Engine management options in the GTA
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Engine management options in the GTA
OK for thoese that live in toronto and the GTA and have mild to wild modifications on there FCs , FBs or FDs
Please specifiy what generation you have eg. Fc or FD or FB
Please specifiy what engine management you all are running
Also where and who does your tuning
I am looking into making a decision in the spring and i want to get something i know i can get support for here in the GTA.
I am loooking an any option that comes with new wiring harness as my stock TII harness is too old to depend on.
thanks for the help
Hybrid
Please specifiy what generation you have eg. Fc or FD or FB
Please specifiy what engine management you all are running
Also where and who does your tuning
I am looking into making a decision in the spring and i want to get something i know i can get support for here in the GTA.
I am loooking an any option that comes with new wiring harness as my stock TII harness is too old to depend on.
thanks for the help
Hybrid
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You should get a new wiring harness or a good used one, I'm sure some members here have one. PFC is one of the better ECU options since its simple to tune and pretty much plug and play, also comes with a nice commander. The PFC is plug and play on the FD and with this FC adapter harness from Banzai Racing makes it is also plug and play...
http://www.banzai-racing.com/product...ss_adapter.htm
http://www.banzai-racing.com/product...ss_adapter.htm
Haltech is also another good option but you need to use their harness and I believe their own sensors and such as well (could be wrong about this). Maybe a forum user who uses a Haltech can give you more info on that route.
thewird
http://www.banzai-racing.com/product...ss_adapter.htm
http://www.banzai-racing.com/product...ss_adapter.htm
Haltech is also another good option but you need to use their harness and I believe their own sensors and such as well (could be wrong about this). Maybe a forum user who uses a Haltech can give you more info on that route.
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Microtech
Haltech
AEM
Wolf 3D
Apexi Power FC
We've used all the above in various cars, the AEM and the Wolf have very nice software. The new Wolf V500 ECU just came out not too long ago, we are going to be installing it in a single turbo FD shortly. It seems like a great ECU.
Ditching your stock harness is probably the best thing you'll ever do! So many fragile wires and grounds, its not worth the headache of tracing wiring problems after the fact.
We break in rebuilt engines and tune them on an engine dyno, but also have access to a chassis dyno right here in Kitchener.
Haltech
AEM
Wolf 3D
Apexi Power FC
We've used all the above in various cars, the AEM and the Wolf have very nice software. The new Wolf V500 ECU just came out not too long ago, we are going to be installing it in a single turbo FD shortly. It seems like a great ECU.
Ditching your stock harness is probably the best thing you'll ever do! So many fragile wires and grounds, its not worth the headache of tracing wiring problems after the fact.
We break in rebuilt engines and tune them on an engine dyno, but also have access to a chassis dyno right here in Kitchener.
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Personally I prefer anything that's going to be using a new harness. Anything that's plug and play like the PFC or the PnP AEM will be relying on the old wiring, unless you pony up for a new harness - in which case the cost vs. benefit makes going with a standalone that already has its own harness worthwhile.
I ran a Haltech for a few years. Software is easy to understand, great first time box IMO.
I'm moving to an Electromotive TECgt now for various reasons, but a hlatech should serve you well.
Not a big fan of microtech for a couple reasons, the largest being that you can't save or load maps on it. So if the map is lost after being in storage fora while with a dead battery or something, you're back to square one. Plus any progress you make in the tune can only be undone by writing down what you've changed and then working backwards. It was nice to be able to have a list of maps with dates for the purposes of drivability tuning, since if one change wasn't good - you could just reload the previous map and try again.
Picky maybe, but thats my .02
There's lots of places that can get you going on whatever. Just be prepared to pay for it thats all..........or learn yourself. But that way isn't so cheap either!!!
I ran a Haltech for a few years. Software is easy to understand, great first time box IMO.
I'm moving to an Electromotive TECgt now for various reasons, but a hlatech should serve you well.
Not a big fan of microtech for a couple reasons, the largest being that you can't save or load maps on it. So if the map is lost after being in storage fora while with a dead battery or something, you're back to square one. Plus any progress you make in the tune can only be undone by writing down what you've changed and then working backwards. It was nice to be able to have a list of maps with dates for the purposes of drivability tuning, since if one change wasn't good - you could just reload the previous map and try again.
Picky maybe, but thats my .02
There's lots of places that can get you going on whatever. Just be prepared to pay for it thats all..........or learn yourself. But that way isn't so cheap either!!!
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Just a few thoughts on some features you might want to consider:
We've worked with these on Mazdas:
Greddy
Haltech
Megasquirt
Apexi Power FC
Plus
Edelbrock
Diablo
TwEECer
R4 Controller
Tuner Pro
(Basicly, haven't run into a system that we couldn't figure out.)
