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10-17-05, 10:57 AM
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I think adam said it best when he mentioned that alls there is on here is bad experiences listed, and very VERY few good ones. That people hold their word as to not be classified. Perhaps this is an opertunity for those positive people to speak up if they choose. I'd like to personally add that I've been treated with respect everytime I've had to visit there. I buy alot of Miata parts for those of you who dont know (or care). That and the staff there is friendly and are personal friends of mine.
Thats all I really care to say myself.
Thats all I really care to say myself.
10-17-05, 12:24 PM
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Adam,
Are you saying that rotary engine building standards have changed in the past 7 years? Are you saying that 7 years ago it was acceptable to leave parts out of an engine? That it was acceptable to hack the wiring harness and leave massive vacuum leaks? Or are you admitting that you have done crappy work in the past?
I find it ironic that you criticize me for not driving my T2 when the whole reason the damn thing wasn't running was your fault! Could I have taken it back and argued with you over labor costs? Sure, but seeing as how I lost the use of my car for a year and a half waiting for you to rebuild things I didn't see the point. Especially since it was still wrong after the third time. How many times should I have to go back to get something done right? When hiring a supposedly professional shop is it the customers responsibility to keep correcting the shop until they get it right? Or should the shop know what they are doing and take the time to get it right the first time or maybe even the second time? Probably doesn't matter because it's only a matter of time before you blame everything on Syrtis and you skid him like the other guys you had working there even though we all know the problems were not their fault. If you were serious about this business you would at least have a certified mechanic that knows these cars working there. Instead you have a guy who is "learning" on your customers cars. No offense Syrtis but you really should be better trained to do anything other than be a parts driver.
As for being actively involved the rotary community you might be interested to know that I show up for rotary events. I even lend the use of my shop to guys who want to work on their cars. I encourage others to get into an RX7 and go racing. I've invited RX7 guys to attend track functions that I help organize. I even put on a private track day that was attended by a bunch of RX7 guys. And guess what, I don't own a shop or make any money off the RX7 community. So what the hell have you done?
In regards to your shopping store argument as soon the shoppers from XYZ department store start coming to us for assistance because XYZ shopping store screwed them over and after reviewing the details it is obvious that got screwed over then we might tell other customers to avoid them. What is wrong with that?
As for the amounts I spent it was $5000 on the engine alone - including the ever popular non industry standard street port - and the rest was all parts and labour for the other items I bought from you. I have never once said anything detrimental about your parts sales. In fact I believe this is the business you should be in as it appears to be what you are best at. Leave the engine building, installation, diagnostics and tuning to others as it appears that you don't have the time or inclination to do it right. Funny thing is that a few years ago you were going to sell the business and keep only the engine building side.
And the most laughable of all the things you have said is that we now are somehow responsible for peoples bad experiences at your shop? That we are spoiling someones chances of having a good experience? Why? Because we won't fix the crappy job you did for them? Give me a break The fact there are guys wandering around helpless because they got a bum rap from you goes to show that an alternative is needed.
The jabs at your red FD are because you have used that car as a symbol of your shops proficiency. You advertise in print huge power claims about the car and to try and entice new business. And yet nobody in the past few years has seen the thing run and the reason we suspect is because you are unable to get it running. Making false claims about your abilities would be considered an attempt to defraud people. Wouldn't you agree? What would you tell people if I suddenly claimed that my FD was built by myself and made 700 hp and that people should stop coming to you and spend their money with me because I know what I am doing when in fact it's nothing more than a stock FD? At least mine runs.
I also find it interesting that you completely ignored Chris's post. And in response to your "Adam saves the world through the United Nations" comment I'm interested in knowing how 5000 engines are going to get done by you when you are currently too busy to do things right. Should we expect a further downturn in the quality of your services? And in regards to the United Nations and Round Engine thing please explain how those things benefit even one of the local guys in the RX7 community that support your shop.
P.S. Now that you know your shop scratched the paint on one of the forum members cars are you going to fix it for him? Or would a trip to see you be as worthless as it would have been for me?
Are you saying that rotary engine building standards have changed in the past 7 years? Are you saying that 7 years ago it was acceptable to leave parts out of an engine? That it was acceptable to hack the wiring harness and leave massive vacuum leaks? Or are you admitting that you have done crappy work in the past?
I find it ironic that you criticize me for not driving my T2 when the whole reason the damn thing wasn't running was your fault! Could I have taken it back and argued with you over labor costs? Sure, but seeing as how I lost the use of my car for a year and a half waiting for you to rebuild things I didn't see the point. Especially since it was still wrong after the third time. How many times should I have to go back to get something done right? When hiring a supposedly professional shop is it the customers responsibility to keep correcting the shop until they get it right? Or should the shop know what they are doing and take the time to get it right the first time or maybe even the second time? Probably doesn't matter because it's only a matter of time before you blame everything on Syrtis and you skid him like the other guys you had working there even though we all know the problems were not their fault. If you were serious about this business you would at least have a certified mechanic that knows these cars working there. Instead you have a guy who is "learning" on your customers cars. No offense Syrtis but you really should be better trained to do anything other than be a parts driver.
As for being actively involved the rotary community you might be interested to know that I show up for rotary events. I even lend the use of my shop to guys who want to work on their cars. I encourage others to get into an RX7 and go racing. I've invited RX7 guys to attend track functions that I help organize. I even put on a private track day that was attended by a bunch of RX7 guys. And guess what, I don't own a shop or make any money off the RX7 community. So what the hell have you done?
In regards to your shopping store argument as soon the shoppers from XYZ department store start coming to us for assistance because XYZ shopping store screwed them over and after reviewing the details it is obvious that got screwed over then we might tell other customers to avoid them. What is wrong with that?
As for the amounts I spent it was $5000 on the engine alone - including the ever popular non industry standard street port - and the rest was all parts and labour for the other items I bought from you. I have never once said anything detrimental about your parts sales. In fact I believe this is the business you should be in as it appears to be what you are best at. Leave the engine building, installation, diagnostics and tuning to others as it appears that you don't have the time or inclination to do it right. Funny thing is that a few years ago you were going to sell the business and keep only the engine building side.
And the most laughable of all the things you have said is that we now are somehow responsible for peoples bad experiences at your shop? That we are spoiling someones chances of having a good experience? Why? Because we won't fix the crappy job you did for them? Give me a break The fact there are guys wandering around helpless because they got a bum rap from you goes to show that an alternative is needed.
The jabs at your red FD are because you have used that car as a symbol of your shops proficiency. You advertise in print huge power claims about the car and to try and entice new business. And yet nobody in the past few years has seen the thing run and the reason we suspect is because you are unable to get it running. Making false claims about your abilities would be considered an attempt to defraud people. Wouldn't you agree? What would you tell people if I suddenly claimed that my FD was built by myself and made 700 hp and that people should stop coming to you and spend their money with me because I know what I am doing when in fact it's nothing more than a stock FD? At least mine runs.
I also find it interesting that you completely ignored Chris's post. And in response to your "Adam saves the world through the United Nations" comment I'm interested in knowing how 5000 engines are going to get done by you when you are currently too busy to do things right. Should we expect a further downturn in the quality of your services? And in regards to the United Nations and Round Engine thing please explain how those things benefit even one of the local guys in the RX7 community that support your shop.
P.S. Now that you know your shop scratched the paint on one of the forum members cars are you going to fix it for him? Or would a trip to see you be as worthless as it would have been for me?
