Yeah i know...who does things legally anymore, but my car stands out enough that it'll prolly get flagged by the bacon at some point.

I'm not exactly sure what is missing at this point, i'll find out next week.

I do know for sure that i need OEM Turbo main cats.

Does anyone on the forum have their removed emissions stuff from an S5 engine that they would want to sell? Are S4/S5 emissions components interchangeable?

I just want to get the car to the point that i can scrape by an e-test.

 

passing legal is a pain

I need to get a hook up (sshhh) because even if you got it all the emmissions stuff you still may not pass.

Not worth the time or money.

Can anyone hook me up?



hybrid

 

My fd passed with flying colors lol

 

anyone know wat the ticket is for failing a roadside emissions test? do they tow your car?

GOTBANNED?: thanks for rubbing it in man...compared to old *** FC's..the FD's are a breeeeze

 

yea well its also hard to pass a single turbo fd lol

 

^^^^roadside emissions in ontario?????? how, why, when..... please elborate


hybrid

 

what do you want me to elaborate about? Occifer pulls you over, thinks your cheating emissions, if they have one of their mobile machines nearby, they e-test you, if you fail....its prolly a ticket of reasonable cost but i've heard they can tow your car.

 

the used to do that..Like a Safety Check for Vehicles they Suspect are not Road worthy..the thing is,that they had High school Kids Checking the Cars,and Upon their word were pulling cars off the Road..a Big NO-NO!..you can Literally Start your car up and LEAVE..WHY?,because NO High school student is LICENSED in the Province of Ontario as a CERTIFIED Mechanic..if this ever Happens to anyone,make sure you SEE The credentials of the GOOBER that is going to tell you that you car is Unsafe..if he doesn't have the Credentials,ask him to step away from the car..and if so.report it to the Local Police department..this Happened a couple years ago in Smiths Falls.

 

$350...

You don't have to fail either, sometimes you won't even get that far. If they find a missing piece of equpiment (cat, airpump, EGR) thats as far as they go before they give you the ticket.

My friend with a 340 swapped Dodge aspen was the recipent, cop told us if he had the stuff there in the engine bay (EGR in this case) but it didn't hook up to anything he probably wouldn't know. But if its gone completely then its pretty obvious whats going on. (no joke, his own words)

The road side was setup at hwy 3 and 56 a couple years back during a CSCS event at the dragway. Figured they'd sting all the retarded ricers coming out this way from the city i guess.


As far as passing goes, its not that hard. If the tech is semi-lax (Candian tire tests) then they won't notice a couple missing items, and I've passed with as little as a good cat and an airpump with really good numbers.

Helps if the car's running well too But also, check in the 2nd gen archives or FAQ, J-Rat has a list of items that will help in pinch.

 

Does removing EGR really do anything beyond save a couple pounds of weight, and spike NOx emissions? Or do people remove it because it's broke and they don't want to fix it?

 

Probably little bit of column a little bit of column b and little bit of column "cleaning up the engine bay"

 

That's pretty much what I figured. Back to the OP's question, why go with an OEM cat, there's lots of choices in performance (low restriction) aftermarket cats that could keep him clean and minimize impact on performance? Says the guy who replaced his cat with a RB midpipe. But we have no emissions testing here, so I'm good

 

My car was registered in Quebec for about 10 years and they don't have e-testing there. As such I removed all emissions equipment when I rebuilt the engine. Well, now that I live in Vancouver, environuts rule and I need to do "Aircare" every year. Here's a thread I started showing my first attempt (failed) and my second (passed).

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/air-pump-emissions-definitive-results-621648/

Basically it shows that you need two things: A working cat and working air pump.

 

i just checked the swap motor and it has the airpump and EGR. all i'm missing is cats and i should be ready to rock....and a muffler....and a downpipe

 

Can't a car with an engine swap be designated a "hot rod" and therefore no emissions testing required? I've heard of this being done but not in the last few years.

 

Nevermind, the gov't screwed us there too... ever feel like the country is giving it to you in each hole?

