Scrub

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So....I guess my thread about the digazine got deleted (not moved) for no reason at all............AND herblenny was BANNED!!! Seriously? What the hell is wrong with this forum lately?

I guess people can post reviews about products, even if the product doesn't sponsor this forum; but only if the moderators don't have a problem with the company who produces the product......at least that's what it seems like.

If someone cares to give me/us (the forum) a rational reason why threads are getting deleted then I have no problem. But this public forum seems to be less and less public by the day.

Also to add a little frustration, whoever banned him was childish enough to add "banned...I got owned" under his name.

-end rant-

-Dan

1QWIK7

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Dont really know the full details but phil was banned a while ago.

And EVERYONE who gets banned, says banned, i got owned under their username.

Its not for any particular person, thats their default caption for people who get banned.

Scrub

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He just posted in the thread I made yesterday. I didn't know that they wrote that under the username though.....my mistake then.

I just don't see why the thread I made was deleted, I don't think I violated any of the forum regulations.

cabaynes

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after all Phil has done for this forum, and a lot of us forum veterans have contributed to this place, information and experience, tuning sessions, meets, etc...

this forum is really going to ****.

Viking War Hammer

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Your keyboard is broke

Miata_mx5

All hail the People's Republik of Rx7club.

DrKillJoY

Your free to leave at anytime.

Scrub

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holy **** thanks for the response.....you've been super helpful at answering ZERO of my questions.

DrKillJoY

First of all I wasn't replying to your question. I was commenting on the lame comparison of the club with an infamous region.

FWIW - Maybe, I was in the process of answering your questions.

As for as the reason someone else got banned that is not a topic for general discussion.

The user knows why they were banned and that's all that matters.

As far as the digizine thread removals I've been advised they are not allowed as it constitutes direct free advertising. R*C*C* has positioned themselves as a direct competitor with the rx7club and therefore we are obliged to restrict their level of advertising.

Maybe instead of bitching about it in a public thread you could contact one of the moderators first to resolve your questions and issues.

Thanks,

Scrub

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Thanks for the response. I appreciate it.

I don't see how a magazine is a competitor of the forum though... I stumbled upon it and thought it was interesting, and wanted to share. My mistake if it's not allowed.

If "they" are not much of a competitor, then I don't see why it's such a touchy subject.

DrKillJoY

The digizine is developed and distributed by people who regarded advertising on this site as unfair, yet have run off to plunder the spoils of advertising for themselves. *shrug*

It wouldn't be such a touchy subject if they didn't bash the staff and ownership at every turn or attempt to use this forum as a launching point for their own agenda. If they would have gone off and tried to build something on their own that would have been great, however they continue to wage a futile war to pull members from this site to theirs. At best they've only given our users another resource. Heck, most of their ardent supporters are still very regular members here. (Thanks guys!!) Even their top players still can't stay away from this site and to this day create multiple names and identities just to mask their anonymity. I'd love to say I miss them, but it seems they've never left.

You might noticed we manage to exist peacefully with dozens of other forums. The R*C*C* is the only forum I know of that harbors such hate and disdain for their former home.

PS - Regarding the other guys as competition per Alexa.com



https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1220478885

rowtareh?

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The "advertisers/shops/businesses" over on R/C/C complained about the advertising rates SET by IB, and took it out on the Moderators and Admins who run this forum on a unpaid volunteer basis, and blamed us for policing the rules of the forum.

A few of them also stated that they were not in business for RX-7's/Rotaries. That's funny, there are more sections for businesses over there. Kind of funny ain't it?


And, I spoke to Ryan Scott (BOOSTD 7) recently in person, and he told me before IB took over the rx7club.com, rx8club.com, and mazda3.com, that the hits between rx7club.com and rx8club.com was 300,000,000. Yes, 300 million hits. I don't really think this forum is going into the "*******".

Indyparts

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If you take out the BS threads and the bitching threads about how much this forum sucks anymore, your hit count will go down considerably.

djmtsu

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Yeah, **** this place.

Indyparts

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Rowtareh?... Have you really been around since 2002 ?

rowtareh?

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300 million hits was guests and members. That's pretty amazing. If you even search RX-7, this forum comes up second under the results through Google. It might be 3rd, I don't recall correctly.


Yes. I had maybe 7 posts between 2002 and 2004, and I forgot the password to the original account and just started a new one. I found the old one one night out of luck, and had just my join date changed.

Scrub

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I don't think the "going in the *******" comment was directed toward the number of hits, but rather the content. This forum is a great resource for information if you know how to use it. Most people either don't know how to, or are too lazy.

-Dan

Indyparts

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What is funny, a quarter of the people on this forum don't own or have never owned a Rx7. They are on this forum because of the amount of people that are on this forum.

rowtareh?

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That's true, but this forum has many years of information, you just have to READ! It's not just going to come out and smack you right in the face.


But that does not mean they can't come around. But when they speak about a car doing this and that, they really have no real world input. They just read about it.

junito1

MOderators are abusing their authority. I told ernieT he suxr's at driving. Which is not an insult its a fact. I got banned for 10 days.

