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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:11 AM
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Havoc's - Aussie built wide body, 13B-RE powered by gtX3582

G’day all.

I felt like making a bit of build thread here (as each time I link people to ausrotary they don’t have access.)

The full thread is here AusRotary.com • Login

This is just a bit of background to my car. I’m a big fan of pictures to tell the story
But I’ve had the car since about 1999 or so. It was a 1986 FC3S Series 4 NA
I know most ppl on here don't like wings, wide bodies, graphics etc etc. So really if you have nothing constructive to say... please don’t say it.

So Stage 1:
Naturally aspirated, nothing exciting. Engine ended up corroding itself out about 3 years after I bought it. Was really just a good excuse to change the engine to turbo.

So Stage 2:
Stock 13B (import engine) (really bad compression 65 front and 70 rear)
Turbo was a hi flow
FMIC
Microtech mt8
4x720 secondaries, 2x550 primaries (040 fuel pump)
3" exhaust all the way through - splits to 2x2.5 at the rear

I think I was pushing about 260 rwhp at the time at 14 psi, which was a huge step above the NA block. Going down to the drags ran a 13.4 and that was with intercooler pipes blowing off .
Also had a habit of doing diff mounts I think I killed about 3 in 6 months.

Stage 3:
Basically just worked on the interior
Different seats (+ re-trimmed the rear one)
All new carpets
Sunroof all fixed
Custom centre console
Sound System:
2x6.5 inch co-axial’s in each door
2x12's (crossfire BMF)
1x1000 D (1000 wrms for the subs)
1X602 (2x300 wrms each door)
Extra 1 Farrah Cap.. Was good for 143DB at 62hz
Stage 4:
I was living in London at the time (was there for about 2 years traveling and working) and still always had the bug. So every now and again I would buy **** for the FC on ebay, get it sent to my brother and he would put it in storage for me.

So at the time I bought a T04e with a 60-1 compressor,1.15 rear housing, Manifold WG etc and sent it to my bother to get it all installed.

Car then got dyno’ed for 340 rwhp at 14 psi (no porting) compression was **** and it lasted a hell of a thrashing ! Ended up killing 3 NA gear boxes before changing to a turbo box. Which has been fine ever since.

From that point I bought some rims and realised they wouldn’t fit without a wide body, so the saga of building a wide body FC started. I then got sponsored so the airbrushing then got introduced to advertise the panel beater.











Turbo b4 it was all rebuild
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:13 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:14 AM
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So put the new rears on to make sure they fit. you will notice the orginal 215's in the back ground







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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:16 AM
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Stage 5:
Once getting the car back from panel and paint (3 years later…. ) id changed plans and decided to make the engine back match the rest of the panel work. So I:
• Pulled and sold the old engine
• Hid all the wiring (full rewire)
• Bought a 13B-RE
• Upgraded Fuel system
• Haltech E8
• M&W CDI ignition system
• Side mounts Alt
• Ceramic coat all the intake pipework.
• (reused the old turbo)
• Painted engine bay
• Installed it all back in.
• Davis Craig electric water pump and controller.
• All Defi sensors and gauges.

I then ran about like this for basically 2 years before the engine let go one day. I was running 350 rwhp at 12psi on a (20 yr old turbo)












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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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I see someone obsess with blue/purple lol
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:29 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:30 AM
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Stage 6:
So before the engine let go I decided to change the turbo.So I bought a gtX3582 from turboblown and waited to install it. The engine then let go So I rebuild the Cosmo donk. At the same time decided on.[LIST][*]Extreme rotary extended ports[*]Extreme rotary exhaust porting
  • Goopy stud kit
  • Goopy seals
  • RA solid side seals
Then put it all back together.

After that I put on the turbo and had it send off to get a 4" dump put on and the water lines fittings welded on (I cant weld for ****)
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:34 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:35 AM
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Stage 7: yet to come
New seats.... Idea's ?
New rims. I really want something with deep dish and concave.

So yeh thats about it. Funny being able to post 8yrs of playing in 3 minutes

Cheers Anth

some vids on you tube under Mantrx7
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:10 AM
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Hurry up and dyno! Everyone is dying to see what 20+psi does on the P trim GTX35R...
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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hahaha will do Elliot, just hard to get the km's up on it when I can only really use it on weekend, but got some cruises lined up which should speed things up a bit !
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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cruise it down to my end of town and i will hook up the PC and tweak that idle a little more ..
idle vacuums indicate its still on the rich side

methinks you may also just have to check if you need a second restricter for the turbo oil feed as your coping nearly 100 psi cold oil pressure
i have found that even stock old school bearing turbos can benefit from turning down the oil pressure by welding up the banjo bolt holes and drilling them to 2mm
i expect even a GT turbo ( which has an internal restricter AFAIK ) will like the extra knock down in oil pressure

tell tale will be that smoking while you have 90 + psi.. but none when the oil is warm and dropped to 40 psi


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if you look in the haltech forum you will find i have listed the oz e8 loom OMP colours and you should also try re-spading that connector accordingly and plugging it back in and seeing if the unit hunts
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Broke_A_Baller
get some bride vios III
Im to big for brides... bloody things are tiny. :P


Originally Posted by bumpstart
down the oil pressure by welding up the banjo bolt holes and drilling them to 2mm
Um its all good mate, I found that speedflow do a BBturbo restrictor that fits in the end of the -an4 fitting so its all done

Originally Posted by bumpstart
if you look in the haltech forum you will find i have listed the oz e8 loom OMP colours
yep another thing on the list of things to fix. Happy with the premix option for a while. Im going to pull the dash and play with the wiring a bit, so when I get round to that will fix up the EOMP wires.

PS: the cold start enrichement has been spot on (nice having a engine that finally start with one turn over) and did a bit to the post start enrichement and thats been ok as well.

I just need to find some : time + good road + NO COPS !
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That sucks I'm only 5'8" so they are near perfect for me ahha
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love the car wish my engine bay looked like that
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any idea when it will get on the dyno again?
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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Thanks.

um not sure, our fuel here is **** compared to your US fuel. But since its now a rebuilt engine I would like to turn the boost up a bit to suit.

Im going to be happy with anything 400, and I bet my bottom dollar the curve will be so much fatter then my old turbo I cant wait.
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 05:04 AM
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one from the weekend
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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One from the weekend. (did a good 500km in 2 days)

But Ive now got 900+ km on the car now, so its booked in for a tune next Tuesday.

Will keep everyone posted

-Anth
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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Elliot, I only with I had your fuels down here you yanks get so much better results then us Aussies.

Will let you know the results

-Anth
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