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10-17-05, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Alak
I think adam said it best when he mentioned that alls there is on here is bad experiences listed, and very VERY few good ones. That people hold their word as to not be classified. Perhaps this is an opertunity for those positive people to speak up if they choose. I'd like to personally add that I've been treated with respect everytime I've had to visit there. I buy alot of Miata parts for those of you who dont know (or care). That and the staff there is friendly and are personal friends of mine.
Thats all I really care to say myself.
Thats all I really care to say myself.
This is classic Alak. One minute he wants to be "shop dogger" for a competing business to RX7 Specialties and the next he's their best friend. And you wonder why your getting no help from any of us?
10-17-05, 12:49 PM
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It's the usual claim. Saying there's only 4 of us is a great way to quartine the problem. Can't blame him really it always appears that way doesnt it? I also don't blame Adam for not coming to the meets, it'd be tough to deny there's more than 4 of us if he did now wouldnt it, since his shop and their poor work or craftsmanship is inevitably brought up by new people at every meet. Adam always claims he's got all these supporters here in town. Customers yes, supporters.......no. There's more than a few of you reading this thread that Adam would consider a supporter, and from your comments in person and the fact you don't post in these threads I know different. That's fine, those who choose to keep quiet make that decision for there own reasons. **** I remember a time when even though I was not happy with RX's work I would still by new Mazda parts there because A) His prices were cheaper, or b) Mazda refused to sell to me becuase they were under order from Mazda to send people to Adam (never got to the bottom of that one really) Anyways that's no longer the case. A source has been found for parts cheaper than Adam, or at least what Adam chooses to sell at. He also claims that our beef is over 1 motor in 7 years. Do a search for RX-7 Specialties on this forum, I think you'll come up with a different number than that.
Ok so the 3 rotor FD isnt running. Fair enough, how does that stop you from organizing a meet, or dyno day? You said yourself you have an FC and other FD's, bring them out. Nobody here ever said you were less of a person for driving an FC Adam. With the exception of Erik the rest of us "4" drive FC's. You know damn well if you organized a meet we probably wouldnt show up, that doesnt mean I don't want to see the other owners in town be involved in something you organize.
At this point I'd be suprised if anybody's even reading this thread......oh well
Ok so the 3 rotor FD isnt running. Fair enough, how does that stop you from organizing a meet, or dyno day? You said yourself you have an FC and other FD's, bring them out. Nobody here ever said you were less of a person for driving an FC Adam. With the exception of Erik the rest of us "4" drive FC's. You know damn well if you organized a meet we probably wouldnt show up, that doesnt mean I don't want to see the other owners in town be involved in something you organize.
At this point I'd be suprised if anybody's even reading this thread......oh well
10-17-05, 01:15 PM
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if the '4some and followers' are so bad and act like children as adam speaks of then y would anyone be scared to voice their loyalty to rx7 specialties. i sure know that i wouldn't want to associate with them, let alone care about them not 'accepting' me and being 'disliked'. and i know that if rx7 specialties does gd work i wouldn't be scared that no one will help me work on my car. i agree with soloracer about hiring at least a certified mechanic, especially when adam is often away from the shop or upstairs on the phone. though i don't think there'll be much difference if adam himself worked on everything.
10-17-05, 01:38 PM
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I want to be the first to call shenannigans on adam!
spoken like a true salesperson.. you have completely avoided answering any of the facts that were brought up and spin the the whole conversation into how much you have "helped" the rotary world, and now are about the help the united nations into saving the world.. .neato.. Mother adam teresa you must be...
But quite frankly, you can pose and posture all you want, coming on here and trying to wow us with the size of your rotary ***** isn't really working for me..
Oh, by the way adam.. If you take a look at the points I put up, I would say that over half of them were not issues from 4 or 5 years ago.. but issues from the past year .. If you wanted more recent examples of your shenannigans, you could have just asked, I can provide you with some more..
Oh before I forget..You mention me purchasing items from you in the last year after saying bad things to you on the forum.. wht a great guy you are for selling to me.. Let's get this straight.. I came to discuss what was said on the fourm with you in person.. When we finished the conversation, I was under the impression that we had come to an understanding.. you had asked if I needed any parts.. I did in fact require a few gaskets.. upper intake and lower manifold gaskets .. being the nice guy you were, you told me that you'd make me a deal and sell them to me at your cost... oh boy, that's great.. so I purchased them from you... So what do I find out when I go to the mazda dealer to price these out the next time? .. hmmm.. you sold them to me for twice the retail cost ... at that point I just rolled my eyes.. and that was the last time I have even bothered dealing with you.. it's just not worth getting rooked anylonger...
spoken like a true salesperson.. you have completely avoided answering any of the facts that were brought up and spin the the whole conversation into how much you have "helped" the rotary world, and now are about the help the united nations into saving the world.. .neato.. Mother adam teresa you must be...
But quite frankly, you can pose and posture all you want, coming on here and trying to wow us with the size of your rotary ***** isn't really working for me..
Oh, by the way adam.. If you take a look at the points I put up, I would say that over half of them were not issues from 4 or 5 years ago.. but issues from the past year .. If you wanted more recent examples of your shenannigans, you could have just asked, I can provide you with some more..
Oh before I forget..You mention me purchasing items from you in the last year after saying bad things to you on the forum.. wht a great guy you are for selling to me.. Let's get this straight.. I came to discuss what was said on the fourm with you in person.. When we finished the conversation, I was under the impression that we had come to an understanding.. you had asked if I needed any parts.. I did in fact require a few gaskets.. upper intake and lower manifold gaskets .. being the nice guy you were, you told me that you'd make me a deal and sell them to me at your cost... oh boy, that's great.. so I purchased them from you... So what do I find out when I go to the mazda dealer to price these out the next time? .. hmmm.. you sold them to me for twice the retail cost ... at that point I just rolled my eyes.. and that was the last time I have even bothered dealing with you.. it's just not worth getting rooked anylonger...
10-17-05, 02:06 PM
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"eoph" dont know who you are....why dont you identify yourself or even better yet...call me!
I think you just proved one thing for sure...you know so much about us even to the point where you qoute "Adam is often away from the shop or upstairs on the phone"! See, you are a fence sitter as you apparently come into our shop often enough to know such details. Just blew your cover huh? Maybe you are really are scarred that you wont be "accepted" or "disliked"!How the F would you know if money is why I do what I do? You act like we actually know each other...tell me how do you know that? Boy, you are so smart!
Alak is simply diplomatic like Matt and Sean O. Constructive people who get somewhere in like by not Generalizing or assuming. The best part about the comment Eric made about Alak is that the real "monolopy" is the forum guys. "And you wonder why your not getting any help from us" Thats a bold statement Eric...you just said yourself that if your not an RX7 Specialties "hater" your cut off from the monolopy group! This and the last thread are ones I printed so I can show the owner how you guys operate and how you are abusing this forum. Thanks for that...you may be outa here sooner than you think. After all, you've all been told time and time again what is and isnt tolerated. And if you dont like what the owners rules are...whynot go somewhere else? How come "Silverrotor" can be such an objective moderator by cautioning posts which are out of line? I think you all saw another enquiry about RX7 Spec. where Silverrotor said "do your own research". And the last thread....where did it go. You see...childish behavoir and grudges are getting nowhere.
Eric, you are a coward! You should call me too so we can reflect back on how you still wanted to use us after your feelings towards us were already years after sorted out. You too are a two sided double talker. You may participate in RX7 stuff...but you dont drive one. You are too consumed with the 944 and your posts speak for themselves. And you took my post away from the point and said some "cocky" comment about me "saving the world"?
