just has a harder time getting the rear end to come out and stay because of the low polar moment. Ill find the thread about Polar moment and post a link or quote it in a new thread.
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One thing you guys need to realize about the 240 guys is that thier weight distribution is WAAAAYYY Different then ours. They dont NEED mad power to get an S chassis sideways. They way the balancing and center of gravity is on those cars makes them have the tendancy to get the rear end to snap out easier then the FC.
The sweet thing about the FC is the way it flows when you get your rear end loose!! 240's, unless with a well tuned suspension, look sloppy and tend to over oversteer.
So my story is this, a Turbo in an FC gives it the ability to get broke loose easier, and keep her loose. The N/A just has a harder time getting the rear end to come out and stay because of the low polar moment. Ill find the thread about Polar moment and post a link or quote it in a new thread.
The sweet thing about the FC is the way it flows when you get your rear end loose!! 240's, unless with a well tuned suspension, look sloppy and tend to over oversteer.
So my story is this, a Turbo in an FC gives it the ability to get broke loose easier, and keep her loose. The N/A just has a harder time getting the rear end to come out and stay because of the low polar moment. Ill find the thread about Polar moment and post a link or quote it in a new thread.
i have noticed that once the rear end comes out, it's very slippery. any n/a guys try running without a rear swaybar? john aka "oilcover" (he's not really a member here, probably less than 10 posts) said it makes the car feel more like a 240 and less twitchy.
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it's a good read. i think its in the n/a drifting thread. aanndd fc's look WAY smoother drifting compared to 240's.
i have noticed that once the rear end comes out, it's very slippery. any n/a guys try running without a rear swaybar? john aka "oilcover" (he's not really a member here, probably less than 10 posts) said it makes the car feel more like a 240 and less twitchy.
i have noticed that once the rear end comes out, it's very slippery. any n/a guys try running without a rear swaybar? john aka "oilcover" (he's not really a member here, probably less than 10 posts) said it makes the car feel more like a 240 and less twitchy.
With the FC though you have to go all or nothing I find to keep up the same amount of speed and angle I have to be in more throttle and continually work the wheel, and the start of the drift had to be pretty good if I wanted to make it all the way through and use alot more turn in than the s chassis. ON the 240 i could just turn out and back in quick to upset the balance to get going at a lower speed then just apply enough throttle to keep the tire speed up. On the FC I can do the same thing but it takes it a lil bit more to get it going and I have to apply power alot sooner also. normally on the cut back I get in the gas with the FC like as soon as I cut my wheel back into the curve the 240 I could wait until I had already turned the wheel.
The fb is a blast though and I think I like it NA, it feels like you could conquer the world lol. Just go in fast let off at the entrance, turn in and mash the gas and you'll go around, but then halfway through you loose some speed and you say damn you 12a and you swap in a ported 13b...or is that just me.
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it's a good read. i think its in the n/a drifting thread. aanndd fc's look WAY smoother drifting compared to 240's.
i have noticed that once the rear end comes out, it's very slippery. any n/a guys try running without a rear swaybar? john aka "oilcover" (he's not really a member here, probably less than 10 posts) said it makes the car feel more like a 240 and less twitchy.
i have noticed that once the rear end comes out, it's very slippery. any n/a guys try running without a rear swaybar? john aka "oilcover" (he's not really a member here, probably less than 10 posts) said it makes the car feel more like a 240 and less twitchy.
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What are you guys talking about 240's look awesome when drifting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upAj0vo2Jrw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upAj0vo2Jrw
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at my last event a guy who's been helping me out told me my ***** have gotten a lot bigger since i started lol
you really do have to go ***** out with the FC, and it does seem to me like if i get a good entry im solid throughout the corner.
+1 wtf honda suspension..
you really do have to go ***** out with the FC, and it does seem to me like if i get a good entry im solid throughout the corner.
+1 wtf honda suspension..
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I wish I still had some vids from when i first started they were good for a laugh or 2.
