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Old May 17, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Warning to all drivers

I was on my way to the Ertefa show tonight when someone tried to run me off the road TWICE on Highway 7 and Pinevalley. The man was tailgating me, went in front of me at the lights and ended up coming out of this car and yelling at me saying that I drive to slow. He is about 40 years old, white, Probably Italian from his attitude (No offense to any Italians ). He is driving a White Dodge/Chrysler Neon with damage to the back bumper and most importantly his plate number is BCWF351. This man is clearly messed up as he decided to reverse into my car when he was done yelling at me. If you find this car/person call the police IMMEDIATELY. I don't know if he is armed, but he is NOT afraid to use his car as a weapon to hurt you or anyone around you.


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Old May 17, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Did you phone the cops? They'll go have a chat with him. It's quite possible that this guy has a record and this type of incident may help to get him off the streets.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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Yeah I did phone them. They asked me if I went home, and I said yes. They told me that I did the right thing and to just sit tight and wait for them to find him. I just don't like how I never do anything stupid when I drive and some idiot decides to try to right off my baby

If anyone finds this guy, approach him only if you know you can take him. Man is pissed with life yelling "I have problems you know" at me. Like what would like me to do?
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Old May 18, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Should have hit the brakes and let him hit you, then you could have had problems together.

He would have loved my licence plate lol
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Old May 18, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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Hahha, I would never risk my car's life man :P He did end up hitting it anyways when he reversed into me at the lights. But it's only a scratch. Plastic clear bras FTW!!!

I hope they find him tho, he's a danger to everyone.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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If he hit you and left, that's hit and run. They should be charging him, this is way more than a chat. Follow up with the police again.
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Old May 19, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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With a license plate number and $35, you can go to the ministry and get the address and other details on that driver. Just a thought.

Did this in the past and mailed them a driving manual with a nice note explaining why they should read it.
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Old May 19, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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Old May 19, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Request a 'warning letter' be sent to him. People do this all the time (request them) It should have the desired effect. (call *OPP)


e: n/m Hwy 7 is YRP territory, I dont know if YRP sends warning letters out or not.
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Old May 19, 2012 | 09:05 PM
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With a license plate number and $35, you can go to the ministry and get the address and other details on that driver. Just a thought.

Did this in the past and mailed them a driving manual with a nice note explaining why they should read it.
You know what? I will do that first thing in the morning on Tuesday. I think he needs a little reminder that he cannot get away from his stupid actions so easy. All the officers that normally patrol hwy 7 in York Region are already imformed as I just tell them when I see them at Timmies Ill update when I get this psychos address.

Jay
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Old May 22, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Update: Got his address and all his info. Thanks Aaron for telling me that !!! I think its not legal for me to give away his personal information online, but I personally will be visiting him tonight. He lives in Brampton
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Old May 22, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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I wouldn't recommend showing up to his door for a couple reasons. If your knocking on my door after an incident like you've mentioned, I'm taking that as a threat. Regardless of your reasoning the first thought in my mind is that there is no reason other than confrontation for you to be at my door. Secondly, someone who has lost the handle on a stranger in the openness of public roads may not have an issue dragging you into their home, and down into the basement.

I'd also like to mention, I am absolutely baffled that someone from Brampton can accuse another driver of driving too slow. I often find that people are doing 10-20 km/h underneath the speed limit. I can go on for a while about how the roads of Brampton need to change, and how police really need to start getting some of the people here, including the aforementioned gentleman, off the road.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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I know what you mean... People that know me on or off the forums know me as a very quiet and harmless person. I do not intent to go there alone, nor am I looking for a confrontation. I am going with a group of people, and most likely an off-duty police officer. I am simply asking for an apology for him hitting my car and that's all. He claimed to have problems so bad, that they were worse than purposely reversing into me at a red light. I would also like to say that I don't think I am being too ignorant with this situation as he has pissed me off to the point where I do not feel safe with someone like that on the road.
If anyone can find me one of those drivers handbooks, ill gladly send him one of those rather than seeing him in person


Edit:
Name: Vito Maltese
Address: 16 Elrose Rd Brampton, Ontario
Car: 2000 Chrysler Neon (4 door)
Colour: White

If a mods feels that this is inappropriate, then I will remove it. But until that, he deserves this until he gets the message. Clearly I am not happy
And I am pretty sure the next person that needs to be taken care of is that scammer in Brampton lolo