The point is, we are doing so much more with RX7's and Rotaries to keep the engines and cars alive. Most shops dont expand outside of their performance bolt ons and some actually build the engines. We have an attitude to recycle and put cars back on the raod and expand the engines usages. Just because it dosent fit your world of tuning big number FC's it doesnt mean others dont appreciate what we are doing. Why do you think RXTuner profiles things like airplanes with rotaries and formuls cars...drag racing and NSU rotaries. It is a common interest to the genuine enthusiast to see the big picture...not your picture.
Leaving the engine builds to the real builders is your jealosy talking. You just cant except the fact that to date...we are building hundreds of the same engines like the one profiled in RXTuner. But ya wont talk about that will ya? If anyone wants names and numbers of shops who we build for...including shops who also build their own engines...just ask!
With no association to our business...you'll just never know what we do or how many happy customers we have. Each 6 months where one is not satisfied translates to 300 who are. Why do you think our shop is so busy? We cant keep up and hence the shop projects go on hold! That cannot sustain for 14plus years if the workmanship and build quality is consistantly shotty! Now back to your "temper tantrum"...answer why you didnt ask us for a re-evaluation of your car??? We bshowed that we were willing to take responsibility for some of the bad machine work on your engine when it was first done...why didn't you come to me to further the issue...and why did you come back a couple of years back for a quote on a 20B?
I think you guys would be much happier if you used constructive skills to sort out your problems...you are ever going to put us out of business....you are just spoiling others chances to access the hundreds of services...most of which save them money. You are just plain selfish ind childish. I am just surprised you guys cant clearly see the difference between the way you behave and the way the sucessful and happy guys behave!
Sincerely, Adam Heyman
I think you just proved one thing for sure...you know so much about us even to the point where you qoute "Adam is often away from the shop or upstairs on the phone"! See, you are a fence sitter as you apparently come into our shop often enough to know such details. Just blew your cover huh? Maybe you are really are scarred that you wont be "accepted" or "disliked"!How the F would you know if money is why I do what I do? You act like we actually know each other...tell me how do you know that? Boy, you are so smart!
Alak is simply diplomatic like Matt and Sean O. Constructive people who get somewhere in like by not Generalizing or assuming. The best part about the comment Eric made about Alak is that the real "monolopy" is the forum guys. "And you wonder why your not getting any help from us" Thats a bold statement Eric...you just said yourself that if your not an RX7 Specialties "hater" your cut off from the monolopy group! This and the last thread are ones I printed so I can show the owner how you guys operate and how you are abusing this forum. Thanks for that...you may be outa here sooner than you think. After all, you've all been told time and time again what is and isnt tolerated. And if you dont like what the owners rules are...whynot go somewhere else? How come "Silverrotor" can be such an objective moderator by cautioning posts which are out of line? I think you all saw another enquiry about RX7 Spec. where Silverrotor said "do your own research". And the last thread....where did it go. You see...childish behavoir and grudges are getting nowhere.
Eric, you are a coward! You should call me too so we can reflect back on how you still wanted to use us after your feelings towards us were already years after sorted out. You too are a two sided double talker. You may participate in RX7 stuff...but you dont drive one. You are too consumed with the 944 and your posts speak for themselves. And you took my post away from the point and said some "cocky" comment about me "saving the world"?
The point is, we are doing so much more with RX7's and Rotaries to keep the engines and cars alive. Most shops dont expand outside of their performance bolt ons and some actually build the engines. We have an attitude to recycle and put cars back on the raod and expand the engines usages. Just because it dosent fit your world of tuning big number FC's it doesnt mean others dont appreciate what we are doing. Why do you think RXTuner profiles things like airplanes with rotaries and formuls cars...drag racing and NSU rotaries. It is a common interest to the genuine enthusiast to see the big picture...not your picture.
Leaving the engine builds to the real builders is your jealosy talking. You just cant except the fact that to date...we are building hundreds of the same engines like the one profiled in RXTuner. But ya wont talk about that will ya? If anyone wants names and numbers of shops who we build for...including shops who also build their own engines...just ask!
With no association to our business...you'll just never know what we do or how many happy customers we have. Each 6 months where one is not satisfied translates to 300 who are. Why do you think our shop is so busy? We cant keep up and hence the shop projects go on hold! That cannot sustain for 14plus years if the workmanship and build quality is consistantly shotty! Now back to your "temper tantrum"...answer why you didnt ask us for a re-evaluation of your car??? We bshowed that we were willing to take responsibility for some of the bad machine work on your engine when it was first done...why didn't you come to me to further the issue...and why did you come back a couple of years back for a quote on a 20B?
I think you guys would be much happier if you used constructive skills to sort out your problems...you are ever going to put us out of business....you are just spoiling others chances to access the hundreds of services...most of which save them money. You are just plain selfish ind childish. I am just surprised you guys cant clearly see the difference between the way you behave and the way the sucessful and happy guys behave!
Sincerely, Adam Heyman
10-17-05, 02:12 PM
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PS Chris, you are such a good detective...you should change professions! Did you know that "dective chris" has become your nickname including from the guys who are supposedly on your side. You were so good at exposing everything in our defence and then changed your tune when you couldn't get enough ***** to stand up to you loyal group. I just have to laugh when I think about how you slammed Grahm and Max about their "egos" and thier lack of "real" knowledge". You are two faced with low or no *****!
10-17-05, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by soloracer951
This is classic Alak. One minute he wants to be "shop dogger" for a competing business to RX7 Specialties and the next he's their best friend. And you wonder why your getting no help from any of us?
Theres a few others on here that are in desprite need of the obvious wisdom of this '4some' and get nothing because they went to RX-7 first without knowing better. At least I get a response from adam and MAYBE, sometimes I get a little help.
10-17-05, 03:53 PM
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Adam,
Show me how I'm abusing the forum. Really, I would like to know. Alak came looking for help from us (by help I mean he wanted someone to come look at his car and fix it for him) and we told him that we wouldn't help him. We work for free and help people that we know appreciate us. Having a guy that one minute is thanking you and then not supporting you doesn't really lend itself to getting help. If someone wants to help him it's their decision not mine. So why haven't you helped him? Or why haven't you helped Archangels solve his problems?
As for the big picture as you call it. The stuff we are asking you to do are for your local customers. The guys who have supported you through the years. The guys that we see on the streets here in Calgary. Do you think any of them care that you are developing a non rotary engine? Why not give back to the guys here to try and develop more interest locally in our cars. After all that's why we get together in the first place. Most of us would like Calgary to be the hot spot for rotaries instead of some 3rd world country.
And yes I do drive an RX7. It's a 1993 R1 - I've even posted pictures here of the car. You might want to check your facts again. The other RX7 I couldn't drive because of the work you performed - or didn't perform depends upon how you look at it. I would have had to undo everything that you did - including getting a replacement wiring harness and ECU because I never got them back from you. Unfortunately it looks like I also will have to redo the engine rebuild.
Speaking of abuse....thanks for the threat of banning me. I don't recall anywhere that I have posted that certain people don't have the right to speak their minds. I even don't mind you having the opportunity to speak yours. I have never reported anyone to the authorities - even when Max was one of the moderators. So just who is the abusive one here? To my knowledge I have never been warned or cautioned about any of my posts regarding you or your shop. If they decide to ban me I would have expected at least one notification.
As for only supporting "RX7 Haters" I have to disagree. ShaunO isn't an RX7 hater. Our friend Mike wasn't an RX7 Hater and neither was Jeff. I have no problems helping those guys - provided there was something I could help them with of course. Once again you have to understand that you really aren't all that important to me. In the case of Alak or Archangels it's the two sided talking that I don't like. If I suddenly came on the forum and had a big love fest for RX7 Specialties I wouldn't blame the guys for not helping me any more. It's almost like I was taking advantage of them and that is the last thing any of us wants.
