Falken

I'm so frustrated! No matter who on this forum I try messaging or who in the industry I contact no one has replied!

I have four messages on this forum and their all in my sent list two weeks old.

No one on this forum bothers to reply so my project is at a standstill because I can't get good information.

No one replies to my e-mails, I've got three of those just hanging out there.

I might as well be getting autoreplies from messages and threads saying "No I'm sorry, you're not allowed to have anyone answer your questions because your name is falken and that might help you in some way.

No one replies to my threads on this forum either. It's like someone sent a PM out to the rotary world "Don't talk to falken/make it as hard as possible for him to find the information he needs. That way he'll be really pissed off."

I'm going to end up calling people, I know it. I hate doing that.

rowtareh?

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I don't get it. Thanks for being so scarce on details.

BurlesonRX7

well what did you ask about?

Falken

I am OVERJOYED that someone is replying to one of my threads.

I've been asking around mostly about a decent fuel system for a three-rotor engine. Would be extend port with RB's aluminum plates and hopefully an aluminum center plate. 350whp @ 9k is ideal. I don't care about mileage. Engine is N/A.

Amazingly the only person out of 6 that replied to my thread was Tremblay of the speedsource team and he told me to use a Bosch 44 fuel pump. I don't know what to do about injectors, I don't know anything about it.

Manifold would use ITBs

rowtareh?

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Well, there's not alot of information out there for 20B's. Mainly based on the cost of doing anything with a 20B is usually 3-xxx times more costly than anything 2 rotor. Have you spoken to GtoRX7 yet? He is running a 20B N/A right now from what I recall.


Also, just because nobody does not respond to a thread or to a PM, does not mean they are ignoring you, they just don't have an answer for you.

Larz

You are asking advice on the rarest of an already rare breed. This isn't small block chevy land.

Falken

Actually I PM'ed him too, he hasn't gotten back to me. In fact out of all of the people I've contacted he's the one I think would be most helpful to me, considering his experience with N/A three rotors and mounts.

Fair point. But I haven't asked anyone who didn't have experience in the field.

aznpoopy

i'm not being sarcastic when i say try the dedicated 20b forum
https://www.rx7club.com/20b-forum-95/

reted's webpage has a little bit on the 20b as well, including a decent sized section on fueling
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/20b.html

"The stock 20B run 6 x 550cc/min fuel injectors, so you're looking at a 50% increase in fuel injector capacity compared to a stock FC3S fuel system. At the very least, you need an upgrade fuel pump; there are economically priced upgrade fuel pumps under $200 that can easily support 400hp from the 20B. The Bosch -044 upgrade fuel pump should be enough for 400 to 500hp at the wheels. If you are shooting for more power, larger fuel injectors and larger (or twin) fuel pump(s) are almost necessary.
[Bosch upgrade fuel pump - $200; SS -6AN lines and fittings - $500; SX FPR - $200; fuel filters - $100] "

rowtareh?

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I find it hard to believe that you could not find information on a fueling system though. Thread moved also.

Falken

Thanks for the help. I regularly check the 20B section, I have a few threads there. One of them was really great for a while and than the others just flopped with no replies.

I've seen that website too, in fact I have it opened in another browser window where I keep all my valuable 20B information.

jhammons01

I'll go find all of your threads and reply with


"search nOOb!@!!"

Falken

I'm too happy that you bothered replying to my thread to care that you're flaming me.

rotor vs. piston

Ask how to put a sr20det in an FB and I'll respond to you. I've replied back to anyone that's ever had a question about it.

Also... when I did it, I had no one to help me... but I did have the internet to search and figure out things.

Falken

I don't have an FB, but I'd love to hear about the engine. Not that I would put it in my car, but I don't know much about it, so if you feel like talking about it, I feel like listening.

jhammons01

I'm just kidding. This is the lounge.......Understand, you'll rarely get a straight answer in here.


.........Sorry lounge rats, someone had to tell him.

JStrib

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Have another reply

Falken

Sweet! Keep em coming.

Mordachai

haha, the way the lounge is, you were destined to not get a single reply at all, or assorted replies with some info you wanted, some info you didn't want, and alot of offtopic replies. looks like it's the latter.

Falken

I don't even care. I just want my freaking messages answered. One ignored is annoying. Two is unlucky. Three is ******* frustrating. I have eight.

I must be asking some offensive or racist questions because any time I ask anyone for any info I don't get anwered.

Mysterikal

Try TIIDB. that usually works too.

GtoRx7

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Hey sorry Brandon, I read your message and didnt have time to give a answer. Then more PM's came in everyday and knocked it off the first page. Then out of site, out of memory. A few slip through the cracks once in a while
Putting a 20b in a Rx-8 is not fun. I have taken measurements with a engine out of a Rx-8 and the largest enemey is the steering rack (much like the FD). But on the Rx-8 its ten times harder due to the fact its steering rack is WAY larger in diameter. So you cant just put the 20b over top of the rack and adjust everything else to fit. So it has to be shoved way back, and make a very very short lower intake manifold to tuck it all in. Shorten the pp frame, shorten the driveshaft. Mod the shifter location on a FD or FC tranny. FC will be easier to do, but none are easy. Then build custom engine mounts. And this is all in speculation, I never did the swap yet.

Now seeing that you need more information in the area of n/a 20b's, ask me anything you want. 350rwhp n/a is not very easy. There are bridge port n/a 20b's and a p-port 20b's that are street driven making 300rwhp. A few years ago my car made 348rwhp with ITB's and a streetport. Recently tried a stock intake and made 313rwhp. I can put you on the right track, but alot will have to come from your own research with trial and error dyno time. Gotta keep some cards close to the chest if you know what I mean My best advise is to initially use medium to small street ports. Very big ports are not a key to large power. If going ITB's, 50-55mm is a good place to be. Use the 9.7:1 rotors for the best cost/power ratio. The stock oil system lacks on the 20b. Revs over 8500 with race clearanced bearings will result in a drop of pressure. Stock apex seals work very well and are safe below 8500 rpms. To make over 350 wheel, your going to need over 8500 rpms. Make sure you have the rotating assembly fully balanced. The difference in a 8500rpm 20b and a 10,000 rpm 20b is more than double the price. I would wait on aluminum side housings and invest in carbon body parts or other sweet parts for 7.

burnoutking999

lol, this thread would win the internet forever if no one replied lolololololol

OnlyOnThurs

you should pm 13B-Rx3 (Allen is his name ) on this forum. He is a very good friend of mine here in south texas. He i currently building a 20B project for another freind of ours. He knows engines like the back of his hand. Amazing guy with a wealth of knowledge. He probably can help you

SLOASFK

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I have the perfect idea! What you can do is start a thread in the Lounge whining about it.

OneBadCynos

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men... i want to have those!!!?!?!?!?