He said i insulted him and other forum members. When i was only talking to him in PM's. lol's w/e

PLus today i found out they took out a nice thread i was looking for. According to other members it was the best writeup on that subject so far. Luckly a member had it copied and is going to send it to me. And when the thread gets brough up again about the missing archive, they lock the thread because it kept getting bumped.. meaning They dont want people to read it. LOl

The forums priority.
This is a forum for information. And you are taking the good information out of the thread for whatever reason. You shouldnt have any excuses or reasons to delete a thread many people could learn from.

rowtareh?

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I locked it to keep people from voicing their opinions about the forum....again. Forum members can still find the thread, it's not deleted.


Also, your situation with ErnieT. You insulted a moderator. And you insulted a moderator about something he is very passionate about and has been working on for.....I think close to 4 years now, and on the same car. I don't blame him for banning you honestly.

lt1_rx7

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To comment on DKJ's statement about comments made on R*C*C* putting down rx7club...

Yes, R*C*C* has grown because of people's dislike of several previous mentioned changes to rx7club. To the best of my knowledge, another forum was sparked by people's discontent here as well, though it was quite sometime back. T*F*L is that forum. Though T*F*L was because of changes in moderation of the lounge and I'm sure in the early days many would voice their opinions against rx7club. but I wasn't around in those days, so this is only my speculations...What happened in the early days of *NoPistons" or S*N*T*P forums? (i'm not on it/them so i dont know the exact names...)

So, I can only naturally expect that for the first few months R*C*C members who do truly "migrate" from here to there will complain and make comments about why they left and/or were banned. Eventually it becomes a little childish to continue to complain after your time is done. But then again, we all talk about the things that **** us off. And I think as long as more people are no longer free to voice their opinion on this forum about changes here, then they will migrate to somewhere and share their opinions.

I think that the way that rx7club is handling it is a bit childish. Blocking and removing nearly every mention of R*C*C? banning people for what they say on another forum? It's almost like "oh, you have a v8 swap...go away, you're not welcome here" instead of "that's not what i would have done, but come on over and hang out, why did you swap?" Wasn't this forum founded on sharing information and helping grow the rotary community? It seems that IB's changes and the actions of the mods/admins are contributing to split it.

-Do the mods realize there are un-happy members? yes.
-How do they handle these unhappy members when they ask questions?
"you can leave when ever you want", or simply don't answer the questions asked or get aggravated with the member and tell them "that's common sense, you should know" (if i knew, i wouldn't be asking...)

Do some of the people on other forums still come back here? yes, makes sense to me. I'm on both forums daily. rx7club is older and has a hell of a lot more content. R*C*C hasn't has the time to have all the technical data there as you can find here. nor does it have the traffic yet for personal classified ads to lead to quick sells. But if someone wants all the technical data from here to be posted somewhere else, well, then I'll do it personally. I've already "ripped" all 4500+ pics from the FD picture thread. With a few change to my program, I can rip full posts and even post them to any other forum using vBulletin i have an account on.

I can do that but I don't see a need for it just yet. I would like to see rx7club be a little more forgiving to R*C*C and any other national/internation rotary forum. I guess like the Progressive commercials say about progressive looking up how much you pay at other companies, "if they are this helpful when shopping for car insurance, imagine how they will be when your a customer". Instead of rx7club trying to become a "better" forum, the wish to be defensive. According to some admin/mods, rx7club is so great already, the other forums can't compete...then why worry about them and what their members do on them?

Personally, I'm still on here because of my love of RX-7s. I've made many great friends because of rx7club. I can find information here I can't find elsewhere. Do I wish I could post freely to resources that are not available here? I wish I could, regardless of who's trying to make $$ off of our cars and who they give $$ to so they can.

I'm just tired of all the fighting and arguing. I guess I just wish that the mods/admins who do speak up would handle the unhappiness a little differently than they do. And I hope that statement/request doesn't get me banned.

Icemark

Nobody has been banned for what they said on another forum. However, spammers have been banned that continually attack this board with other boards crap.

A classic example would be Mad/Phoenix7/Hassel/whatever name he wants to use this week.

He started a thread on another forum calling for the attack of this one. While that was ignored for the most part, it did put the moderators on stage Orange here.

Then when he started continually posting both threads and spam about the other forum here, he got the 3 strikes rule. Warning to stop, ban for a week, ban forever. Actually in his case it was warning, warning, warning, ban for a week, warning, ban forever.

This is considerably more liberal than what normal spammers get. Normally spammers get the one strike and you are out, rule.

Then he comes back and makes over 20 posts again all about a digizine. Which would be fine if he was a vendor, but putting posts in the middle of a technical threads about his new digizine project, is hardly actions of a vendor, but rather again... The actions of a spammer.

Spammers will get banned no matter what. No matter how much they may or may not have contributed to the community. Spamming is not tolerated here.

