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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rx7carl
Working for the owners (now IB) for free as a mod to make this a better place (and makes them $$$$). But I cant have my micro/boutique business' link in my sig unless I pay more than what I make a month?
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well, that was more forced upon us by the general membership. A few outspoken members here don't like that mods can do things they can't. Talk to Ryan... he'll work something out for you that is benifical to both.


Status as a moderator should have nothing to do with your business. Ccontributions to the forum in the form of content or administration do not allow for anyone to circumvent the rules.

However, I brainstormed over the list of items discussed last night and I might have a solution to this specific issue. I will be posting it for review in the mod section with my highlights post here shortly.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 680RWHP12A
its simple really he has sold alot of parts-motors here... he has made money here..... he is a bussiness.. he should be a paying vendor like the rest of us....


no hatred here, kevin is a great guy, hell i thought he was a vendor already from all the **** he sells here(good **** that is...)

i was banned years ago, then let back on limited to what i could do and then became a vendor, since then i've never looked back.... being a vendor is a good thing and is the fair thing to do for everybody involved...
It's good to see a Vendor post here, especially Robert - who could have easily said screw this after getting banned.

But way back then, it was me who spoke with Robert and let him come back. Sometime later it was me who worked out a nicely priced package with Robert, something he could afford and that gives him the ability he needs to sell here. And since then Robert and I have had nothing but a beneficial and understanding relationship.

So frankly the bitchers and moaners can kiss my ***, because I know that if a vendor works with me openly and without a judgemental attitude, they get a good deal ... and I give them ridiculous amounts of lee-way as long as they remain open with me. Kevin had his chance in the past to take one of those sweet deals and denied, instead taking the self-righteous path because he's the 'people's champion'. He even was the benefactor of years of lee-way because of advertising in the magazine, and still he chose to flagrantly abuse the rules.

If you do that, you're going to get banned. And if you stand on the sidelines and pass judgement about things which you have no clue like most here love to do, then you're wasting your time because nobody in-the-know here cares what those ignorant of the facts think. All you do in that case is **** people off, and for what? Because you love drawing attention to yourself and are unable to do that in a positive way.

I'm going to continue to lead as I have for the last 11 years, the Mods are going to continue doing a great job of enforcing things as well as humanly possible, most members will continue to love and use the site, and the 3% who just love to bitch will continue to do so.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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^Spoken like a true hero
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 85rx-7gsl-se
^Spoken like a true hero
More self-serving divisiveness from someone who knows nothing about me, and from one of Kevin's buds of course.

The true test of a Man is how you handle adversity, Kevin and his groupies have handled this poorly. He knows he deserved the ban, hell he did it on purpose. Admitting fault and asking to move on is simple, Robert of rotaryshack was in the exact same circumstance long ago and he handled it like a man, and since then things have just been peachy between us.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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I have met Kevin personally, I have never met any of you....so yeah, I am more prone to side with him. Kevin is an asset to rotary owners. Are rx-7 how he makes his dough, yeah. But at the same time, its not like he runs an RX7 junk yard or sell tons of new merchandise.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Judging by the stable of cars in his signature, I'd imagine he is doing quite well if he is just making dough from selling a few RX-7 parts and services.

Originally Posted by RotaryRessurection's sig
02 Denali: now LS6 Z06 powered
04 RX-8: AT w/appearance
90 RX-7: GT35R, AP PFC, HKS FMIC/BOV, Greddy PE dual
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Just my 2 cents.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 85rx-7gsl-se
I have met Kevin personally, I have never met any of you....so yeah, I am more prone to side with him. Kevin is an asset to rotary owners. Are rx-7 how he makes his dough, yeah. But at the same time, its not like he runs an RX7 junk yard or sell tons of new merchandise.
That's all great and nobody here disagrees, but also it has no factor in the decision to ban or not. Ones actions are all that can and should be considered.
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Ryan, you are full of **** if you say that I never tried to make it work. You came to me looking for money, I told you what I could and could not do on a monthly basis. You started off wanting $400 per month for banner and vendor section, which I did not want. We agreed that you would run my banner only for $150 for the first month and $250 for the subsequent month, and at the end of the 2 months we would sit back down and see how things sat and go from there.