"hot rod" means a motor vehicle in which the original motor has been replaced with a motor of a type not installed by the manufacturer on that model of motor vehicle for the model year designated for the motor vehicle by the manufacturer;

(2) A hot rod that receives a motor replacement on or after January 1, 1999, shall receive a motor designed to meet emission standards at least as stringent as those achieved by the original motor with all its original emission control equipment attached and functioning, and the replacement motor shall have the original catalytic converter and all the original emission control equipment, or equivalent replacements, included or usually included with the replacement motor by the manufacturer of the motor. O. Reg. 361/98, s. 4 (2); O. Reg. 86/99, s. 3.

 

damn government.......i'll show them..i'l show allll of them...BWAHHHAAHAHHAHHHA

 

I think there are really two concerns here:
1. How to not get in trouble with the police.
2. How to pass an e-test.

1. Run a cat or something that looks close enough to a cat.
2. Get a conditional pass. It blows me away how many people think they need a "hookup". The maximum the gov't can make you spend is $450. The test costs $30, the diagnostic costs $80-100 and the final test after "repairs" have been made costs $30. The place doing the test needs to decide what you can buy to improve your emissions performance. The conclusion of the test will likely be a new cat or O2 sensor. Mazda's cost on those parts is expensive, thus they cannot do anythig to your car and fall under the $450 limit.

 

Does this actually work? I mean the part about them not being able to make you spend any money to repair the exhaust cuz the parts are too pricey, "Mazda's cost on those parts is expensive, thus they cannot do anythig to your car and fall under the $450 limit".

 

this thread has DUST on it!.
By the way,Ya,you can get a Conditional pass,but the thing is if you sell the car, the next person has to Etest the car before he can legally put it on the Road.
You cannot Buy a Conditionally passed car and then In turn Licence it as a Conditional Pass...IT MUST pass..or it is Junk.(lawn ornament).

 

yeh, old thread : P i searched emissions tho and it came up.

Thanks for the info about the conditional pass + ownership change. Good to know : )

Im still unsure about the "Mazda's cost on those parts is expensive, thus they cannot do anythig to your car and fall under the $450 limit"... Sounds too good to be true. I have two friends who owned FCs and they got conditional passes. They both had to spend the $400 or whatever it was. But perhaps they just got jipped. Maybe if i take it to something like Canadian Tire, they will truely try to replace the parts with Mazda OEM ones, and fail to do so for under $400... Has anyone reading this thread actually seen this happen?

 

I need to get my FD e-tested on April too, hope I can pass it. Is Canadian Tire good enough? Or any shops or mechanics referral?

 

i went to an e-test shop yesterday and asked them some questions. I got some interesting information.

There are some rules that the shop is supposed to follow. I dont know how stringently they follow these rules and im sure it varies shop to shop, but here they are:

1) Your car needs to have a cat installed in order to qualify for an e-test. Also, it cannot be tested if it has blue smoke in the exhaust, or if the check engine light is on, or if there is no O2 sensor installed. So, that means you cant take your car to a shop with catless exhaust on, fail the e-test, then get them to buy and install a cat and use that towards your $400 of conditional pass. They wont even test the car...

2) You cant have the shop buy parts for your emissions system and install them, and then use that towards a conditional pass before having gotten an e-test. You need a failed e-test first before they can start counting $$ towards your conditional pass.

3) The shop will ask what the test is for. Whether it is for sticker renewal, or ownership change. Im not sure what the guy i spoke to said after this, he was not really clear and i didnt understand what he was saying. But it sounded like if it is for ownership change, they will check the car more thoroughly, and also perhaps be more picky with the whole conditional pass thing.

If you do get an e-test done and fail, Im pretty sure that even if the mazda oem parts like the cat or o2 sensor are too expensive, im sure the shop will find something they can charge u parts and labour for to help u pass emissions, before they give u the conditional. Im sure you can argue with them, and again im sure it varies shop to shop, but i really doubt they will just say "oh the parts are too expensive, oh well, i guess u pass then, here u go". I guess i could see Canadian Tire doing that though, lol. I can also see them breaking my car though...