Not sure exactly what you are trying to say with that, but yes, piston engine swaps are the redheaded step child here and many other rotary boards. Sorry this is the way it is.

No, actually it was founded on selling and a store. The fact that it formed a community is a bonus from what it was founded upon. I believe that this board has grown much much larger than anyone ever envisioned.
I disagree. IB has made the board 100% more reliable, at the cost of a few us having to view additional advertisements and the ridding of a few habitual classifieds abusers. BTW: did you know it was the last owner that helped set in place the rules regarding how much, you can sell??? Most people think that was IB too. Anyway, while the moderator staff here is only making the board stronger with new sections based on member need, additional steps to help reduce and eliminate spammers, and a much stronger focus on removing the members that (frankly) just don't play well with others.

I thought it interesting when the other day I was talking with a member who was complaining about the highlight text ads, claiming that IB has wrecked the board with them. Yet they were started with the previous owner of the board, and when IB came in, IB provided a way that members can disable them.

Yet this member was convinced that the big bad corp company wrecked the board with them.

IB has done both good and bad for this board... same as any other owner has. I'd like them to be more accommodating to the Mom and Pop garage stores... but we will see if that happens.

again, most questions are answered in a simple and direct way. This section (Comments, Suggestions and Issues) is full of clear and simple answers. And sometimes, the George Carlin approach is correct. If you don't like it, change the channel. Sorry if that offends you, but would you bitch if you were watching your favorite show on TV and someone chopped off someone's arm and started waving it around in the middle of this, your favorite show? Or if you were that offended by seeing such a thing, would you just change the channel and not watch that show anymore.

So if you don't like it, leave; is a valid response. Like it or not.
I would be careful of that. The information on this board, is protected, as content here. Copying pictures or posts from any board and to put on another board can be prosecuted and at the very least can get lawyers on your ***. There was one board that (for example) copied all the FAQ for FC thread here and posted it up elsewhere, without permission of the authors, or this board. They were sent legal cease and desist papers to remove them. Court action would have happened if they did not comply. All because no one asked the authors for permission.

Now the FAQ for FC could have been probably shared with that board, but the fact that it was taken without any permissions became an issue and copyright violation even though this is a "public" board.

If you have ripped pictures or threads from here, and post them up elsewhere you can and probably will be prosecuted by the lawyers.

The admin and moderator staff here have a very good working accepting relationship with many boards. There are partner board such as the RX8club, or community boards such as nopistons or teamfc3s, that there is no animosity about and we often share information and help between.

But (as covered countless times in the last couple of months, and I guess you didn't see any of the posts) there are R C C members or staff that have positioned that board to directly attack this board. There have been threads that the admins and moderators at R C C have allowed, that advocate the spamming of this board, and many other offensives. Now that doesn't become an issue until such spamming or attacks actually happens here. And unfortunately it has.

So it is because of these R C C members, admin, and moderators that have come here attacking and spamming this board with links and ads for their hobby board, that there is the war.

If these "R C C members" didn't do this, then R C C would be the same as any other board. There is only an issue because of their members. These members do not want to help the community. These members want to bring down this board which like it or not is a major resource for the RX-7 and rotary community.

You do not see threads here, suggesting we all ban together and attack and spam R C C. Yet I can remember such sections over there as "what you hate about the RX-7 club", well alone countless threads there about it.

Does that sound like a live and let live attitude by their members?

Sorta like Iran if you ask me. A country supporting terrorism, but in this case that board supporting that hot bed of terrorism. Supporting internet terrorism, instead of shutting down these foul members.

Spammers will be shut down. If they spam Viagra ads, or other hostile boards.

So R C C stops being hostile, and they help the community, well then in the eyes of the moderator and admin staff here; they just become another board instead of a detriment to the community and a place where spammers and internet terrorists hide and post.

As every admin, moderator and many members, feel. We all love the RX-7 and are tired about BS threads such as these. Have you seen some of the Rotary toys that DKJ has or the time given by moderators to help here. We all love the RX-7 and rotaries.


So why would you get banned for complaining about that you don't like the way something got handled? Sounds more like you didn't know the whole story and didn't like the first answer you heard.

lt1_rx7

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**disclaimer: i'm back to my usual goofy self who will usually stay out of this section ater this post =]

Icemark, the "v8...get out" comment was just an example... and i can only give my opinion on what i've read/seen. Do I completely agree with my rotary brethren who have said such things? no. have i said a few things elsewhere with regards to what I dont like here? probably have.

we're all human...i dont think anyone will ever be completely satisfied with anything they get in life...and do things start and grow because of dislike? Of course, look at the US or any other country that has claimed independence. How many of those disagreements came to blood shed? again, just an example of how pissed off people will ban together, share ideas, and gather others...

oh well, $hit happens and life goes on...hopefully things will settle down soon enough. I have friends on both forums...

junito1

[QUOTE=Rowtareh?;8539749]I locked it to keep people from voicing their opinions about the forum....again.

So... What ever happened to the contitutional rights.... Cant say whats on my mind anymore?