Once again how are we spoiling peoples chances of access to the hundreds of services? They are free to use you. I'm not so self important that I believe there are tons of people out there who base their buying decisions solely on what I say. How many "re-evaluations" of my car do you need to get it right? I think 3 was fair - don't you?
Show me how I'm abusing the forum. Really, I would like to know. Alak came looking for help from us (by help I mean he wanted someone to come look at his car and fix it for him) and we told him that we wouldn't help him. We work for free and help people that we know appreciate us. Having a guy that one minute is thanking you and then not supporting you doesn't really lend itself to getting help. If someone wants to help him it's their decision not mine. So why haven't you helped him? Or why haven't you helped Archangels solve his problems?
As for the big picture as you call it. The stuff we are asking you to do are for your local customers. The guys who have supported you through the years. The guys that we see on the streets here in Calgary. Do you think any of them care that you are developing a non rotary engine? Why not give back to the guys here to try and develop more interest locally in our cars. After all that's why we get together in the first place. Most of us would like Calgary to be the hot spot for rotaries instead of some 3rd world country.
And yes I do drive an RX7. It's a 1993 R1 - I've even posted pictures here of the car. You might want to check your facts again. The other RX7 I couldn't drive because of the work you performed - or didn't perform depends upon how you look at it. I would have had to undo everything that you did - including getting a replacement wiring harness and ECU because I never got them back from you. Unfortunately it looks like I also will have to redo the engine rebuild.
Speaking of abuse....thanks for the threat of banning me. I don't recall anywhere that I have posted that certain people don't have the right to speak their minds. I even don't mind you having the opportunity to speak yours. I have never reported anyone to the authorities - even when Max was one of the moderators. So just who is the abusive one here? To my knowledge I have never been warned or cautioned about any of my posts regarding you or your shop. If they decide to ban me I would have expected at least one notification.
As for only supporting "RX7 Haters" I have to disagree. ShaunO isn't an RX7 hater. Our friend Mike wasn't an RX7 Hater and neither was Jeff. I have no problems helping those guys - provided there was something I could help them with of course. Once again you have to understand that you really aren't all that important to me. In the case of Alak or Archangels it's the two sided talking that I don't like. If I suddenly came on the forum and had a big love fest for RX7 Specialties I wouldn't blame the guys for not helping me any more. It's almost like I was taking advantage of them and that is the last thing any of us wants.
Once again how are we spoiling peoples chances of access to the hundreds of services? They are free to use you. I'm not so self important that I believe there are tons of people out there who base their buying decisions solely on what I say. How many "re-evaluations" of my car do you need to get it right? I think 3 was fair - don't you?
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10-17-05, 03:58 PM
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Alak,
Well spoken. However, we aren't the only people who can give advice on this forum. What about the silent others who haven't responded to your requests? None of us are holding them back. Surely there are others here who would be willing to go out and give you a hand. In fact, how much advice has Adam given on the forum? I know Max, Chris and Graham have helped way more people here than he has. So why does it always have to be us or RX7 Specialties? Even Adam has the right to chose whose cars he works on. And he's getting paid for his work.
Well spoken. However, we aren't the only people who can give advice on this forum. What about the silent others who haven't responded to your requests? None of us are holding them back. Surely there are others here who would be willing to go out and give you a hand. In fact, how much advice has Adam given on the forum? I know Max, Chris and Graham have helped way more people here than he has. So why does it always have to be us or RX7 Specialties? Even Adam has the right to chose whose cars he works on. And he's getting paid for his work.
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10-17-05, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RX7specialties
PS Chris, you are such a good detective...you should change professions! Did you know that "dective chris" has become your nickname including from the guys who are supposedly on your side. You were so good at exposing everything in our defence and then changed your tune when you couldn't get enough ***** to stand up to you loyal group. I just have to laugh when I think about how you slammed Grahm and Max about their "egos" and thier lack of "real" knowledge". You are two faced with low or no *****!
This reply to me is as amusing as your usual replies to me are.. you always end up avoiding the facts that I post and always try and bring up things that you feel will try and cause trouble between my friends and I...
Because I do my research, I have a good memory and can call people on crap that they have bs'ed on in the past with concrete proof, you call me "detective chris" .. I'm actually quite flattered.. I wonder where you weretrying to go with that adam..
Tell ya what.. if you would like to continue with this new tactic of calling me 2 faced and without *****, how about you and I discuss it over coffee one day.. we've discussed these things in the past, I've always been cordial to you and always listened to what you have to say... But if we were going to discuss our diffrences, I'd rather it be somewhere that you couldn't just tell me to get out of your shop if things were not going your way... there's a nice friendly tim hortons right next to you...
Ps. I see them as I call them.. If my only motivation in all of this was to try and hurt your business, then I would have never used my "detective" skills to help you along with the situation you had with jreynish a little while back.. If I had a problem with Max or any other of the guys in the group, I would call them on it as well.. don't concider yourself as being so special in that regard adam...
10-17-05, 06:06 PM
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I really wish I knew what the hell was going on here. This crap has been going on for years, and I know who I believe. From what I've been told by a few people, there are basically a group of guys in Calgary who are trying to get their own business up and running ... and think that the only way they can do so is to cut down the one established guy.
Adam is one of those elite few guys in my mind that I'd attach my own name and reputation with, along with others like Petit Racing, Racing Beat, a select few. To see some people bash him repeatedly makes me wonder about their motives, and then to hear what I've heard makes me think I was right to wonder.
If somebody wants to PM me, or write ryan@rxtuner.com about this and what the real deal is, I'll listen. But if it's what I think it is, you guys responsible had better change your tune. This website is not yours to use for personal propoganda and gain.
Adam is one of those elite few guys in my mind that I'd attach my own name and reputation with, along with others like Petit Racing, Racing Beat, a select few. To see some people bash him repeatedly makes me wonder about their motives, and then to hear what I've heard makes me think I was right to wonder.
If somebody wants to PM me, or write ryan@rxtuner.com about this and what the real deal is, I'll listen. But if it's what I think it is, you guys responsible had better change your tune. This website is not yours to use for personal propoganda and gain.
10-17-05, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RX7specialties
You are two faced with low or no *****!
Oh and just so ya know I am well aware of Chris' position regarding my comments during the last discussion. I was told to cool it down by him as well. My relationship with Chris goes beyond the RX-7 world Adam, were friends first. We've discussed that senario more than a couple times, it was funny to watch you think you pulled a fast one on him though, real hilarious.
10-17-05, 06:17 PM
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I really wish I knew what the hell was going on here. This crap has been going on for years, and I know who I believe. From what I've been told by a few people, there are basically a group of guys in Calgary who are trying to get their own business up and running ... and think that the only way they can do so is to cut down the one established guy.
Adam is one of those elite few guys in my mind that I'd attach my own name and reputation with, along with others like Petit Racing, Racing Beat, a select few. To see some people bash him repeatedly makes me wonder about their motives, and then to hear what I've heard makes me think I was right to wonder.
If somebody wants to PM me, or write ryan@rxtuner.com about this and what the real deal is, I'll listen. But if it's what I think it is, you guys responsible had better change your tune. This website is not yours to use for personal propoganda and gain.
Adam is one of those elite few guys in my mind that I'd attach my own name and reputation with, along with others like Petit Racing, Racing Beat, a select few. To see some people bash him repeatedly makes me wonder about their motives, and then to hear what I've heard makes me think I was right to wonder.
If somebody wants to PM me, or write ryan@rxtuner.com about this and what the real deal is, I'll listen. But if it's what I think it is, you guys responsible had better change your tune. This website is not yours to use for personal propoganda and gain.
