Deals gap 2013 what a joke!
04-27-13, 09:30 AM
#26
Zensokuracer wasn't calling phil an ******* becuase he didn't want to pay the $40 bucks, he was calling him an ******* because of the way phil hassled him for one not being registered, then singled him out because he had a beer in his hand, like half of the other people at the event. then told him he would have to ask him to leave without very much explanation, he didn't explain what the waiver was for, and he didn't explain exactly what the registration money was being used for. It honestly just seemed kind of fishy at first, but the point is the demeanor toward our group was like we were criminals or something when we simply just was not sure what was going on because the people who were with us never registered in the past, or it was our first time going to the gap. I was under the impression that registering was optional honestly, i asked a few people about it and they told me we didn't have to register to attend the event. Not everybody lives on the forums though and it obviously wasn't stated clear enough on here or we probably would have pre registered, just so we wouldn't have to deal with the hassling. we weren't trying to be freeloaders by any means, but we definately didnt appreciate how we were treated because we didnt know that we had to register to even attend the event and then not get a clear enough explanation in-person, as to why things are done the way they are. It was a misunderstanding and zensokuracer was singled out for it from what i saw.
04-27-13, 10:14 AM
#27
For the OP, details on the event are always posted in this forum as well as on http://www.dealsgaprotaryrally.com so there is plenty of info available on what to expect and what is required to attend. You guys had a mix up but take some responsibility to learn more before attending again.
As for making a ton of cash to fund Phil's cars, do the math: 200 attendees at $30 per registration = $6,000. Subtract from that the t-shirts and lodge obligations, and I'd say Phil couldn't fund one of the model RX8s they gave away at the raffle let alone parts for the quality of his car builds. I'd say if you added up all the hours he puts into this and turn it into an hourly rate, he'd be making pennies per hour. And if I am wrong on the math and he clears some $$, then he deserves it for putting in the time for the event. Wouldn't begrudge him at all.
As for making a ton of cash to fund Phil's cars, do the math: 200 attendees at $30 per registration = $6,000. Subtract from that the t-shirts and lodge obligations, and I'd say Phil couldn't fund one of the model RX8s they gave away at the raffle let alone parts for the quality of his car builds. I'd say if you added up all the hours he puts into this and turn it into an hourly rate, he'd be making pennies per hour. And if I am wrong on the math and he clears some $$, then he deserves it for putting in the time for the event. Wouldn't begrudge him at all.
04-27-13, 10:19 AM
#28
Again, maybe there needed to be someone other than Phil getting everyone to register. Maybe someone's cute girlfriend could've done it. Oh wait, we drive rx7's. Sorry I was confused. But phil you are very busy organizing and preparing the event.... so maybe someone can help you with making sure everyone has registered. When you can admit that you were wrong with your approach, I will apologize for my actions.
04-27-13, 12:09 PM
#31
Im good. I have no hard feelings toward anyone. I plan to attend and support future events. But if I am approached wrongly I will speak my mind again. I love the event. Again, love all the people that make it happen. And love seeing all the rotary enthusiasts each year.
So I will see you guys next year. Hopefully with a car.
So I will see you guys next year. Hopefully with a car.
04-27-13, 02:09 PM
#32
The whole issue isnt about paying. And Phil you put words in my mouth which is not cool. You asked If I registered, I said no. You said I have to register, I said aight. And walked away. It wasnt about the money. It was the means of how you approached us about the money.
There were at least 5 people standing around that seen and heard the whole thing. So I ask a question. If I walk up to big john or any of the event organizers and just start going off on them because of issues like having old shirts or whatever else, and you take offense to that...... would you turn a blinded eye? My circle of friends that were with me felt the situation was handled wrong. I felt the situation was handled wrong. Im the nicest guy you wanna meet, so I know im not the raving lunatic here.
When it becomes a business venture, is where it better make sense. If it doesnt make sense, thats when you have to hassle people to make it make sense. I have supported the vendors every year and have bought shirts from you or whoever those proceeds go to, plus ive bought raffle tickets as well. When I first started going to dgrr I was informed that the registration was to make your car eligible for the car show. Ive never looked at my car as a beauty queen. She is a daily driven *****. So I never registered because of that. So maybe im wrong.
Also want to say. Im never a freeloader. I would gladly pay for myself and whoever else needs it. I want to make sure that everyone understands, im not affiliated with any of the vendors, I dont claim to be a part of this or that group. I have made friends that enjoy my company and my car. If anyone ask to display my car after I have purchased a product from them, I oblige. I do plan to attend any rotary event in the future that is accepting of me there. Now we all should know wha the proper procedures are for your event.
Yes, that's what you stated. I would never say I'm going to be a Dick without a reason. Also, think back again, who was the one trying to solve the problem with your friend.. I was the one 10 mins later to bring your friend back up to just sign the waiver and not charge for a registration. I gave him the option and even said, "you sure you want to register?". I was the one who found out that you were part of RotorSport though Jonathan Hallenborg. And came up to you solve the issue. Now, All that was a bad choice? I could of easily gotten a staff from NVNC and ask you to leave. Now that would of been an ******* thing to do.
04-27-13, 02:25 PM
#33
Again, maybe there needed to be someone other than Phil getting everyone to register. Maybe someone's cute girlfriend could've done it. Oh wait, we drive rx7's. Sorry I was confused. But phil you are very busy organizing and preparing the event.... so maybe someone can help you with making sure everyone has registered. When you can admit that you were wrong with your approach, I will apologize for my actions.
Also, I had to come up to you because he was your guess. Have you also thought maybe you knew your friend was having issue you should of approached me and try to clarify? If I recall I tried to clarify ye situation and no one from you or your friend did. Except I'm being called an *******
04-27-13, 02:27 PM
#34
Im good. I have no hard feelings toward anyone. I plan to attend and support future events. But if I am approached wrongly I will speak my mind again. I love the event. Again, love all the people that make it happen. And love seeing all the rotary enthusiasts each year.
So I will see you guys next year. Hopefully with a car.
So I will see you guys next year. Hopefully with a car.
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