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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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Custom tie rods leaking ps fluid

I got some tie rods made up by a local engineering shop for my JC Cosmo. The rack had 14mm of extra movement so i had an extra 14mm of 'spacer' put in to the new tie rods. I could then just put washers outside this 'spacer' area to bring back the bump stop a bit closer to stock, if need be.

Anyway, i put one in to try out, and after the rack moves in a few mm past the stock bump-stop position, power steering fluid starts pissing out of there.

Any ideas what's wrong?

In the picture below, the diameter of that inner moving rack (red) decreases slightly by a mm or 2 at the end where the tie rod connects (orange section). The tie rod 'spacer' diameter (yellow) is the same diameter as the section in orange. Do you think that could be the problem? It should be the same diameter as the red section?




I haven't used tie rods like this before so not really sure where i went wrong
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 04:00 AM
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seems like for some reason, the tierod is not sealing the PS fluid in the rack.. Maybe the thread pitch is off and not the same?

pics of the jc cosmo!?!
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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Yea i'm not sure which section the PS fluid was leaking from, through the threaded section, or from the reduced outer diameter? (thread tape didn't seem to help).

Tried using some washers to bring back the bump-stop position. Now i've something like 4mm of extra lock, maybe a few extra degrees. From what a couple of people have told me it seems that that's as much as i'll get without getting a longer rack. Guess that's all the lock i'm gonna get without modding the knuckles

This is the cosmo i was trying it out on :

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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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dood man, I never knew anybody in this world drifts a jc cosmo. Thats too badass. Didnt they come in automatic? did you do a manual swap on it? Im saving this pic. This car is so win.

Hmm, try thread tape + thread lock? It shouldnt be leaking, something is not right if it is.. why dont you just use your OEM tierods but with tie rod spacers?
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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Hmm will give that a try too then. Yea guess might aswell just get some spacers for stock rods, would be cheaper.

I didn't build the light blue jc, brought it recently pretty much as it looks now. It's using a s5 box.

This is my first cosmo - i've been building for a couple years, probably still won't be done for a few years yet :S. Probably end up stealing a lot of the parts off it and chucking them on the light blue one, such as the tie rods.


(i lost all my pics of attempting to drift that cosmo stock, this is the only one i have left)





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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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I jizzed my pants. HOLY ****! I've never seen that car before. At first glance it looks like an s13 coupe.....which is a good thing.

Grenades look great on your car.

Post in the drifting forum more. Sucks about your ps issue.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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dood too legit 2 quit.. Did you fiberglass your own front bumper right there,? damn so nice. theres alot of videos on youtube that teaches you how to fab bodykits.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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dood what kinda is that? looks like a s13. but then it doesnt...
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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It's a JC Cosmo.

Way better than an s13. 3 rotor turbo! Wow. Again, sick car! Somebody help this guy out! I want to see more from this build/car/owner!

I'd perform sex acts on a consenting corpse for that car! People would say "hey, that's the guy that did the nasty with a dead body". I'd say, "It was your grandmother and it was worth it b/c now i have a car that is better than your car, your friend's cars, the ferrari dealerships' entire fleet.......oh, and the look on your face is priceless."
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dkwasherexd
dood too legit 2 quit.. Did you fiberglass your own front bumper right there,? damn so nice. theres alot of videos on youtube that teaches you how to fab bodykits.
dont say that thats un-legit and that car is sick man they always made me think of the cefiro and a s14 had babies.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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lol thanks. Hopefully finish my degree in a few months n then get back into it, already redoing a few papers thanks to this car build distracting me too much :P

Started off with an s14 facelift kit, i've changed it a few times over. Will probably make moulds when it's done to reproduce the kit as sinlge much lighter pieces.







Brought some loctite type stuff so will try that on the tie rod tonight.

Have another problem now. After reading about fd owners running 18x10 +45 with 285/30's all round, i want to do something similar. Only i'm having trouble finding some suitable rims locally. I picked up some 2nd hand 285/30 pirelli's for something like $30US each, just to try them out for now. I got a pair fitted on the gx01 rim's just to see what it looks like and check offset/clearance.

The grenade gx01's are 18x9 +20 (with 235/40's currently). The other rims in the shots are 17x9.5 +18 koya drift tek's with 235/45 (fit on the rear of the cosmo but still need about another mm of clearance). As you can see from the pic's the tyres look quite ballooned/ugly n sit out about 20mm too far. Can only really get 9.5" rims locally. Drift-teks are cheap, could get a set of 18x9.5 +35 wheels. So i would think that would make the tyre sit further into the car by 15mm, and then maybe pull the guard by 5mm n it could work.

I just wonder whether it's worth the hassle just to jump up in rim width by .5", i prefer the look of the grenade wheels. 10" or 10.5" rims would be nice but they'll either be ugly and heavy, or ill have to get some imported and could be quite expensive.







Any opinions? Go for the 18x9.5 drift teks? Stick with the gx01's n maybe go with 255 tyres?
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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You know how i feel about the grenades. They are WIN.
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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this could wind up so awesome...or so horrible.

on the fence.
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by illdrift
I Anyway, i put one in to try out, and after the rack moves in a few mm past the stock bump-stop position, power steering fluid starts pissing out of there.
Im sure this is based on the design of the rack. There are Orings that seal the rack and when you extended its travel you most likely putting one of the gear teeth on the rack past the oring, and thus there is no seal.
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