Here in Calgary there is a few backyard hobbyist's who got sick and ******* tired of ripping apart poorly built motors, and having shitty work done on their own cars. This group of people said nothing, untill it became appearant that many others were having similar issues but were affraid to speak up because they didnt want to "bite the hand that feeds them" as it were since Adam was the only game in town. Nothing was said for a LONG time, finally the group got so sick and tired they spoke up. That's it.......Nothing more, nothing less.
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Ryan,
Just to clear up a few facts regards they issue with rx-7 specialties and adam..
As you can see, our local community is quite divided over the issue of rx-7 specialties.. but i would just like to bring up a few points
We have never started any threads when it came down to adam of rx7 specialties... however, we have never shyed away from threads which users were asking for opinions of their work/products.. The thread in which you have posted in wasactually started by an employee of adams..
adam would like to single out a group of us local users as the instigators of such disagreements, however, i assure you, it is just because we are of the vocal majority who have had first hand experience with troubled work who are not afraid to speak up.. the fear of reprecussions to users who can not do their own work or diagnosis, if they talk about their own troubles in the open and then have no where else to turn is quite enough to keep them quiet on the fourms..
It is difficult to judge the work and know of the troubles that goes on with a shop unless you are quite actively involved in the local community and see the complete picture.. Being in your position and having delt with adam on the phone and having some work done by him only gives you part of the picture..
There is no doubt in my mind that adam has the capabilities of building a trouble free motor, all it takes is a bit of patience and attention to detail.. And since adam has a vested intrest with certain people (such as you and your magazine) I am quite sure that much of that patience and attention of detail will go towards someone like yourself.. however, our problems lie with the work that has been done locally that we have seen first hand.. he has already expressed may times in several posts that the local community is small beans in comparison to his large prodjects, and unfortunately our belief and beef is that it is the local community that suffers from substandard work..
adam has stated that he has no fear in seeing another rotary shop open up in calgary.. however, he always makes it a point in his posts that the only reason we seem to be on his case is because we are starting up our own venture.. The people who he singles out as instigators are all gainfully employed and doing well for themselves in what they do.. there has been some talk within the group in the past about the idea of opening up a shop, however this has just been table talk that I'm sure everyone in the rotary community has had with their friends.. quite simply, working on rotaries is a hobby of ours, but none of us are in the position to want to stop doing what we are already doing for careers and take on the challenge of running a shop.. Any talk about opening a shop on this forum has been perpetuated by adam himself.. simply looking back on any threads that any of us have ever posted would show the fact that we have never mentioned anything about opening any sort of competeing shop, we have always stressed that we are in it for a hobby and to help others out when they are in a bind..
I have been a member of this fourm for quite sometime.. If you take a look at my account, you would see that I was the 710th member of this online community.. while I do not have the post count as some others may have, it is easy to look at my past posts and see that in all the years that i have been online here, I have always contributed my knowledge to other users without asking for anything in return.. nor have I ever dropped any hints about starting up a shop of any kind..
This would go for the others that have been singled out in this group..
I will admit that these threads have always turned out quite toxic in the past, but it hasn't been without egging on from adam himself.. I am not sure of what kind of arrangement you may have with rx-7 specialties, however adam has always used it as his trump card in several threads.. if we were to share our experiences with the general public that put him in a negitive light, then he would simply have to come running to you to have us delt with.. Is this really the way that it works? I'm sure you have seen the thread in the goodguys/bad guys fourm regarding atkins rotary quality. .That thread was just as toxic if not more than what you have seen here.. however, I havn't noticed that you had to step in on that topic.. is that because one is a paid advertiser while the other is not?
you may have also noticed that we have almost always confined our threads to the canadian forum and not spill it out into the rest of the community.. again, that is because it is a situation that basically effects our local community more so than the outside.. If we truley endeavored to do nothign but try and hurt adam's business, I'm sure we would have ventured into the other forums already...
If the situation is that adam and rx-7 specialties is a "protected" company on this fourm, then please let us know and I'm sure we will adjust the way we handle these situations.. I do appreciate however that you have taken the time to post in the topic without just arbitrarely handing out bans without explanation.. To be willing to hear both sides of the situation is very much appreciated...
Chris..
Ps. I'm going to be posting a copy of this pm in the thread as I feel it is fair for the others who are involved in this topic to know what I have said to you (I do not speak for our whole group, so I'd like for them to know exactly what I have told you)
Just to clear up a few facts regards they issue with rx-7 specialties and adam..
As you can see, our local community is quite divided over the issue of rx-7 specialties.. but i would just like to bring up a few points
We have never started any threads when it came down to adam of rx7 specialties... however, we have never shyed away from threads which users were asking for opinions of their work/products.. The thread in which you have posted in wasactually started by an employee of adams..
adam would like to single out a group of us local users as the instigators of such disagreements, however, i assure you, it is just because we are of the vocal majority who have had first hand experience with troubled work who are not afraid to speak up.. the fear of reprecussions to users who can not do their own work or diagnosis, if they talk about their own troubles in the open and then have no where else to turn is quite enough to keep them quiet on the fourms..
It is difficult to judge the work and know of the troubles that goes on with a shop unless you are quite actively involved in the local community and see the complete picture.. Being in your position and having delt with adam on the phone and having some work done by him only gives you part of the picture..
There is no doubt in my mind that adam has the capabilities of building a trouble free motor, all it takes is a bit of patience and attention to detail.. And since adam has a vested intrest with certain people (such as you and your magazine) I am quite sure that much of that patience and attention of detail will go towards someone like yourself.. however, our problems lie with the work that has been done locally that we have seen first hand.. he has already expressed may times in several posts that the local community is small beans in comparison to his large prodjects, and unfortunately our belief and beef is that it is the local community that suffers from substandard work..
adam has stated that he has no fear in seeing another rotary shop open up in calgary.. however, he always makes it a point in his posts that the only reason we seem to be on his case is because we are starting up our own venture.. The people who he singles out as instigators are all gainfully employed and doing well for themselves in what they do.. there has been some talk within the group in the past about the idea of opening up a shop, however this has just been table talk that I'm sure everyone in the rotary community has had with their friends.. quite simply, working on rotaries is a hobby of ours, but none of us are in the position to want to stop doing what we are already doing for careers and take on the challenge of running a shop.. Any talk about opening a shop on this forum has been perpetuated by adam himself.. simply looking back on any threads that any of us have ever posted would show the fact that we have never mentioned anything about opening any sort of competeing shop, we have always stressed that we are in it for a hobby and to help others out when they are in a bind..
I have been a member of this fourm for quite sometime.. If you take a look at my account, you would see that I was the 710th member of this online community.. while I do not have the post count as some others may have, it is easy to look at my past posts and see that in all the years that i have been online here, I have always contributed my knowledge to other users without asking for anything in return.. nor have I ever dropped any hints about starting up a shop of any kind..
This would go for the others that have been singled out in this group..
I will admit that these threads have always turned out quite toxic in the past, but it hasn't been without egging on from adam himself.. I am not sure of what kind of arrangement you may have with rx-7 specialties, however adam has always used it as his trump card in several threads.. if we were to share our experiences with the general public that put him in a negitive light, then he would simply have to come running to you to have us delt with.. Is this really the way that it works? I'm sure you have seen the thread in the goodguys/bad guys fourm regarding atkins rotary quality. .That thread was just as toxic if not more than what you have seen here.. however, I havn't noticed that you had to step in on that topic.. is that because one is a paid advertiser while the other is not?
you may have also noticed that we have almost always confined our threads to the canadian forum and not spill it out into the rest of the community.. again, that is because it is a situation that basically effects our local community more so than the outside.. If we truley endeavored to do nothign but try and hurt adam's business, I'm sure we would have ventured into the other forums already...
