'89Vert

One suggestion i have heard, and believe to be a pretty good idea, would be to add a Convertible section out there underneath the 2nd gen specific "umbrella". I know there's a lot of vert owners other than myself, and there are a lot of vert specific questions that could be answered in there (i.e. top problems, headrest speakers, storage area modifications, and other convertible specific parts and issues).

The convertible was enough of a different beast than the coupe/turbo II's that I feel, as do others as well, that it should have a seperate "mini-forum" if you will, under the 2nd Gen umbrella. This would of course take some work, moving some of the more relevant convertible threads to the forum. At the same time it would also take some of the load off of the main 2nd gen forum, which as we all know has become a little crazy as of late (just my .02, not intended to be a strike against any of the mods, but there's just such a high volume in there it's difficult to control). Anyways, thats just mho as a vert owner...

seventh_rx

it'd also be great to have just a n/a section as well. since the vert has the same engine they'd go well together.

'89Vert

I agree as far as the engine, but of course if you create a section for n/a's, that means creating one for turbo's as well. While we're at it we should have yet another sub-section for s4's and s5's...but again, none of this is likely to happen due to the amount of work it would take since we're talking about basically overhauling the 2nd gen section.

That's how i really feel it should be split, but being a vert owner I'm a bit biased. I would seriously be happy with just that. A Vert/Turbo/Na split would be ideal, but again all of this is highly unlikely. Owners of the vehicles are doomed to search endlessly through the 2nd gen section and sort it out for themselves.


edit: it would also be a little more helpful to post useful convertible threads in the 2nd gen archive. It's disappointing that the vert is practically ignored in most of the archive. That in itself would help to relieve some stress of vert owners.

rx7babygurl85

i agree with you on adding a vert section. i myself had a vert and actually plan on getting it back, it would be easier to post things that are vert specific in that section and the can get a reply a whole lot faster then just the secton 2nd gen forum, also im not sure if anyone else has this problem but its so hard to find things about the automatic transmission, and i know that most of you people on here do the manual swap, but thats something that i personally cant do due to me not knowing how to drive a stick. but personally i love the idea of just a vert section

'89Vert

Just a reminder to the vert owners out there...if you post in here and really want to see it happen, make sure you rate the thread (up at the top) so it might get some attention, otherwise it'll go ignored as any other old post

90WhiteVrt

lets do it

Ronald E. Jacques

I suggested this too, about a year ago, and it was shot down pretty quickly, so I wouldn't expect to garner much support.

Mordachai

eh, but if the vert owners come out in mass, maybe it will have a different outcome

I'm for the vert section, not just cause I have one either. There are more things that got changed in these cars than many of us even know of.................


Anyhow.....

|M|

'89Vert

The problem is getting any decent size group to cooperate with each other w/out bickering...

Mordachai

well I have so damn many Vert specific Q's, can't seem to find all the right answers in the archives or current threads.
I think this could happen,
It's just like you said though, to get together without bickering................................

'89Vert

The mods are gonna hate me but i think i'm gonna cross-post in the 2nd gen section to get more attention since no one looks in here...

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

Dude, what's really different about verts from other fc's? drivetrain is identical to the appropriate year NA. Body from the doors forward is the same. There are only minor wiring differences, and of course the top and quarterpanels are different. The vert has a bit of extra chassis bracing, and the taillights arent exactly the same.

Other than that, what is the big problem?

Yes, I've owned and modded a vert before.

I personally think there are TOO many subsections on this forum. We have general rotary tech, rotary performance, single turbo rotary, and race car tech, all of which are pretty much the same thing.

Peyman

iTrader: (2)

i hava a 88 vert as well, but with a tII swap. I defenately agree on a vert section, an n/a section, and a TII section. It would be much easier for everyone...

'89Vert

I'm sorry you think there are too many subsections on the forum already, it's not really my fault, but that's the way it is. (BTW: how are general rotary and race car tech the same? It seems to me there are quite a few difference between race cars and dd's, perhaps i'm ignorant...please forgive my sarcasm this isn't the point)

The point is, in the same way those deserve different sections, i believe, as well as a lot of other convertible owners believe that the vert is different enough to warrant a sub section. It would help reduce the "how many subwoofers can i fit in my spare tire area" or "headrest speaker" type questions that have no pertinence to normal n/a rx's that regularly pollute the regular 2nd gen forum.

