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Old 02-02-10, 05:29 PM
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Lets talk turbos

So Ill be comin out this season with a decent upgrade on some things.. as you can see by my other thread my steering etc, is what im currently just starting to work on...

I have some final things that need finished on my engine side of things first.. I cannot decide on a turbo for my setup..

Rtek 1.7 ECU
Stock 550's Primary
RC 750's on the secondary
255 Walb.
Parallel Fuel setup exact one recommended on FC3s PRO
Greddy Cast Manifold (T4 Flange) Ready for external Waste Gate...
KEPT the OMP (rebuilt the lines)
Emissions Omitted..

So what would be your recommendations for my setup for a turbo specifically for drifting! Its main purpose is drifting.... I dont need it for a daily, but would like to take it out once in a while just to enjoy keep that SLIGHTLY in mind too...
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I'm guessing you want throttle response with power to spin some wide tires when you want them to spin yet dont want to be bored as **** stoplight to stoplight if you want to take the thing out for a date (in any case, i'd opt for road head and forget completely about boost).

Been reading that t04s 60-1 1.00a/r hotside is highly streetable and has a very good powerband. If i were to choose a turbo for my car, that's what i'd pick.

http://www.turbocharged.com/catalog/compmaps/fig9.html Can pick them up used for around $500 and new for $799 and up.
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60 trim t04e on s5 hotside hybrid. but you wont be able to do much more on stock primaries and 750 secondaries.
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If you're going for mild power... I'd say a Borg Warner/Bullseye S362...

If you want a little more... BW/Bullsey S366...

Both are solid turbos, can take the heat generated, and the abuse...

Awesome turbo for the money... and for drifting.
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Originally Posted by NoPistons!
I'm guessing you want throttle response with power to spin some wide tires when you want them to spin yet dont want to be bored as **** stoplight to stoplight if you want to take the thing out for a date (in any case, i'd opt for road head and forget completely about boost).

Been reading that t04s 60-1 1.00a/r hotside is highly streetable and has a very good powerband. If i were to choose a turbo for my car, that's what i'd pick.

http://www.turbocharged.com/catalog/compmaps/fig9.html Can pick them up used for around $500 and new for $799 and up.
LOL thanks for the info! I gotta wife... road head stopped a LONG time ago! LOL
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Originally Posted by davedge
If you're going for mild power... I'd say a Borg Warner/Bullseye S362...

If you want a little more... BW/Bullsey S366...

Both are solid turbos, can take the heat generated, and the abuse...

Awesome turbo for the money... and for drifting.
Ive heard the same information so this must be good information!
Im gonna look into them and start researching

THANKS!
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+1 TO4E... or any 60+mm turbo.

i have a Turbonetics 72mm thats a bit oversized for stock ports but i was a deal i couldnt pass up. its gonna lag but really who drifts under 5,000 rpms any way???

also you only have 550's and 720's, and a Rtek... youre not gonna get much power outta that ecu. Get a haltech so you can get some 720's all around and tune it till you run outta fuel.


T04E is the way to go
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Originally Posted by Zenki FC3S
so you can get some 1200's all around and tune it till you run outta fuel.

Fixed that for you.

720s are for poor people
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do they make 1200cc's???????

no need for that high flowing of an injector to only make 300 hp. Yea they would be usefull for more power later on but you would need a rebuilt engine that could handle that.

720's all around or 720's and 1000's would be more than enough for a T04E or a 60 mm at 300 to 375 hp on a stock motor.



Injector Dynamics has the 720's and 1000's at about $100 each. These are the BEST injectors
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I had 4 720s and a haltech sitting around.

Then oneday i went in the garage and they were on my roommates FC.

Son of a bitch.
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Get your **** running first and on the track before you even think about power.
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Originally Posted by USS CJ
Originally Posted by Zenki FC3S
so you can get some 1200's all around and tune it till you run outta fuel.
Fixed that for you.

720s are for poor people
Idle quality would be terrible with 1200cc primaries unless you were running E85, but then you would need some larger secondaries.
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
Idle quality would be terrible with 1200cc primaries unless you were running E85, but then you would need some larger secondaries.


Oh yeah. Idle quality really matters.
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Good topic and would like to see where it goes.

I just picked up a Holset HX40, 19cm, 8 blade with the 4 inch V-band hot side. (external gate) Its brand new and i practicaly got it for free. It will be interesting to see what it will do.
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Originally Posted by USS CJ
Oh yeah. Idle quality really matters.
Yeah, you're right, just set idle to 5k. You shouldn't be under that in a drift car anyway right?

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I'm running 1000cc's Primary and Secondary... Idle is fine.

Throttle response/tip in is AMAZING.

Jus' Sayin'...
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Originally Posted by davedge
I'm running 1000cc's Primary and Secondary... Idle is fine.

Throttle response/tip in is AMAZING.

Jus' Sayin'...
how much power should 4x1000 be good for ? i was looking at those 1000cc injector dynamics units....
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Originally Posted by vosko
how much power should 4x1000 be good for ? i was looking at those 1000cc injector dynamics units....
I'm thinking you could get up to about 600hp, but I'm not planning on pushing that much boost...

JTP I believe has gone mid 400's with em...

You planning on making more than that?
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
Yeah, you're right, just set idle to 5k. You shouldn't be under that in a drift car anyway right?

yes
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Hey all

I am looking to upgrade the turbo in my FD and I'm kind of lost for what a/r to get. I read that rotaries like larger a/r's so I was looking at a .81-.84...now i'm wondering if that will cause too much backpressure. I'm currently running an Apex-i RX-6B with I don't know what a/r that turbine is. Any advice helps. Thanks.
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whats wrong with the apexi kit ?
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Originally Posted by giggity_gone
Hey all

I am looking to upgrade the turbo in my FD and I'm kind of lost for what a/r to get. I read that rotaries like larger a/r's so I was looking at a .81-.84...now i'm wondering if that will cause too much backpressure. I'm currently running an Apex-i RX-6B with I don't know what a/r that turbine is. Any advice helps. Thanks.
Does it have a serial number?
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Originally Posted by NoPistons!
Does it have a serial number?
It does, I just don't have it handy right now. By the time I'll be getting to the maintenance, I'm planning on having a new charger by then. Pretty much what I'm going for is to see what others have done and the success they have had by it.
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Originally Posted by vosko
whats wrong with the apexi kit ?
Apexi turbo blew the oil ring on the hot side....smokes under boost starting around 5 psi.
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Originally Posted by giggity_gone
Hey all

I am looking to upgrade the turbo in my FD and I'm kind of lost for what a/r to get. I read that rotaries like larger a/r's so I was looking at a .81-.84...now i'm wondering if that will cause too much backpressure. I'm currently running an Apex-i RX-6B with I don't know what a/r that turbine is. Any advice helps. Thanks.
As long as you have the fuel system to support it... a GT35(if you want BB) or as I mentioned earlier, a Bullseye/BW S362 would spool right up... or an S366 if you want more power...


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