If the situation is that adam and rx-7 specialties is a "protected" company on this fourm, then please let us know and I'm sure we will adjust the way we handle these situations.. I do appreciate however that you have taken the time to post in the topic without just arbitrarely handing out bans without explanation.. To be willing to hear both sides of the situation is very much appreciated...
Chris..
Ps. I'm going to be posting a copy of this pm in the thread as I feel it is fair for the others who are involved in this topic to know what I have said to you (I do not speak for our whole group, so I'd like for them to know exactly what I have told you)
10-17-05, 07:32 PM
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Here is a copy of my PM. I felt I should share as well since Chris and the others posted publically:
Ryan,
There is no business up and running, never has been and to my knowledge never will be. That has been a rumour that Adam himself started years ago. Adam has had the monopoly here in Calgary for years and it's left many of us wanting more so maybe that is why he thinks that we are starting something up. We all have full time jobs and work on our cars as a hobby and that is it. Maybe you can look into setting something up here yourself because we really need it. I really do wish you lived here and recieved some of the service that we have locally. Read the list of things Chris NG posted that has come out of the shop in the last few years. That is only a partial list of what has happened here. One of the worst ones recently is a guy who went into Adams shop and he had a terrible experience. Chris mentioned a few of the problems (like the rotor housing issue and the fact he had to install the motor himself) but he left out the coolant leaks that Adam can't figure out how to fix and the hood that got damaged at his shop. This guy is now trying to sell his car and even though he hasn't said so publically I'm almost certain that part of his reason for selling is because he is dissappointed with the problems he has had. The sad thing is that a new guy will buy the car and take it back to Adam because there is no place else to go. So no matter how poorly guys like this RX7 owner or myself or many others get treated it never really affects the quality of workmanship that comes out of the shop. His story is similar to many others - and almost was mine as well at one time. I would LOVE it if Adam had a top notch product locally but I can't see it happening unless he refocuses his attention on servicing his local people. I've challenged him to do more things locally (sponsor events, make a presence at functions, etc.) but so far he has shown he has no interest in the local guys.
He might treat you and others with a different level of service than he does locally - I don't know. I don't comment on his performance on anything else than the local section. Guys may rave about him in the US section of the forum and do you see me posting there? Not at all. I'm a very dissatisfied local customer that has seen enough poor workmanship - including on my own car - to be qualified to comment on it. There really is no excuse for the product quality that has been produced locally.
The biggest problem the guys that I know have is that in the community here you have a very high turn around in car ownership. Many "newbies" come out and ask where to go for work. A good number of them approach us for advice and assitance pulling wrenches because they went to Adam - who they almost all go to at first because he's the only show in town - and have recieved the same poor service we did and then need help fixing what he or one of his staff did wrong. Typical example is with Archangels. His car ran fine before he took it in to RX7 Specialties. Now from what he has posted it doesn't run good and Adam doesn't know what is wrong. So Archangels tries to solicit help from others and eventually convinces Max to take a look. Believe it or not Max is chomping at the bit to figure out what is wrong because he enjoys the challenge - especially if it's something that another expert couldn't figure out. Next thing you know a thread (the one that was closed) is started with Archangels bad mouthing Adam's work. We kind of laugh about it because we know what problems he has had and understand his frustration. We commented but didn't really get involved until he started suddenly changing his attitude.
Our problem with Adam has always been the way he deals with local people and the quality of service he has given them. He may not do sloppy work for you because you are a person in the RX7 community that has some pull and he cares about what you think. But for the ordinary local Joe it's been very frustrating. But if Archangels is suddenly happy with the service or has found new confidence in Adam's shop or abilities what is wrong with letting Adam finish fixing the problem? Nothing and that is what I meant when I said he should let Adam finish the job. Same goes for Alak. One minute he's telling everyone how horrible things are at RX7 Specialties and that he needs help and the next minute he's done a complete reversal. If things aren't as bad as he first stated he should keep seeing Adam and let him finish the job. It's only fair. I don't think any of us want to do something for free that Adam has been doing well and making a living from. We only help the guys that feel that they have no where else to go because if we don't chances are they will sell their car and give up on the RX7 completely. It's as simple as that.
Now look at the thread you just posted in. We didn't start it. We have never started a thread to try and draw anyone into what we all know will be a mud slinging contest. If Syrtis, an employee of RX7 Specialties, hadn't started the thread there would be no reason for you to step in because we just don't need the aggrivation. Instead he goads us into responding knowing full well what the response would be.
I appreciate the fact you give us a place to communicate and in the early days I have even donated money to keep the forum running. However, I don't believe it was created as a forum for vendors only where dissenting views are to be silenced. I don't tell people to stop posting good stuff or good experiences about any shop so why should I be asked not to post the bad experiences? I'll agree to cool it if that is what you wish but I ask that there be some fairness to all parties involved.
Erik
Ryan,
There is no business up and running, never has been and to my knowledge never will be. That has been a rumour that Adam himself started years ago. Adam has had the monopoly here in Calgary for years and it's left many of us wanting more so maybe that is why he thinks that we are starting something up. We all have full time jobs and work on our cars as a hobby and that is it. Maybe you can look into setting something up here yourself because we really need it. I really do wish you lived here and recieved some of the service that we have locally. Read the list of things Chris NG posted that has come out of the shop in the last few years. That is only a partial list of what has happened here. One of the worst ones recently is a guy who went into Adams shop and he had a terrible experience. Chris mentioned a few of the problems (like the rotor housing issue and the fact he had to install the motor himself) but he left out the coolant leaks that Adam can't figure out how to fix and the hood that got damaged at his shop. This guy is now trying to sell his car and even though he hasn't said so publically I'm almost certain that part of his reason for selling is because he is dissappointed with the problems he has had. The sad thing is that a new guy will buy the car and take it back to Adam because there is no place else to go. So no matter how poorly guys like this RX7 owner or myself or many others get treated it never really affects the quality of workmanship that comes out of the shop. His story is similar to many others - and almost was mine as well at one time. I would LOVE it if Adam had a top notch product locally but I can't see it happening unless he refocuses his attention on servicing his local people. I've challenged him to do more things locally (sponsor events, make a presence at functions, etc.) but so far he has shown he has no interest in the local guys.
He might treat you and others with a different level of service than he does locally - I don't know. I don't comment on his performance on anything else than the local section. Guys may rave about him in the US section of the forum and do you see me posting there? Not at all. I'm a very dissatisfied local customer that has seen enough poor workmanship - including on my own car - to be qualified to comment on it. There really is no excuse for the product quality that has been produced locally.
The biggest problem the guys that I know have is that in the community here you have a very high turn around in car ownership. Many "newbies" come out and ask where to go for work. A good number of them approach us for advice and assitance pulling wrenches because they went to Adam - who they almost all go to at first because he's the only show in town - and have recieved the same poor service we did and then need help fixing what he or one of his staff did wrong. Typical example is with Archangels. His car ran fine before he took it in to RX7 Specialties. Now from what he has posted it doesn't run good and Adam doesn't know what is wrong. So Archangels tries to solicit help from others and eventually convinces Max to take a look. Believe it or not Max is chomping at the bit to figure out what is wrong because he enjoys the challenge - especially if it's something that another expert couldn't figure out. Next thing you know a thread (the one that was closed) is started with Archangels bad mouthing Adam's work. We kind of laugh about it because we know what problems he has had and understand his frustration. We commented but didn't really get involved until he started suddenly changing his attitude.