I prepaid you the $400 as proved by the paypal payment info below. It took you weeks to install my banner, and you ignored my attempts at contact in the meantime. Eventually it went up, but I did not know when it began, thus I did not know when the 2 months ended.

Since you are so worried about money, I figured you would let me know at the end of the time, as agreed. But, I never heard anything from you, not another word...the banner came down and that was the end of it.

Paypal for my vendor/sponsorship:

Payment Sent (ID #6T161749SG950924S)



Business Name:
MazdaSource.com
Email:
ryan@rx7club.com

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Business Contact Information

Customer Service URL: https://www.rx7club.com
Customer Service Email: ryan@rxtuner.com
Customer Service Phone: 314-780-XXXX

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Total Amount:
-$400.00 USD

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Date:
Feb. 26, 2004
Time:
00:38:34 PST
Status:
Completed

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Subject:
MazdaSource.com
Note:
first month at $150, second month at $250, to begin when Brian Sieber submits the banner.
Shipping Address:
No Address Provided

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Funding Type: PayPal Funds
Funding Source: $400.00 USD - PayPal Account

As far as DKJ's comments, yes I have managed to buy a few toys over the last few years...much of it comes from hookups I have made as a member of the car community, being able to get discounts on parts and such. On a yearly basis, I probably clear less than any of you on your regular day jobs. But then again, none of that is your business anyway, so I dont see why it is being debated.

So Ryan, are you going to continue to fill these people's heads with bullshit, or admit the truth, that you are just as much in the wrong as I supposedly am? Your contact and communication SUCKS. You wonder why some people don't work with you? Now you know. I'm sure as hell not chasing someone down to give them obscene amounts of money.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Oh, and I havent sold parts as a business in the last about 2-3 years. I did part out a car last summer that I found locally, and was too good a deal to pass up. Many of the parts went to local guys who needed stuff. I sold my entire inventory of non-engine-internal parts to an out of state buyer in 2005 for about 20% of it's market value because I needed the space and did not have time with the engine work coming in. All I do now are engine builds.

On occasion I find a couple of small pieces on a shelf or on a core I get, so I do look to unload those so someone else can use them rather than throw it out in the junk pile and not help anyone.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen.rocket
http://www.rotarycarclub.com/showthread.php?t=86

One of the top engine builders, used part guys, and source of free information for everyone in this community- banned for not ponying up ad dollars.

This place has really just gone right down the drain. What a joke.
LOL....wait,wait, wait. The creator of this site Ryan is banning someone for not following through with a business deal hu? Lets talk about his little magazine called RXTuner that flopped and lots of people didnt get all of the issues promised or money back. So do we get to ban him for that?

I understand that if he didnt pay a bill there will be a punishment. I agree with that, I dont know the circumstances. But lets resolve this and not act like ryan has not done anything bad too. Plus almost every rotary tuner has contributed lots to our community.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
As far as DKJ's comments, yes I have managed to buy a few toys over the last few years...much of it comes from hookups I have made as a member of the car community, being able to get discounts on parts and such. On a yearly basis, I probably clear less than any of you on your regular day jobs. But then again, none of that is your business anyway, so I dont see why it is being debated.
Bah' I ain't mad atcha... I wish I had a couple of your toys... your "freind" there was the one who was trying to make a point of how your just selling parts to make ends meet.

Like Eddie Murphy said in RAW - "It looks like the ends are meeting like a MF'er". ... of course that's just speculation. I am curious was going with Z06 better than the twin turbo setup.

I agree with you completely though how much you (or anyone else) makes is none of anyones business. Hopefully, even your supporters can understand that.
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again, you people just fail to see the big picture. this is why they think we're all retards.

