revox7

iTrader: (17)

ive been wanting to get rid of my powersteering to clean up my engine bay id like to get a manual rack but from what ive heard powersteering is better for drifting ive always had powersteering and never had a problem drifting with it, my buddies with manual racks say that you feel the car control better?? any input would be great

Vell

Hi,

I don't think that I will help you a lot, but we can read some of these testimonials everywhere : pros, cons, but the only thing I can assure you is that the driver makes the difference.

It's worth a try, better than 10 pages of "yeah it rocks like mine" and "no way you're dumb".

All about your feeling, your own preferences and your style.

10thslydur

iTrader: (3)

I always had p/s to and I was gonna go manual but started to think with all the camber and the nodded nucks it would
make it even harder to turn at slower speeds but jus food for tho I still might do it or do electric p/s going electric will clean your bay up too

revox7

iTrader: (17)

^^
hmmm interesting!!! and where would i get this electric powersteering???

89gtuslider

off a toyota mr2 the power steering pump is electric

revox7

iTrader: (17)

Fer sure ill look into getting one aw11 or the sw20??

pat.feehily

drifting without power steering (unless in a corolla, which is debatable imo) is the worst idea, ever. Im sure anyone here with a half decent amount of time driving will say the same thing.
There is nothing to gain from removing your p/s in a car that you plan to drift unless you dont really like being able to control your car completely.

I would try a remote electric pump (as other mentioned) at the very least if you main concern is just cleaning up your engine bay.

FelixIsGod29X

iTrader: (50)

Mad mikes 4 rotor FD has a manual rack. I prefer manual rack because it just feels damn good. I would only use a power steering rack in a FC if the car was going to be a drift car only IMO.

Digi7ech

iTrader: (1)

Been drifting manual for the last two years. It's hard at first but now it's easy.

Only issue I have is wrist strain after 4+ hours of drifting.

I'm actually switching to a depowered S4 TII PS rack soon. I just have to gut it first.
It will give me a better ratio. Then some knuckle mods and I'll be golden.

10thslydur

iTrader: (3)

I'll probably run a Subaru or sw20, or if I feel like spending major doe ill go with a krc pump

Zerkster

iTrader: (22)

never drifted my FC without PS, but I did slide an Sr S13 without and it was a workout. At complete lock it felt as if the steering would bind, it took everything I had to pull it off. But then again that was an s13 not an Fc, I donno. It wont be 100% the same but try pulling your PS belt one day and see how you like it

revox7

iTrader: (17)

Well I was finally able to drift in my buddies manual racked fc and there was nothin to it, I mean yeah it felt different, like the car reacted to any small amount of steering I threw at it, the steering wheel slightly jerked when I hit a bump but nothing too major

Vell

You see. Always pros & cons with some folks and others posts with interesting things.

Just try to find what is the best for you ...

airquin23

iTrader: (8)

I slide mine with a manual rack also. All personal preference and a lil getting used to if going to manual rack. Depowering your power rack is shitty in my opinion besides the steering ratio...

funkjaw

iTrader: (3)

I have had manual, depowered, and PS.

I love power steering the best. It is like cheating. It makes everything easier from daily driving to drifting to dangerous canyon racing at 1 in the morning. I have no problem pushing a car to its limit without the "feel" of a manual rack.

Just my opinion. I am also a skinny short dude (for a white guy) so physically it is easier for me as well having power steering. I currently DD and track a manual rack. Can't wait to put power steering on it.

revox7

iTrader: (17)

ill trade ya my full ps setup for your manual rack

juicyjosh

iTrader: (29)

There's trade offs between ps and a manual rack.

With a manual rack, you'll get more direct steering feel, but steering will require more effort, which isn't a big deal if you're a guy with at least moderate shoulder strength. But it's one of those things that some people will end up hating after a few minutes.

As far engine performance, you won't feel a difference in power by not driving the ps pump. If you'd like to know what manual steering is like, turn the key to ACC and turn the wheels back and forth a few times to simulate a parking situation. Then try coasting (engine off, safe environment) and steering, as it's easier to turn the wheels with the car rolling. It's not terrible. It's a matter of preference.

However for some of us, our daily-driven cars are already pretty hardcore street race cars, and anything more towards that end would just be too much.

revox7

iTrader: (17)

well thats exactly what i noticed while driving my buddies fc it was hard to turn while standing still but it wasnt like " OH MY GOD IM GONNA DIE CUZ ITS TOO HARD TO STEER"

ilia

iTrader: (4)

It seems like manual rack would make it much harder to throw the wheel really hard, which would make it really hard to make the car transition really fast, which sounds like a bad thing.

Why give yourself the extra handicap? And who cares about steering feel when you're drifting?

revox7

iTrader: (17)

I dont think theres much of a difference when transitioning but ima swap to manual and find out myself

lonetlan

Manual steering at full-lock, for me, has a point at which I would feel as though I can't pull it back to transition; but, its a mind game. Because I can; after the transition to the next slide, I have to assist my steering wheel a little bit to get it were I need it. I like to say that it is more precise, in that I have to go through the run in my head beforehand, or I'll spin out, or not get too much angle to stay on my line. There is room for error, but I can really feel when I've given it too much, or too little.

Keep in mind: I'm new, I don't talk drift slang(if it's real), I'm in a S4 N/A with 190,xxx miles, I hope I helped.

10thslydur

iTrader: (3)

I have a brand new Factory manual rack if anybody wants it

revox7

iTrader: (17)

Im inteeested if your local

10thslydur

iTrader: (3)

im up in monterey but i might be down in san dimas in about a week or soo i can bring it with me

Digi7ech

iTrader: (1)

A proper de-powered rack should be pretty good. Most people unbolt the lines and go. The right way is to crack it open and gut it.