Manual rack vs power steering
05-08-10, 11:31 AM
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ok, now go put the car sideways at 60-90 mph preferably with wall next to you for a few hours and report back on how it feels.
05-08-10, 11:03 PM
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pretty sure it means man up. lol. if you've got decent upper arm strength, manual isn't terrible. run what you got!if power steering breaks, depower it and run it either until you fix it or just leave it depowered. if you got a manual rack then run it and be happy you have something to drift. you can get used to anything.
05-09-10, 03:11 PM
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With knuckles and proper caster (for LESS steering effort) this could work.
Every time i pop my hood and see a big *** power steering pump and ac thing i want to just gut the **** out.
I've pulled one off of a rex before. **** is heavy and takes up soo much space. MR2 pump soon....... Can't daily without ac in a black car. my man sweat will stain my pretty seat up....
Every time i pop my hood and see a big *** power steering pump and ac thing i want to just gut the **** out.
I've pulled one off of a rex before. **** is heavy and takes up soo much space. MR2 pump soon....... Can't daily without ac in a black car. my man sweat will stain my pretty seat up....
05-10-10, 12:18 AM
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if any of you who are thinking of removing your power steering feel like getting to this point... I would advise that you pay attention to that hand full of people who actually know what they are talking about from experience.
or not, either way.
05-10-10, 12:55 PM
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Kinda funny here. I've been to a "drift off" at our local Firebird Raceway, and each "race" only lasted maybe 20-30 seconds. And about an hour apart for about 5 hours. So let's be honest here and state that if you can't work your car for 150 secs w/o power steering, maybe a little time in a gym would be a good Rx.
In my previous racing adventure, I would spend hours in the desert with no power steering going from one corner to the next. WOT for minutes, and shifting many, many times. Average 250 miler was about 3-5 hours, non stop. Spent an entire night driving non stop. Pee'd in my seat a few times.
no time for whiners or girly men...
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05-10-10, 01:34 PM
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Sounds like you've never actually drifted a car, and are speaking from unrelated experience.
Seriously, there's not several right answers to this question. Look at ANY FC drift car that's doing well at all. It'll have power steering.
I mean, I guess on a personal level I don't give a **** what people do. If you don't want power steering, go get rid of it and go drifting. More power to you and all that.
I'm just saying I've drifted without power steering, and it was horrible. I will never allow my car to not have power steering.
Seriously, there's not several right answers to this question. Look at ANY FC drift car that's doing well at all. It'll have power steering.
I mean, I guess on a personal level I don't give a **** what people do. If you don't want power steering, go get rid of it and go drifting. More power to you and all that.
I'm just saying I've drifted without power steering, and it was horrible. I will never allow my car to not have power steering.
05-11-10, 06:22 PM
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Sounds like you've never actually drifted a car, and are speaking from unrelated experience.
Seriously, there's not several right answers to this question. Look at ANY FC drift car that's doing well at all. It'll have power steering.
I mean, I guess on a personal level I don't give a **** what people do. If you don't want power steering, go get rid of it and go drifting. More power to you and all that.
I'm just saying I've drifted without power steering, and it was horrible. I will never allow my car to not have power steering.
Seriously, there's not several right answers to this question. Look at ANY FC drift car that's doing well at all. It'll have power steering.
I mean, I guess on a personal level I don't give a **** what people do. If you don't want power steering, go get rid of it and go drifting. More power to you and all that.
I'm just saying I've drifted without power steering, and it was horrible. I will never allow my car to not have power steering.
Hardly. I was "drifting " on asphalt before it was a sport. And on clay only turning left. But that was called dirt track. So there is hardly anythiing 'new' anymore. The off-road stuff is one long 3 hour drift as you never really have traction, and are never straight. Maybe you should try it sometime. It may not be for you because you perspire alot as it takes place in a desert with no crowds.
I try to have an open mind to other ideas and activities that may help me in what I like to do. You can always learn something as nothing is really "invented here."
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05-12-10, 12:28 PM
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Just because this thread is getting pretty dumb, here's some old crappy videos showing how incredibly hard it is to drive with a manual rack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7kC179bk0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK62e0xYOAY
j/k
It's just different. It's not right or wrong. It's just personal preference. It doesn't affect how the car transitions, handles, or anything else. It only affects what the driver feels. One day I might put power steering in my car, I might not, who knows?
I know it's rx7club, but you guys are ridiculous haha.
I also run 17x9 -3 wheels and 235-40 tires up front, and -3.5 camber, and some pretty seriously cut knuckles. I'm also not strong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7kC179bk0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK62e0xYOAY
j/k
It's just different. It's not right or wrong. It's just personal preference. It doesn't affect how the car transitions, handles, or anything else. It only affects what the driver feels. One day I might put power steering in my car, I might not, who knows?
I know it's rx7club, but you guys are ridiculous haha.
I also run 17x9 -3 wheels and 235-40 tires up front, and -3.5 camber, and some pretty seriously cut knuckles. I'm also not strong.
05-12-10, 09:43 PM
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Thread got serious somewhere when dude popped off on ilia and talked about pissing in his seat a "few" times. I'd like to think that sounds cool but it sounds alot like redneck to me. Bogans for you aus/nz peeps.
Well, i dont know. I haven't tried it. Have you? It's just a theory i had. You can argue if you'd like. I'm learning about things like corner balancing, neutral steer, polar movement and crap extensively and how certain adjustments/settings can make the car behave exactly how you want it to using the input that feels best to you. Jedi mind tricks ****. It's not super important unless you make it so.
Well, i dont know. I haven't tried it. Have you? It's just a theory i had. You can argue if you'd like. I'm learning about things like corner balancing, neutral steer, polar movement and crap extensively and how certain adjustments/settings can make the car behave exactly how you want it to using the input that feels best to you. Jedi mind tricks ****. It's not super important unless you make it so.