Quit bringing up the magazine. **** happens and sometimes you have to let it go. Is it about the money? doubtful. Is it about the lack of follow thorough? yes. You also have to be considerate to the unforeseen events that led to the eventual death of the magazine. Is it their fault? no, not entirely. This all leads back to the whole point of all this bullshit.

The contributions of the member as a WHOLE far outweighs the ****-ups. Am I the only one that finds this sensible????

For the record, the magazines were awesome and I miss them almost as much as I miss what this place used to be.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DrKilljoy
Bah' I ain't mad atcha... I wish I had a couple of your toys... your "freind" there was the one who was trying to make a point of how your just selling parts to make ends meet.

Like Eddie Murphy said in RAW - "It looks like the ends are meeting like a MF'er". ... of course that's just speculation. I am curious was going with Z06 better than the twin turbo setup.

I agree with you completely though how much you (or anyone else) makes is none of anyones business. Hopefully, even your supporters can understand that.
We all know Kevin's main business is rebuilding engines. Does he sell some stuff on the side, yeah. Is he a vendor for selling these parts on the side....you say yes, many others say no...but thats the great thing about America, we have the right to disagree
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
again, you people just fail to see the big picture. this is why they think we're all retards.

Quit bringing up the magazine. **** happens and sometimes you have to let it go. Is it about the money? doubtful. Is it about the lack of follow thorough? yes. You also have to be considerate to the unforeseen events that led to the eventual death of the magazine. Is it their fault? no, not entirely. This all leads back to the whole point of all this bullshit.

The contributions of the member as a WHOLE far outweighs the ****-ups. Am I the only one that finds this sensible????

For the record, the magazines were awesome and I miss them almost as much as I miss what this place used to be.



Bro, i agree 120% with you. I just was pointing out how ironic the situation was. I miss the magizine as well, but I feel that this web site is being used more as a cash cow than it is to help the rotary community. That is my point.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DrKilljoy
Bah' I ain't mad atcha... I wish I had a couple of your toys... your "freind" there was the one who was trying to make a point of how your just selling parts to make ends meet.

Like Eddie Murphy said in RAW - "It looks like the ends are meeting like a MF'er". ... of course that's just speculation. I am curious was going with Z06 better than the twin turbo setup.

I agree with you completely though how much you (or anyone else) makes is none of anyones business. Hopefully, even your supporters can understand that.
Wow, I am proud of ya...a mod speaking in my direction with a non accusatory tone.

It looks like I have a lot of **** and must be rich, because I put a higher percentage than normal into my rides. I dont have any debt except my house so I can get by with it. I figure as long as my family is provided for and my bills are paid, the rest is mine to play with as I see fit, and so I do.

The ls6 swap was done out of necessity due to a spun cam bearing in the 6 liter truck motor. I still have the TT setup and plan to install it on the new motor, I will just have to be more conservative with boost due to the higher compression ratio. Should still be good for around 500 all wheel hp. I am worried about tearing up the trans, though, especially with the weight of the truck and the awd drivetrain keeping all of the torque trapped in itself, versus letting the tires spin like a rwd setup would.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman4357
Bro, i agree 120% with you. I just was pointing out how ironic the situation was. I miss the magizine as well, but I feel that this web site is being used more as a cash cow than it is to help the rotary community. That is my point.
I'd be bold enough to say hypocrisy rather than irony. In the end, I don't think it's about the community anymore.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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again, you people just fail to see the big picture. this is why they think we're all retards.

Quit bringing up the magazine. **** happens and sometimes you have to let it go.
Since time heals all wounds, can we start making jokes about the Holocaust now?
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman4357
LOL....wait,wait, wait. The creator of this site Ryan is banning someone for not following through with a business deal hu? Lets talk about his little magazine called RXTuner that flopped and lots of people didnt get all of the issues promised or money back. So do we get to ban him for that?

