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Old 04-03-13, 02:56 PM
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[QUOTE=Customisbetter;11427842]Well the weld will be mostly in the temperature of the coolant which is not too hot. What you really need to worry about is the height of the weld. It can't be too tall or the compression from reassembly will crush the weld and leak. Also you might want to check out Rotary Evolution's Coolant Savers. He was banned yesterday but he should be back soon...

dude. this looks good. really good!! this will probably be the solution ill go for.
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right. sent a mail to rotaryevolution. hopefully he has them in stock and can get them to me soon. in the meantime i have a bunch to do so ill just crack on.

on a lighter note, my steelies came today. ill be sending them off next week for widening. yummy =)

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and yes, i do stick my pinky out when i take piccys. cos im posh of course
Old 04-03-13, 07:05 PM
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hmm.. im getting worried again. this solution that rotary evolution is offering seems more like a prevention and not a cure. after reading a fair bit on the matter i would definitely use this product, but it seems like im still screwed. i really dont want to weld if it means that theyre just going to blow sooner or later. ugh this is, to use one of clokkers expressions, a right royal PITA....
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How hard is it to source irons in your landskap?
Old 04-04-13, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by clokker
How hard is it to source irons in your landskap?
the s4 is so unusual here im sad to say. not like in the states where there seems to be a lot more of these. ive been living in stockholm for 6 years now and iv'e only seen three fc's and now i own one of those that i saw!
its a bit of a double edged sword really cos its a unique car here but theres not much out here in the way of parts or spares.
i just received good news though. there is a specialist here in sweden that i emailed yesterday and he has both housings! my rear housing only had a little crack and was pushing out but i'm not taking any chances.
i must say i feel relieved i was really starting to worry there!
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Lucky you.
I figured the next we'd hear would be about your newly planned Volvo engine swap.
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Hahahaha nah man i would never rape my car in that manner. I have the Rb exhaust and flywheel on the way so i was determined to fix my six port come hell or high water! I was at the carage now and just cleaned a bit. Work tmrw then the whole weekend Will be dedicated to cleaning everything in readyness for the rebuild. =)
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i know i said i would resume cleaning on saturday earlier. i thought i would just go home and chill.,,,
weeeell..... i couldnt hold myself so after i had done my errrands i went back and did a bit of cleaning on the houses that hadnt betrayed me. the white spirits had done theyre job nicely and with a bit of scrubbing with my copper brush it soon looked quite nice! im not a perfectionist but i definately scrubbed more than i really needed to. the brake cleaner and air pistol got the rest of the crap out that i couldnt scrub out. then i got my drill and a wire brush and went to town on the outsides of the rotor houses. i was racing against the clock (daylight) so i didnt go all out either but they turned out faiirly nice too!

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when i removed the engine those 13b marks werent even visible because of the copious amounts of dirt and grime covering them.

there was one thing i was wondering about and that was these exhaust ports. there is a funny bit of metal in the way and i just wondered what it was? i would obviously have to remove it for porting and i dont see that that wouls be a problem but i just thought i'd show a pic of it just in case theres something important im missing. (by the way i have cleaned this area since taking this picture).

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Old 04-04-13, 02:20 PM
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oh yeah, and i was going to sand the insides of the rotor housings, rotor faces, and surfaces that would require a seal with a flatblock. i have 240 grit sandpaper. is this still too rough? will a light sanding do? they looked to be in very good condition. no scoring or discoloration anywhere..
Old 04-04-13, 03:13 PM
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jesus christ ive been trying to get a clear-cut idea of what i should do when porting. i have read quite a bit but it seems that porting depends quite simply on what other mods i have and what i want and so on and my head is spinning..
from what i understand i would only need to port it to the template and then taper it towards the round hole for the header. am i being stupid now? im not chasing power on this car (thats what the skyline is for) but a little bit extra power and better flow wouldnt go amiss... im asking because i was thinking of doing it this weekend..
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Why don't you email one of the Rotarys- Evolution or Resurrection- and ask them?

The metal in the exhaust port is a diffuser...not sure whether or not you want to keep them.

I'd spray your nice fresh housings with some sort of paint before they start oxidizing.
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Aaahh THATS what a diffuser is.. I read about them and rotaryevolution wrote in another thread that they could be taken away. I geuss ill just grind them out and port according to the template. Whats the worst that can happen? *famous last words* =p
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And the paint is a Good idea. I just want a light colour so i can see leaks if im that unlucky..
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No piccys today. Not sure if bags of freshly cleaned engine parts are so exciting to look at.. =) The gentleman I spoke with for the rear and intermediate housings suggested that I do some lapping and balancing which I have decided I will do. A man thats been fixing rotarys since I was six years olds advice is worth taking. Just waiting for my flywheel to arrive then ill be taking the whole lot down to him (a nice 3-4 hour drive each way) and get some tips to boot =)
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sorry for the lack of activity over the last few days, ive been working because this guy called bill keeps sending letters to my house asking for money =)

good news and bad news really, i received my flywheel yesterday and it was in really good condition. thanks to goran for packaging it so well!