But anyways, this is just my opinion, although i do believe i'm not the only one with it.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

Well, let me give you an example, and you'll see exactly how stupid it would really be. Imagine that you got your way, and there was a 2nd gen convertible, a 2nd gen nonturbo, and a second gen turbo section, along with all the rest that exist now. Course, you'd probably want the convertible sub section to be divided again into turbo and nonturbo, and hell, throw in a v8 and 3 rotor section there too, since those guys have questions about their setups.

You have a convertible with a turbo 2 swap. No big deal, right? So you have a question about a problem with the engine...let's say it's hesitating, or whatever. You could post your question in any or all of the below areas:

2nd generation specific turbo
2nd generation specific convertible
single turbo rx7
general rotary tech support
rotary performance

Now, what if you had a question about a blow off valve, or a aftermarket turbo selection? Logic would have it that since many FD owners have advanced turbo setups, you should check out what they have to say about the matter too, so you might be tempted to post there as well.

OF couse, the average person posting a question needs instant gratification, and will cross post in all the pertinent sections to increase viewer exposure (sound familiar?). So you now have all these threads floating around about the same thing, just in different sections...that the same people go into anyway.

My point is there are too many sections that cross over into each other's territory. It makes posting and replying to questions more difficult, and searching even more so.

gerbraldy

LOL
There is no need for any extra sections as RR clearly pointed out. As you guys can see all you with 2hundred something post are the only ones that think it is a good idea. There is not nearly a big enough difference to have a seperate section.

DamonB

Nope.

(that's my opinion)

EvilWankel

iTrader: (2)

I would almost think it's a good idea too, but there is only a few minor questions (that I can think of) that would need to be answered in a 'convertible only' section.

I'm a vert owner, but I will agree that this seems a little pointless

seventh_rx

I just hate seeing someone post a issue that I can relate to and find out that he's a TII.

RX-Heven

iTrader: (1)

Just a vert section is just plain ol' dumb.
There are to many things n/a's and turbos have in common to justify splitting them up.

Go hang out on this forum if you want it that way.
http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/

Mordachai

Actually, I have feelings both ways.

One of the reasons my posts are kinda low, is everytime I have a problem/question, I search and about 98% of the time find the answer. Only reason I joined was cause I either couldn't see some thread, or more likely couldn't find the answer searching( I think that's the case - eh whatever) but I know all the tech threads are viewable to anyone, including nonmembers iirc. (and I still consider myself new around here- with lots to learn rotary)

And actually I think that most(maybe not all) issues could be solved for this matter if all the good info about verts was put into the archives. I just looked and there's nothing about the vert I could find, except one thread on fixing vert windows.

I think some of the vert audio stuff is in the audio forum.

But I think there are more things specific to the verts than said above. They all had lighter wheels and bigger brakes to help with the heavy car it had become. really, there's lots of issues the more you think about them....

anyhow, the regular 2nd gen forums have served me damn well for a long time, and kept the 7 running all along the way. Not once can I think of a time when I searched and didn't find the answers to what I'm looking for.

Yeah, a vert specific forum would be swell, could even get the very few 1st gen custom verts, and I have seen one 3rd gen vert too(but it looked like crap, sloppy job, I think). Could have all kinds of vert spcific things.

but if it never happens, I won't loose any sleep, and neither should none of you!
|M|

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

Verts had the same brakes that all t2's and half of the NA's had.

NOPR

I think a vert FAQ would be infinitely better than a Vert section. Most of these subforums are pretty dead or as RotaryResurrection said, basically the same thing.

homebrewer

I also agree that we don't need a vert section. I know everybody wants to feel special with their own forum section but it would just mess things up.

'89Vert

Honestly, I would be happy for some more convertible questions to be answered in the archive. Like anyone gives a **** what i think though. I didn't actually expect it to happen.

Anyways there's jack **** in the archive for vert's...i think it's unfair that we aren't represented.