I went to the track today hopin for some better track conditions, NO LUCK!
they did no track prep what so ever, i was blowin my tires off the line, with alittle better traction they were easy 11 second runs
the 3 run in the video i did manage to get my best 60ft 1.74 spinnin the hell outta the tires first and 2nd gear lol

I got 3 12.1 runs 3 12.2's and a few others

my best time was 12.11@115mph 1.85 60ft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z59ntMloLNY

 

Nice vids man good times

 

Nice times, Definilty pure wheel sping through first and second. You must be tasting those 11's

 

You think you've got wheel spin? I did 12.3 at 120 with over 2 seconds in the 60'. Good thing it's a road circuit car or I'd be a little embarassed. Watch that wheel hop.

 

Sparta doesn't really prep the track on Friday and Saturday nights because it's not worth it to them. With just a bunch of people paying $15 to race (or is it $20 now?) it would cost too much. Especially since people's cars tend to drip fluids all over their nicely prepped track. If you ask, they will glue the track for you. But last time I asked, it cost around $100.

That said, I have seen teams make 5 and 6 second runs on Friday nights, so if you can position your car after one of those guys, you probably will get better traction.

I have timeslips showing 13.00 at like 120 MPH, so don't talk to me about traction issues.

 

I have only been to the 1/4 mile track twice in a 5.0L mustang. It was many years ago and Cayuga too. I tried pulling off the line around 1,000 RPM and still spun all over the place. My car was not fast, I only managed to get 14.3 seconds. The track was just that slippery.

I can only imagine how much a faster vehicle can spin on an unprepared track.

 

i just want a 11.99 i just need enough traction to drop the 1/10th , i've been concentrating on gettin my to just hook up well , I've been pretty much building it up for Time attack/autocross

 

sparta is worthless.

They don't glue the track because they're cheap *****, not because they can't afford it.

55 gallons of VHT costs $300, and it doesn't even take 1/2 gal to prep the first 60' of both lanes. (I am speaking from experience here)

I've gone 12.7@132 at sparta - getting wheelspin in 4th which my car wouldn't even do on the street.

All my friends were up that day - black solstice, the grand prix's, etc.. I shoulda tagged along, I was even in london! I would have loved to have seen an RX-7 run a bit. Maybe next year.

if you ever want to go to a REAL track either hit up grand bend or come down my way and go to milan.

At milan my GTR hooked well enough to rip the transmission mount out of the floor of the car. I let off but it was a 1.4 second 60' in the making.

don't sweat 11's, you'll make it there. with that MPH and the power your car is making you've easily got a 11 second car.

 

Please let me know where you can get 55 gallons of VHT for $300? We have a track here in Terrace Bay we set up once a year, and I beleive we pay a hell of a lot more than that. If we could get it for cheaper, it would help us out a lot!

 

I called a customer with a Keystone account and they said that a 55 gallon drum of VHT TrackBite is "around $800".

The cost of the stuff isn't the big deal. It's the time and effort required when every kid with an 18 second Honda asks for the track to be prepped before their run. Sparta would waste so much time and make such little money on Friday nights if they had to prep the track that very soon we would only get two or three runs a night, and the cost would double. Sparta is a traditional local track, not a high profile place like Grand Bend.

The challenge in drag racing isn't just to floor it off the line, but to know how to handle the car in varying conditions to get the best times. Isn't that where the fun is?

 

We bought some last summer for $300 stateside. $800 in canada seems like a normal keystone markup. I think we bought direct from VHT.


You don't have to prep the track after every car. And the amount of prep needed is certainly different for a crowd of 18 second FWD cars than for some 10-11-12 second cars.

But the kid in the 18 second honda paid just as much to be there as the guy in the 9 second mustang and deserves the same kind of treatment. And that's something that St. Thomas just isn't willing to provide, and the main thing I dislike about the place. I've gone there in a 11 second camaro and gotten VASTLY different treatment then when I showed up in my 11 second RX-7 or 11 second GTR.


I pay the same at Milan ($20) and EVERYONE gets a prepped track.

Yeah it's buisier. Probably because people want to go there because the place doesn't suck. Being "not busy" isn't usually good for business.

 

It's funny you should mention the treatment, because I had the same situation two years ago with the RX-7. I was the only car ever inspected for "tech" that night, and I was the only driver forced to wear a helmet (apparently if you are running under 14 you need a helmet...news to me).

It still seems like a lot of bother for Sparta to prep the track every Friday when often there aren't a load of really fast cars there. Most of the Friday night crowd is above 14, with only a few in the 13s, one or two in the 12s, and rarely someone faster then 11. I doubt they are also going to make trips to VHT headquarters to pick up the goo at a heavy discount.

If you ask, they will prep. If you don't, then you get the same treatment as everyone which is no prep.

 

HAHAHA i never really thought of just goin up and askin them to prep it, lol i would just curse them from the sidelines
Im gonna go back sunday, i'll ask then

 

Im pickin up a 3" muffler tomorrow before work, I'll weld that bad boy on and its smooth sailing into the 11's even if im blowin my tires off the line!!!
old school JDM style YO!

The reason im so set on gettin 11.99 is to Rub it in some V8 guys faces on a local forums, who were rassing me saying my car couldnt make it into the 11's and how they need 500+hp in there cars to get there with actual slicks and all the other usual V8 guy stuff
so i'd like to introduce them to The Displacement Replacement!

Aaron your gear Ratio's and Lack of LSD is all thats holding you back

 

I've seen the posts in local forums. Those V8 guys seem to understand only half the equation. They get the "power" part, but they don't understand the "to weight" half. A 400HP RX-7 is an 11 second car when there is traction.

I'm not worried about the gear ratios, but I have an LSD sitting in my shop right now waiting for the winter. I turned the boost up to 16 PSI and it now the car will roast the tires from a roll in 4th gear...

 

What did you end up putting in for a transmission Aaron ?

 

There is an NA transmission in the car right now. I have a TII transmission out being rebuilt which will be installed sometime this winter.

 

if you need parts for the TII trans I have a new bearing kit and 2 used disassembled TII transmissions in my shed taking up room.

I was going to build a trans to put in my "new" project (that I'll post about here soon) - but I think a used one will be fine for now.

the "to weight" part of the equation is always key - that and traction.

 

I welded a 3" muffler on today....OH MAN! its a pretty big differance lol ive only got a taste so far but the g/f dyno indicated a significant increase in power
ill post pics of my old muffler its pretty funny

 

we need pictures of new setup hehe.

 

Aaron you should atleast try a set of aluminum engine and tranny mounts for a few weeks i love how my car shifts and feels with them, ive been using them all this season there's barely any vibration after a day or 2 you dont even notice, but i like it, you get a better feel for the motor, mine cost $30 for enough fo 3 sets

 

Hehe, girlfriend dyno. But I've found in the past that readings from those can be unstable, not always easy to interpret and sometimes contradictory from previous results.

I'll be running a set of poly engine mounts but likely stick with the competition rubber transmission mounts I already have. I'm not keen on running solid mounts on a bridgeported engine as the whole car will be rocking. I've run them in the past on stock/street port engines and wouldn't go any other way.

Terrh, I think I'm set for parts. The transmission shop indicated that it's just going to need seals and syncros.