I understand that if he didnt pay a bill there will be a punishment. I agree with that, I dont know the circumstances. But lets resolve this and not act like ryan has not done anything bad too. Plus almost every rotary tuner has contributed lots to our community.
I didn't ban Kevin, in fact I had NOTHING to do with it. Why Kevin was banned has been addressed countless times by the Mods involved, and this recount of the events on the other forum is nothing more than a twisted version of the truth by somebody who's bitter and self-serving.
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Wow, I am proud of ya...a mod speaking in my direction with a non accusatory tone.

It looks like I have a lot of **** and must be rich, because I put a higher percentage than normal into my rides. I dont have any debt except my house so I can get by with it. I figure as long as my family is provided for and my bills are paid, the rest is mine to play with as I see fit, and so I do.

The ls6 swap was done out of necessity due to a spun cam bearing in the 6 liter truck motor. I still have the TT setup and plan to install it on the new motor, I will just have to be more conservative with boost due to the higher compression ratio. Should still be good for around 500 all wheel hp. I am worried about tearing up the trans, though, especially with the weight of the truck and the awd drivetrain keeping all of the torque trapped in itself, versus letting the tires spin like a rwd setup would.
Thanks.... I think. (j/k)

I assume your talking about other mods. I try to remain as level headed as I can and I rarely take anything here personally.

I think many of us have higher ratios of automotive expenditures than the average household. I'm in the same boat as you regarding home, family and personal fun.

Holee crap, that will be a monster if you get it all sorted out. I'd love to see the 12 second or so timeslips on a big SUV.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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I didn't ban Kevin, in fact I had NOTHING to do with it. Why Kevin was banned has been addressed countless times by the Mods involved, and this recount of the events on the other forum is nothing more than a twisted version of the truth by somebody who's bitter and self-serving.

Fair enough. I just think it would be an unfair punishment to ban him. Maybe remove his ads and such, but not to ban people who contribute to the community. And everyone has to be selfserving, or we wouldnt be able to afford our 7's
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Since time heals all wounds, can we start making jokes about the Holocaust now?


Dude, I don't even know where to begin. I'll chuck it up to the mulletosis and leave it as that.
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Originally Posted by phoenix7
again, you people just fail to see the big picture. this is why they think we're all retards.

Quit bringing up the magazine. **** happens and sometimes you have to let it go. Is it about the money? doubtful. Is it about the lack of follow thorough? yes. You also have to be considerate to the unforeseen events that led to the eventual death of the magazine. Is it their fault? no, not entirely. This all leads back to the whole point of all this bullshit.

The contributions of the member as a WHOLE far outweighs the ****-ups. Am I the only one that finds this sensible????

For the record, the magazines were awesome and I miss them almost as much as I miss what this place used to be.
I'll say this for about the 10,000th time. The magazine was 2 FRIGGIN PEOPLE, myself and Brian Sieber. Brian, at 36 years old, with 3 kids and a wife, with 2 other full-time jobs and tons of stress from the losing battle that was getting advertisers to pay their RX Tuner bills, had 2 massive heart attacks! He damn near died because of the stress of the magazine.

And still, after that he wanted to continue! But I'm assuming his Wife and Doctor talked sense into him, and he had to quit.

That left only me, and one person can't do an entire magazine.

But I haven't folded the corporation just yet because I'm holding on hope of bringing it back. My preference would be to make it a free online mag, and part of my initital discussions with IB were for them to build me the ability to publish the mag as part of the forums. That hasn't happened yet, but I'm still trying.

How many other people have tried to put out a rotary mag? For the record we had 18 issues, and they were all phenominal! I personally lost probably $10K at a time when I did NOT have that to lose, Brian lost less but still lost some money. Sure I receive thanks offline from people who appreciate what we tried to do, but people who use what happened against me here should be ashamed of themselves. We created something that none of you would have the ***** to try yourselves, and probably most wouldn't be able even if they tried. So cut me so slack, and respect what Brian put himself through in the process.
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Dude, I don't even know where to begin. I'll chuck it up to the mulletosis and leave it as that.
Puh-leeze....
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