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Old May 22, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Tell Vito that you will forgive him if he Drives into The Scammer's car!
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Old May 22, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Tell Vito that you will forgive him if he Drives into The Scammer's car!
LOL Dave you always seem to make the best out of any situation Maybe I will
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Old May 22, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by djphonics
I wouldn't recommend showing up to his door for a couple reasons. If your knocking on my door after an incident like you've mentioned, I'm taking that as a threat. Regardless of your reasoning the first thought in my mind is that there is no reason other than confrontation for you to be at my door. Secondly, someone who has lost the handle on a stranger in the openness of public roads may not have an issue dragging you into their home, and down into the basement.
I have to second this; what are you going to accomplish by going to his door? It is inherently confrontational - especially with a posse, and potentially dangerous to you without. You will either have a scene, or just as likely he will slam the door in your face and leave you standing there with your pecker in your hand, so to speak. He is unlikely to apologize, and in the unlikely event he does, it will be insincere. You should be dealing with this through the police if there was damage to your car (or to his), as well as concerning his abusive behavior on the road. He doesn't have the option of ignoring the police - or a charge.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Yeah, I thought about it while talking to my gf. Tomorrow ill just hand his information over to the cops :P I can't afford any trouble at this point. I guess a having alotta sugar in your system can make you say odd things :/
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Old May 23, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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how the hell are you guys getting addresses.....


the ministry isn't supposed to give that info out unless you are law enforcement

a driver's abstract shouldnt have an address..

and neither should a UVIP

the city at most.. but never an exact address


thats messed up
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Old May 23, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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I hope you went to the cops today or yesterday - stuff like this really should be reported immediately; the cops may assume if it wasn't, that it wasn't serious to you, and therefore needn't be to them either. Beyond that, I thought of another reason not to go to the guy's door (I know you said you rethought that already).

Besides the fact he's already shown himself to be a road-rager, you don't know if he actually lives at that address. People with a history of trouble with the law, or who just don't work and play well with other's don't necessarily let "the man" know about their address changes.

Last fall, someone ran into my parents Mazda5 parked out front of my house in the wee hours when they were staying with me for a visit. Thanks to the airbag deployment in his new Chevy Cruze, the driver didn't have the option of running (Onstar called emergency services for him), but he had expired insurance (only paid the first month, presumably just to register the car), and his driver's license listed an address he hadn't lived at for at least a couple of years - which he didn't bother to let the officers who responded know about. That mattered because I needed to serve papers on him to sue for the damages. I was also tempted to go to the address listed on the accident report and give him some what for; which would have been fruitless because he no longer lived there - and would have just had me standing on some stranger's porch angry, and doubting they were telling me the truth.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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Well, I do know for sure that he does indeed live there, as I have a uni buddy who lives pretty close and has informed me that a white neon with the same plates is at that address. But hell, I'm sick with the stomach flu and have alerted the cops. They want to take a statement tomorrow at school as we have two of them there all day. Tbh, I don't really give a crap if he is a known road rager, a drug dealer, or a wanted suspect. He needs to be dealt with whether he likes it or not Apparently, he has done the exact same thing to someone else recently this week, as the local school cop said that the same plate had been reported three times for the past 2 weeks. So I will wait this one out and see what happens.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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Good, follow it up - you have to be clear with the cops you are willing to be a witness for them to lay a charge - a witness needs to be able to clearly identify the driver (not just the plate), because you will be asked to do so in the courtroom if it goes to trial. It sounds like you got lots of opportunity to do so when he got out of his car and raged at you. You need to be willing to write out a clear statement, and you need to say you're willing to show in court - whether it goes to trial or not, the police and prosecutor can't charge someone without a witness and/or evidence, and in this case, you're it, plus possibly any photos of marks or damage on your car and his car (that could be a reason to pay him a visit - just don't go to the door - get your photos and disappear as soon as you have). That this has happened more than once recently means this guy needs to have his license lifted (and some time in the clink, or the loonie bin, but neither is very likely to happen). I'm not sure what they'll charge him with, but there could be a high likelihood of it going to court, since there may be multiple or serious charges.

You should compile a detailed, coherent set of notes or narrative of this event; what you wrote here originally can be the start of that file, and allow you to say that you wrote your notes immediately after the incident, which is also important - saying you wrote your recollections a week later will not be nearly as credible. Having that notes file printed in triplicate may also save you re-writing it all for a police statement when you go in to the police.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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You realize of course that if you already gave the police his licence plate when you reported the incident, that they already know who he is?


What exactly do you want them to do for you?

There is nothing illegal about him getting out of his car and yelling at you, and as for any HTA violations, they won't write a charge based on your word, so nothing will be done about this. If they were going to speak to him, then they would have done so at the time of your complaint.


I dont understand what you want them to do
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Old May 24, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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^ He backed into his car then took off. That's a hit and run and I doubt the damage to both cars and his statement will be less than the police need to file charges as long as sctRota is willing to push for them. You have to be a pushy bastard to get them to do much if it isn't a particularily serious crime. If who you speak to does nothing you simply go up the chain until someone wakes up and does their job. Crime is crime regardless of the degree of seriousness. Next time the guy might use his car to hit a person that pisses him off. His previous actions show a pattern that gives cause to act on the charges. You just have to be in their faces until something is done.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Yea they took care of him or so they say.... If I do run into him on the road, he better hope I am not using the ol'truckero. Means old truck
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Old May 25, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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That's crazy. Too many nut jobs in the GTA
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