...and then the bad news. the relationship has broken down at the garage i share with three other guys and the person who has his name on the contract decided quite spitefully to give me an ultimatum to remove my car and all my stuff within two weeks.
im trying to see this as just a 'slight' hindrance but its obviously going to cost me money, time and effort to move all my stuff right in the middle of my project. i have not been able to find anywhere else to put my car but i can have it outside my friends garage for a couple of weeks while i sort out the rest.
im considering just asking the fellow who is going to lap my irons and balance the drivetrain to put together the motor for me considering i dont have anywhere really to work on the car anymore and then i hope my friend will be able to let me use his garage for a day to install the engine.
i feel a bit sabotaged but i am determined to finish my car by the summer. update soon and wish me luck! looks like im going to need it..
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Well, good luck.
Too bad about all the garage drama...I thought Swedes were supposed to be easy going and taciturn.
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Originally Posted by clokker
Well, good luck.
Too bad about all the garage drama...I thought Swedes were supposed to be easy going and taciturn.
thanks clokker. in general they are quite easy-going and its quite easy to avoid conflict but it seems i met a bit of a special case. it was foolish of me to go into this arrangement without knowing him as i know him now and trusting him far enough to not draw up a simple contract but you live and learn eh?
its probably for the best anyway. i need a garage that's warm in the winter and now i know how to make sure this wont happen again.
ill be going down to leave my engine in on saturday so ill have a much better idea of how im going to solve this =)
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It's a shame your situation is so discombobulated because sending the engine out for assembly is one of those "cloud-with-a-silver-lining" situations.

An empty engine bay is the ideal playground for all the support work that's so difficult with the engine in place. Cleaning up the electrical in particular is much easier when you can crawl in and manhandle the beast directly.

Of course, this is best done under cover...which you don't seem to have, so...
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yeah a proper spanner in the works this.. im hoping that with the right amount of planning and preparation. i should be able to maximise the time i have to work on the car inside. im not sure that cleaning up the electronics would be a speedy affair for me because i basicly suck at it. saying that theres not much im 'good' at either. i will mostly be leaning on my stubborness and refusal to fail in this =)
i reckon i should get away with the power steering, a/c and air pump delete in a day as long as i have all the stuff i need for the job and then another day for the installation of the motor. with an extra pair of hands i might get away with it..
as long as i get the car rolling i have all summer to find somewhere else to tinker
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im not sure that cleaning up the electronics would be a speedy affair for me because i basicly suck at it.
Well then, it's fortunate for you that no "electronics" are involved...we're talking wires and connectors here, basically, plumbing with electricity.
You need not know anything about the wires except where they plug in.

-Disconnect everything (one plug at a time), clean contacts and pack with dielectric grease...plug back in. Don't ignore the main engine fusebox and spark plug wires.

-Remove every bulb from it's socket. If socket is clean, grease bulb base and reinstall. If bulb or socket is corroded, clean/replace.

-Clean/sand every ground point, assemble with grease (seeing a trend here with the dielectric grease?).

-Rewrap any frayed, crumbled, oil soaked sections of the harness.

As long as you're not pruning the harness of unused circuits you don't need any electrical knowledge, all the above is pretty mechanical.

Even this basic level of attention can save you a lot of grief down the line.
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(seeing a trend here with the dielectric grease?)
you definitely took the edge off of my fear of the whole electronics thing! i actually have the whole harness out so i should be able to make short work of that. the rest of the deletes i should be able to do outdoors too right? i dont need to lift the car for them and i still have to wait a week for my motor to be ready so it will give me somethiing to do =)
im starting to feel better about this already! must say i was feeling a little discouraged by the whole garage thing..
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just good news for this update..
yesterday consisted mostly of driving cramped up in a little nissan micra westwards through some the most english weather ive experienced in sweden. yes, grey clouds and cold, pissy rain.
nevertheless, i had music and good company so it went relatively quick. met the chap who had the irons for me and he invited us to his workshop to go through the parts i had taken down with me and discuss what we would be doing with my poor old 13b.
to say impressive would be putting it lightly! the aforementioned gentleman is a real enthusiast. i dont think ive ever met anyone who has put so much enthusiasm, time and energy into ANYTHING like this guy puts into rotary engines. i look forward to seeing his personal restoration projects come to fruition. his inventory was extensive (he even had a couple 20b's) and after talking with him for a half an hour i was assured that i had come to the right place. he was very pleasant, polite and knowledgeable and gave comprehensive advice as to what i should do to attain a nice, tight motor. we ended up chatting for four hours! i left him knowing that id left my engine in the right hands. he had a couple of engines to build first so it will take a few weeks but i have other things to do so my hands wont be idle =)
the other good news is that i managed to solve the situation with the garage! i found another place that is better than the last and with a proper nice fella so i will be able to continue working on my car without any unnecessary drama.
i will be focusing on moving my stuff over the next couple of days then i can back to working on the 7. yay!
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Congratulations on both fronts.
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Another Little update so that you know im still Alive hehe. All i can say is that over the last couple weeks i have both Lost and regained my Faith in Humanity. Moved garage today so now ill be able to get cracking with old Betty again. Updates with Pictures soon!
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Ah, the ebb and flow of the build thread...

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