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it took me driving all platforms sideways, to figure out how unique the fc was....
at first it was just taken for granted, and i didnt understand that the fc needed constant steering imput.... i drove ae86's, and was killing em, older mr2's, and all s chassis... i was sliding em like no ones buisness. then i hopped back in the fc, and it became way more clear to me. only thing i couldnt do in the fc was chokie's, i would get 2 motions in, and be going toooo fast, and the third i usually spun. couple of weeks ago, i was chok'n a s13, and ****** was goin for days. so when i get the fc back, i will see what i can make it happen.
at first it was just taken for granted, and i didnt understand that the fc needed constant steering imput.... i drove ae86's, and was killing em, older mr2's, and all s chassis... i was sliding em like no ones buisness. then i hopped back in the fc, and it became way more clear to me. only thing i couldnt do in the fc was chokie's, i would get 2 motions in, and be going toooo fast, and the third i usually spun. couple of weeks ago, i was chok'n a s13, and ****** was goin for days. so when i get the fc back, i will see what i can make it happen.
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Do you slide up the track a good bit right after you start sliding, this was a problem for me wen I moved from the fc to the s chassis and then back to the fc again. I got a lil better through that time and kept upping my entry speed and found that I could enter lower than the 240 but I would slide up track much more quickly. Now that I am out of practice though i couldnt tell you how it is now.
I wish I still had some vids from when i first started they were good for a laugh or 2.
I wish I still had some vids from when i first started they were good for a laugh or 2.
this is what was happening with power over..
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The entry is really the most important part. Mess that up and the rest of the drift looks akword. The heavy feint I used to get my carolla sideways was probably the only reason I was able to establish anything you could consider a drift through the rest of the turn. The car was a stock 86 carolla sr5 with a cracked head, bad ring and pinion and a welded rear but I muscled that thing like there was no tomorrow. The turn was a fast reducing radius right hand sweeper.
(note the front pass tire off the ground after the transition in the second pic.)
Here's a video, although it only works on certain computers and I lost the original.
Here's another although it's a much worse run. Notice the entry.
(note the front pass tire off the ground after the transition in the second pic.)
Here's a video, although it only works on certain computers and I lost the original.
Here's another although it's a much worse run. Notice the entry.
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it took me driving all platforms sideways, to figure out how unique the fc was....
at first it was just taken for granted, and i didnt understand that the fc needed constant steering imput.... i drove ae86's, and was killing em, older mr2's, and all s chassis... i was sliding em like no ones buisness. then i hopped back in the fc, and it became way more clear to me. only thing i couldnt do in the fc was chokie's, i would get 2 motions in, and be going toooo fast, and the third i usually spun. couple of weeks ago, i was chok'n a s13, and ****** was goin for days. so when i get the fc back, i will see what i can make it happen.
at first it was just taken for granted, and i didnt understand that the fc needed constant steering imput.... i drove ae86's, and was killing em, older mr2's, and all s chassis... i was sliding em like no ones buisness. then i hopped back in the fc, and it became way more clear to me. only thing i couldnt do in the fc was chokie's, i would get 2 motions in, and be going toooo fast, and the third i usually spun. couple of weeks ago, i was chok'n a s13, and ****** was goin for days. so when i get the fc back, i will see what i can make it happen.
Also bitches dont know bout my old 240
RB24 **** YA
steelies FTMFW, pics and vid are almost 2 years old, I am going to try and see if one of my buddies has a vid of me sliding around in a parking lot a while back
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basically what this guy is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqv45...eature=related
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choki-dori's, mongies, feint motion.. whatever you want to call it.
basically what this guy is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqv45...eature=related
basically what this guy is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqv45...eature=related
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choki-dori's, mongies, feint motion.. whatever you want to call it.
basically what this guy is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqv45...eature=related
basically what this guy is doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqv45...eature=related
you're not allowed to rep the west coast if you're gonna talk like that..
and this is the best example of manji-ing youtube has to offer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjaxez9OIX8