Our problem with Adam has always been the way he deals with local people and the quality of service he has given them. He may not do sloppy work for you because you are a person in the RX7 community that has some pull and he cares about what you think. But for the ordinary local Joe it's been very frustrating. But if Archangels is suddenly happy with the service or has found new confidence in Adam's shop or abilities what is wrong with letting Adam finish fixing the problem? Nothing and that is what I meant when I said he should let Adam finish the job. Same goes for Alak. One minute he's telling everyone how horrible things are at RX7 Specialties and that he needs help and the next minute he's done a complete reversal. If things aren't as bad as he first stated he should keep seeing Adam and let him finish the job. It's only fair. I don't think any of us want to do something for free that Adam has been doing well and making a living from. We only help the guys that feel that they have no where else to go because if we don't chances are they will sell their car and give up on the RX7 completely. It's as simple as that.
Now look at the thread you just posted in. We didn't start it. We have never started a thread to try and draw anyone into what we all know will be a mud slinging contest. If Syrtis, an employee of RX7 Specialties, hadn't started the thread there would be no reason for you to step in because we just don't need the aggrivation. Instead he goads us into responding knowing full well what the response would be.
I appreciate the fact you give us a place to communicate and in the early days I have even donated money to keep the forum running. However, I don't believe it was created as a forum for vendors only where dissenting views are to be silenced. I don't tell people to stop posting good stuff or good experiences about any shop so why should I be asked not to post the bad experiences? I'll agree to cool it if that is what you wish but I ask that there be some fairness to all parties involved.
Erik
10-17-05, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by soloracer951
Alak,
Well spoken. However, we aren't the only people who can give advice on this forum. What about the silent others who haven't responded to your requests? None of us are holding them back. Surely there are others here who would be willing to go out and give you a hand. In fact, how much advice has Adam given on the forum? I know Max, Chris and Graham have helped way more people here than he has. So why does it always have to be us or RX7 Specialties? Even Adam has the right to chose whose cars he works on. And he's getting paid for his work.
Well spoken. However, we aren't the only people who can give advice on this forum. What about the silent others who haven't responded to your requests? None of us are holding them back. Surely there are others here who would be willing to go out and give you a hand. In fact, how much advice has Adam given on the forum? I know Max, Chris and Graham have helped way more people here than he has. So why does it always have to be us or RX7 Specialties? Even Adam has the right to chose whose cars he works on. And he's getting paid for his work.
I will state something that crossed my mind. This is my personal opinion of this whole situation. You say adam is just in it for the money and you do it for free. Well when you dont help someone because they tried an alternative that you didnt agree with, Guess what? It forces them to spend even more money to recouperate their losses to start over and rectify the problem somewhere else. I have nothing against you guys at all, but thats just it, I have nothing to have against you guys. I've seen your cars and thats about it. You guys withhold information to teach us for going somewhere you dont agree with, forcing us to just keep going there and spending money. We're supposed to be a community here, yet we're at each others throats.
Now how many guys here want to tune mine or Archangels' car? Is there an echo in here? Perhaps we should go to adam again because hes the ONLY person that obviously wants to help. I get results when I goto adam. They may not be the best, but I've yet to see better.
I wont lie, I've seen crap leave that shop. But I've seen crap enter that shop as well. The guy aint god, but considering hes the only elite thats worked on my car, hes the best I've seen.
10-17-05, 09:28 PM
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yes i went to the shop and had both good and bad experiences with them, i believe i stated them in the previous thread....
where you guys make as if i changed my tune was infact me giving the full story, from day one and a few of the good experiences i've had....
my car is having problems and i turned to you guys in desperation, max was kind enough to send me a PM and say that he will infact help me out, inwhich i greatly appreciate, eventhough i havent met him in person he's willing to lend his assistance, i really couldnt show how greatful i am....
i bought this car knowing that it would have problems and kinks that would have to be worked out, but seeing the rotary community in such a disarray is saddening....
i just want my car up and running properly so i can enjoy my investment, i almost feel as if i've been black listed because i took my car to RX7specialties, like a little dog who's being pointed the finger and told "bad"....
where you guys make as if i changed my tune was infact me giving the full story, from day one and a few of the good experiences i've had....
my car is having problems and i turned to you guys in desperation, max was kind enough to send me a PM and say that he will infact help me out, inwhich i greatly appreciate, eventhough i havent met him in person he's willing to lend his assistance, i really couldnt show how greatful i am....
i bought this car knowing that it would have problems and kinks that would have to be worked out, but seeing the rotary community in such a disarray is saddening....
i just want my car up and running properly so i can enjoy my investment, i almost feel as if i've been black listed because i took my car to RX7specialties, like a little dog who's being pointed the finger and told "bad"....
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So, what is the ultimate goal here? I mean, do you guys have a final destination in mind, or do you just get off on poking Adam with a stick? You guys have harped on a perceived problem for at least a couple of years that I'm aware of, and I've never seen any sort of constructive result. Furthermore, it sounds like you've collectively decided do decline assistance to anyone who frequents Adam's shop. That's your perogative of course, but it makes your posts seem all the more mean-spirited, misguided, and without merit.
Chris, why you invest so much time in forensically going through posts other people have made over the years is beyond me. The picture it paints is that of a very small man who's looking to compensate for some inadequacy by trashing others. Do you sit in the dark at night and pour over old posts in order to find fault with others? For God's sake, Chris, go out and get yourself a BJ. Maybe that'll do something to correct your sh!tty outlook.
Graham... Same thing. Lack of sex can make you crazy.
Erik... Ditto. I don't know why you guys have a hard on for Adam's ***, but it's not a healthy obsession.
Max... You've been silent. I can only assume that you're not suffering from sperm retention headaches when you go to bed at night.
Seriously though, I've had success in my career by following a simple philosophy: Identify the problem, make it your own, develop a solution. I am sick to death of people belly-aching week after week about a problem but never taking the extra effort to offer a solution. If this forum were a company, you'd be basically unemployable. Sure, you can identify the hell out of a problem, but where's the follow-through?
Just so we're clear, by no means am I conceding that Adam and/or RX-7 Specialties represents a problem. I will allow that this particular niche could benefit from some competition. As it stands, I've always believed that Adam has a far greater clientele than staff to support it. I highly doubt he has anything to fear from competition, as the demand for RX-7 service *far* outweighs the supply.
I know all of you fairly well, and each of you has helped me out in some fashion over the years, so I know you have it in you. I'm no longer interested in reading your negative posts. Please don't waste my time unless you have something of value to share with the community.
Chris, why you invest so much time in forensically going through posts other people have made over the years is beyond me. The picture it paints is that of a very small man who's looking to compensate for some inadequacy by trashing others. Do you sit in the dark at night and pour over old posts in order to find fault with others? For God's sake, Chris, go out and get yourself a BJ. Maybe that'll do something to correct your sh!tty outlook.
Graham... Same thing. Lack of sex can make you crazy.
Erik... Ditto. I don't know why you guys have a hard on for Adam's ***, but it's not a healthy obsession.
Max... You've been silent. I can only assume that you're not suffering from sperm retention headaches when you go to bed at night.
Seriously though, I've had success in my career by following a simple philosophy: Identify the problem, make it your own, develop a solution. I am sick to death of people belly-aching week after week about a problem but never taking the extra effort to offer a solution. If this forum were a company, you'd be basically unemployable. Sure, you can identify the hell out of a problem, but where's the follow-through?
Just so we're clear, by no means am I conceding that Adam and/or RX-7 Specialties represents a problem. I will allow that this particular niche could benefit from some competition. As it stands, I've always believed that Adam has a far greater clientele than staff to support it. I highly doubt he has anything to fear from competition, as the demand for RX-7 service *far* outweighs the supply.
