So I'm driving up a very steep hill, south on highway 50 downtown Bolton, with the rex one chilly morning with my freshly installed megasquirt. I shift from 1st to 2nd going about 30 kmh and the car stumbles as I don't have the accel enrichments quite right. When the car cuts back in the wheel lose traction up this very steep hill for less then a second.

So I continue cruising up the hill at the legal speed limit and a cop flies up behind...long story short 30 minutes later I've lost my car, license, and have 4 citations!!! street racing and a bunch of other BS! What the f is with this damn law! I wasn't even freakin speeding! So even though I'm sure I will not be charged when I go to court since I never broke any laws, who is gonna pay for the $813 bill I had from the impound lot and the hassle of being licenseless for a week! ME thats who!!! since when are we guilty until proven innocent?

 

wow. if it happened like you described that is kind of bullshit. it's exactly the type of thing that is wrong with this "law".

i hope it works out for you. i would definitely fight it, do your homework and get legal assistance if you can. good luck.

 

Yah he's not lying. Bolton cops have nothing better to do.

 

I respect cops n all, but **** like this is why no one else does.
Im filling up tonight, and I hear two cars slow down and then gun it. To my surprise, it was two cops, doing a 30km/h rolling stop at a stop sign. I would have lost my license if I did that ****

 

Sorry to hear what happened to you. Please keep us up to date with your court.

 

Hate to break it to you, but "losing traction" is part of this "law" the stunting part... Hate to say it, but it's not looking too good.

 

You're probably charged with stunting, which has a very broad definition within the street racing section of the act. PM me your number and I'll tell you how to defend yourself.

 

Very simple, once you win in criminal court (lol) sue the city of Bolton in Civil court an name the officer in the suit as well. Sue them for court costs, loss of income (while you were without a licennse, in court and do all the filing) the impound costs and then throw in some mental anguish just for good luck. Make sure if you win the criminal part you go to all the papers etc with your story.

 

that sucks man... It's pretty easy to brake traction every one in a while in these cars :/

 

wtf.....thats such bull man. fight the crap out of that ticket and sue the **** out of the cop.

 

+1 on that. An excellent example of why denial due process is the most assinine aspect of this law. Even if you don't succeed in first having your charges dismissed, and then sueing the municipality and officer, the hassle and expense you cause them might make them at least a little more inclined to think of whether their actions are reasonable.

 

alright first off I am hesitant to believe this story.. but until you fully know this law please do not go and waste your time fighting it.

The law is not just speeding it also includes what they call "Stunt driving"

Examples: Aggressive lane changing. Squeeling tires, Lane changes without signaling., donuts, etc.

It is not a Speed Only Law It covers a lot of basis.. and is a superb law. If you are dumb enough to not have your car properly modified then it should not be on the road period.. You said yourself you were missing something and thats why you broke loose... well sorry buddy the car shouldn't have been on the road until that problem was fixed.

 

^^so how exactly do you plan on fixing a problem that involves driving to tune for it?

rent a dyno? are you going to pay for him to do that? The law sounds 100% worthless and it just something to keep the spotlight off all the things the government ISN'T doing. I see it all the time here.

 

ROFL its like 50/hr to pay for a dyno to rent it.. if you pukes can modify your cars for public use on roads.. then you can afford to have it dyno tuned give me a ******* break.

 

Be careful who you are calling dumb! How are you supposed to know the car isnt running properly without driving it? The law itself assinine. Next time you lock up a wheel trying to stop in an attempt to avoid another vehicle, animal or small child, you are stunt driving by the letter of the superb law. There are police out there who would convict you on the spot. The law was a knee jerk politically motivated reaction to a situation. There should definately be laws regarding excessive speeding, dangerous driving.....oh wait, we had those already. The new law hasnt changed anything in the way of speeders etc, all it has done is given Cam Wooley and Fantino more air time.