Here is the RX7 Engine Management forum:
https://www.rx7club.com/engine-management-forum-37/
- Hardware:
- Plug-&-play as much as possible. As already stated, the less wiring you have to do, the better
- OEM or other, standard sensors.
- Optional input/outputs eg O2 sensor; fan & methanol injection control
- Software:
- PC interface with standard cables
- Intuitive, easy to use
- Data logging including optional inputs
- Auto/Self-tuning capability (closed loop operation)
We've worked with these on Mazdas:
Greddy
Haltech
Megasquirt
Apexi Power FC
Plus
Edelbrock
Diablo
TwEECer
R4 Controller
Tuner Pro
(Basicly, haven't run into a system that we couldn't figure out.)
Here is the RX7 Engine Management forum:
https://www.rx7club.com/engine-management-forum-37/
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I've used megasquirt with great results however a lot of them have issues right from the builder. If your capable of building your own then they're a good option.
Haltech's work well too, but they're a bit slow to tune. The software is outdated.
Definitely a plus anytime you can ditch the old harness. They can be quite the pita. Lots of people think there's is fine since it works great, but the minute you start moving it around ie: to pull the engine for a rebuild. All hell can break loose.
Haltech's work well too, but they're a bit slow to tune. The software is outdated.
Definitely a plus anytime you can ditch the old harness. They can be quite the pita. Lots of people think there's is fine since it works great, but the minute you start moving it around ie: to pull the engine for a rebuild. All hell can break loose.
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Car:
89 T2
RB Turbo Back
3" TID
no name cone filter
Old system:
Paul stokes FCD
Apexi SAFC
680cc injectors in secondaries
New system for 2009:
Rtek version 1.7 for S5T2
http://www.pocketlogger.com/index.ph...age=1&ecu=S5T2
89 T2
RB Turbo Back
3" TID
no name cone filter
Old system:
Paul stokes FCD
Apexi SAFC
680cc injectors in secondaries
New system for 2009:
Rtek version 1.7 for S5T2
http://www.pocketlogger.com/index.ph...age=1&ecu=S5T2
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Jo (Dragonwerks) and I have spent some considerable amount of time on my haltech E8.
I went the route of full ems because I wanted something that could control anything and methanol and have closed loop boost control and wideband correction. Also the fact that I didn't have to worry about an old harness.
Car 1988 10th AE
Haltech Fuel Management.
408rwhp on dyno jet at 15psi.
Mustang dyno (Dragonwerks) 400rwhp at 18psi. Still have to play with ignition and aux injection.
Can-saf sells haltechs and I believe does installations.
Mazdee's does installations and Dragonwerks is just beside him.
Ian
I went the route of full ems because I wanted something that could control anything and methanol and have closed loop boost control and wideband correction. Also the fact that I didn't have to worry about an old harness.
Car 1988 10th AE
Haltech Fuel Management.
408rwhp on dyno jet at 15psi.
Mustang dyno (Dragonwerks) 400rwhp at 18psi. Still have to play with ignition and aux injection.
Can-saf sells haltechs and I believe does installations.
Mazdee's does installations and Dragonwerks is just beside him.
Ian
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yes money is not the issue, i am leaning toward the haltech..... getting anew harness is na must to trouble shoot this rotton mess of aa harness is just plain stupid.
I am very hands on with my cars i love to do as much as i can and i eventually want to learn how to tune myself, but i needed help at the beginning.
Anyone has any experiences with the E8 dos and don'ts, can i use my OEm sensors who installs them and where u get them here in the gta
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I am very hands on with my cars i love to do as much as i can and i eventually want to learn how to tune myself, but i needed help at the beginning.
Anyone has any experiences with the E8 dos and don'ts, can i use my OEm sensors who installs them and where u get them here in the gta
Hybrid
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Jo (Dragonwerks) and I have spent some considerable amount of time on my haltech E8.
I went the route of full ems because I wanted something that could control anything and methanol and have closed loop boost control and wideband correction. Also the fact that I didn't have to worry about an old harness.
Car 1988 10th AE
Haltech Fuel Management.
408rwhp on dyno jet at 15psi.
Mustang dyno (Dragonwerks) 400rwhp at 18psi. Still have to play with ignition and aux injection.
Can-saf sells haltechs and I believe does installations.
Mazdee's does installations and Dragonwerks is just beside him.
Ian
I went the route of full ems because I wanted something that could control anything and methanol and have closed loop boost control and wideband correction. Also the fact that I didn't have to worry about an old harness.
Car 1988 10th AE
Haltech Fuel Management.
408rwhp on dyno jet at 15psi.
Mustang dyno (Dragonwerks) 400rwhp at 18psi. Still have to play with ignition and aux injection.
Can-saf sells haltechs and I believe does installations.
Mazdee's does installations and Dragonwerks is just beside him.
Ian
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