I know all of you fairly well, and each of you has helped me out in some fashion over the years, so I know you have it in you. I'm no longer interested in reading your negative posts. Please don't waste my time unless you have something of value to share with the community.
10-17-05, 10:19 PM
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I would like to respond but at the moment I see that I have to decline for any response would result in further inciting and probably result in me being banned.
Nice post ShaunO. Good to see you taking advantage of the fact that none of us can respond truthfully. You don't speak up and say your mind unless we are unable to respond. I promise not to waste any more of my time or yours.
Nice post ShaunO. Good to see you taking advantage of the fact that none of us can respond truthfully. You don't speak up and say your mind unless we are unable to respond. I promise not to waste any more of my time or yours.
10-17-05, 10:36 PM
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Four and some years ago, there was a time I took my car to RX-7 Specialities for some work. Friendly guy at the helm, lots of parts and seemed to know RX-7s very well. But that was all it was, just a shop to get work done. After some friends had some experiences with the shop (more than enough detail in this and other threads), well I wasn't going to take it there anymore. Simple as that.
The only time that he was invovled in the "community" was in car shows to promote RX-7 Specialities with the 20B RX-7, that was it........and oh, the side venture of Exotic Car Experience where for $50 you could get a lap in the 600WHP 20B RX-7. Almost made the call to get a lap just to see it in action.
Reading from some of the post, you guys make it seem like there is 2 gangs of RX-7 owners or something. Oh there is a "split in the community" Bleh!
All the meets have been civilized and Max, Chris, Graham and Erik are friendly and very approachable. You have an issue, they are more than willing to give you advice and offer suggestions. They have share a ton of experience between them and are not mean spirited that like some of you suggest, and *gasp* even if you have taken your car to RX-7 Specialities. I ask anyone that attended the RX-7 meets to tell me otherwise.
Of course they are not going to do a engine rebuild for you, or tune your car for you, answer every PM, go to your house to look at a problem...etc, but they will certainly offer suggestions at the meets and maybe if they are bored a helping hand, but I doubt they will even bother if you are abrasive, flip-flop, don't show a slight bit of interest in your car and just want to use them as a freebie mechanic.
Of course you do have to listen a bit and not just talk constantly about how great your are and how much knowledge you have, that turns off most people instantly when it's grossly incorrect and all about you you you. And if you got an abrasive personality, chances are you will not be getting too much help, in an RX-7 enviroment and pretty much any enviroment really.
That's my 2cents for what it's worth.
And oh, most of this is stemed from Syrtis's post which was pretty much trolling. What did you think was going to happen when you place RX-7 Specialities on a pedestal like that? I might has well start a post stating "Rotaries suck, thats why a V8 is going in my RX-7" and see how that goes.
The only time that he was invovled in the "community" was in car shows to promote RX-7 Specialities with the 20B RX-7, that was it........and oh, the side venture of Exotic Car Experience where for $50 you could get a lap in the 600WHP 20B RX-7. Almost made the call to get a lap just to see it in action.
Reading from some of the post, you guys make it seem like there is 2 gangs of RX-7 owners or something. Oh there is a "split in the community" Bleh!
All the meets have been civilized and Max, Chris, Graham and Erik are friendly and very approachable. You have an issue, they are more than willing to give you advice and offer suggestions. They have share a ton of experience between them and are not mean spirited that like some of you suggest, and *gasp* even if you have taken your car to RX-7 Specialities. I ask anyone that attended the RX-7 meets to tell me otherwise.
Of course they are not going to do a engine rebuild for you, or tune your car for you, answer every PM, go to your house to look at a problem...etc, but they will certainly offer suggestions at the meets and maybe if they are bored a helping hand, but I doubt they will even bother if you are abrasive, flip-flop, don't show a slight bit of interest in your car and just want to use them as a freebie mechanic.
Of course you do have to listen a bit and not just talk constantly about how great your are and how much knowledge you have, that turns off most people instantly when it's grossly incorrect and all about you you you. And if you got an abrasive personality, chances are you will not be getting too much help, in an RX-7 enviroment and pretty much any enviroment really.
That's my 2cents for what it's worth.
And oh, most of this is stemed from Syrtis's post which was pretty much trolling. What did you think was going to happen when you place RX-7 Specialities on a pedestal like that? I might has well start a post stating "Rotaries suck, thats why a V8 is going in my RX-7" and see how that goes.
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10-17-05, 10:36 PM
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I'm not sure I understand, Erik. I can only assume you've been 'sanctioned' by a moderator. Trust me, I wanted to hear responses from all of you.
By the way, I'm curious about the "Calgary Mechanics" thread that I can no longer access. What was the rationale for taking it off-line?
By the way, I'm curious about the "Calgary Mechanics" thread that I can no longer access. What was the rationale for taking it off-line?
10-17-05, 10:39 PM
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Shaun.. do I sit there and search other peoples posts to look for faults.. that answer is no.. I actually read peoples posts and remember what they have said (actually that's not true.. the one time I did search was actually the time when I actually defended adam and rx-7 specialties.. the jreynish episode).. The reason I refer peopel to other peopels posts is to provide proof of what has been said.. so that there is no mistaking what's going on..
Nobody is making you read these posts.. whenevr a topic like this comes up you know where they will lead.. if you decide to read the posts, then you are wasteing your own time..
So you have finally decided to step up and spill your guts on here about how you feel about us.. I guess you are entitled.. your opinions and insults are not going to change my outlook on this topic or myself..
It seems like we struck a nerve when we said we are going to be selective about who we decide to help... But why does that really matter to you people? why the great importance? we are a group of friends who own rx-7s.. out of hundreds of other rx7 owners in this city and thousands more on this fourm.. our importance and ability has been downplayed enough times on the fourm by adam and other users.. so why the hell does it matter if we decide not to offer our assistance? there seems to be quite a large ammount of places and people that one can seek help from.. needless to say, jsut because we own the same kind of car does not automatically mean we have to be best friends...
Shaun.. perhaps a good ol bj would lighten me up over everything.. or perhaps the hostility you have decide to display is due to the frustration that your car has never run right in the last 4 years.. So taking your philosophy into play, Have you identified the problem with why your car still doesnt' run right even after the ammount of money you've dumped into it? Now have you made that issue your own? and what solution have you developed, aside from thinking about selling the car, or ignoring it completely?
Nobody is making you read these posts.. whenevr a topic like this comes up you know where they will lead.. if you decide to read the posts, then you are wasteing your own time..
So you have finally decided to step up and spill your guts on here about how you feel about us.. I guess you are entitled.. your opinions and insults are not going to change my outlook on this topic or myself..
It seems like we struck a nerve when we said we are going to be selective about who we decide to help... But why does that really matter to you people? why the great importance? we are a group of friends who own rx-7s.. out of hundreds of other rx7 owners in this city and thousands more on this fourm.. our importance and ability has been downplayed enough times on the fourm by adam and other users.. so why the hell does it matter if we decide not to offer our assistance? there seems to be quite a large ammount of places and people that one can seek help from.. needless to say, jsut because we own the same kind of car does not automatically mean we have to be best friends...
Shaun.. perhaps a good ol bj would lighten me up over everything.. or perhaps the hostility you have decide to display is due to the frustration that your car has never run right in the last 4 years.. So taking your philosophy into play, Have you identified the problem with why your car still doesnt' run right even after the ammount of money you've dumped into it? Now have you made that issue your own? and what solution have you developed, aside from thinking about selling the car, or ignoring it completely?