 

There was not a word of speeding in the OP's post.
The police charged him with Stunting due to lost on traction on his tires as indicated by his tire squealing. They have to prove he had "intend" to loose traction on one or more tires before there are reasonable grounds to convict him of stunting.

It has nothing to do with a tune or anything since he did not "intend" to loose traction on his tires. He would at worst get an unnecessary noise ticket for squealing tires ....

 

not sure where you find your dynos but here is usually about 100-200 per hour plus other costs for setting up this and that.

That and he is using an MS. I'm on the same boat. I'm smart with my money so i don't waste it on needless things that i could get for free. I'm at least lucky to not have **** traffic laws to contend with.

 

Pd_day obviously you do not know the law as well.. there is ZERO TOLERANCE meaning there has to be no proof of intent. this is the best law the Ontario Gov. has ever issued.

Its to stop exactly what people like you do, modify your cars for use on public roads.. maybe they should make it illegal to modify a car period... IMO you guys should keep your cars on the tracks and only the tracks if you're gonna mod them. There is no reason to modify a car you will be using on Public roads.

Unless its maybe rims?,tint,stereo? something that does not affect power, or suspension.

Also you may want to get glasses, because he ******* said "I WASNT FREAKING SPEEDING" meaning thats the reason he thinks he should not get this ticket.



and If morons like you want to waste your money and fight it then go ahead, but you won't win.. its ZERO TOLERANCE. the cop basically gets to be the Judge, Jury, and the Executioner.

as for 01_RACING YOUR TOOL *** DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HES TALKING ABOUT, you would not be convicted for squaling your tires stopping... are you joking me.. you're saving an accident and your tires lock up.. thats completely different from your tires breaking loose.. what a narrow minded child.

 

sounds like you would really like China.

 

Actually, why don't you educate me. Here is a link to the HTA's definition of Stunt and Race.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/reg...s_070455_e.htm

Please tell me under which clause of stunt and/or race he falls under?

When the OP said "I wasn't even speeding", he is justifying he did not break one of the conditions of Street Racing.

And please, don't insult people in here/

 

the cop will do what ever it takes to win in court, this will include lying on his mothers grave.
as the judge will say that he has to believe the cop because that's his duty
and has no reason to lie.
you better find a witness (someone who was walking and seen everything
even if they have to lie, if you know what I mean)
been there and seen it.
only hope you have is if you take pictures of the area
have a witness
spend the time needed to show the judge you have a story
that he should listen to.

matt

 

$20 says b18cya drives a honda.

 

agreed, and clearly he is jealous of our cars
he only raging cause he drives a **** box

 

You guys should know better than to argue with that guy.
Hemorrhoids eventually go away if you don't squeeze too hard on the throne.

 

Amazing opinion that this is a great law.
No law that allows a single court official, in his sole discretion, to seize personal property belongs in a democracy.
Where are the statistics to show that all of us on this forum are the cause of fatalities when we momentary "loose traction". In fact, a car that is sliding is not necessarily out of control. Many of us can power slide around a corner in complete control.
Where is the definition of "aggressive" driving? Where the statistics that prove aggressive driving are is a cause of a collision. Take a look at some of those incredible cop chase videos and watch the effect of the chase on the traffic flow. Incredibly the bad guys and the cops run through traffic in an extremely aggressive manner, yet no brake lights come on and the traffic, for the most part, is unaffected.
How many fatalities are attributable to two or more people racing on the street? Stats Can doesn't include it as an item. About 30% of fatalities were not wearing seatbelts. That's where the cops need to focus.
The Street Racing law is unnecessary - they already have an arsenal of other charges available.
There was a roll over accident on the Gardiner a few weeks ago that illustrated these points. A van with 5-6 people rolled at 140km. the people ejected (no seat belts) were killed or seriously injured. Those with seat belts walked away, including the driver. He was charged with dangerous driving causing death etc. since he wasn't going fast enough to be a street racer.

I'll say it again: Collisions are caused by driver error. Speed enforcement is police harassment and has not been effective in reducing collisions or fatalities.