Getting her back on the road again (and sitting pretty..)
#576
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[Epic automotive battle intensifies]
I hope it's something simple like the fuel pump man, I really do. You're damn right you deserve a smooth startup for a change, always working through your thousands of debilitating illnesses that you seem to get. (How do you get sick so often anyway? Do you just go around town licking the faces of small children?)
I can't remember and there's too many pages to check back through, but have you done any work on the fuel pump or the wiring? When I got my fc running the first time I had a periodic no-start issue that ended up being old shitty OEM wiring and relay. As a band-aid fix I ended up running new wires on a switch to the pump from the ignition so I could just turn the pump on manually. This time I'll be doing it properly with a proper relay.
I would get a buddy to turn the key while you check voltage with a multimeter right at the pump itself
Good luck homie
-sean
I hope it's something simple like the fuel pump man, I really do. You're damn right you deserve a smooth startup for a change, always working through your thousands of debilitating illnesses that you seem to get. (How do you get sick so often anyway? Do you just go around town licking the faces of small children?)
I can't remember and there's too many pages to check back through, but have you done any work on the fuel pump or the wiring? When I got my fc running the first time I had a periodic no-start issue that ended up being old shitty OEM wiring and relay. As a band-aid fix I ended up running new wires on a switch to the pump from the ignition so I could just turn the pump on manually. This time I'll be doing it properly with a proper relay.
I would get a buddy to turn the key while you check voltage with a multimeter right at the pump itself
Good luck homie
-sean
I think blame is right to think fuel pump.
The circuit meanders all over the car and is potentially vulnerable in several places.
After all you've done, a slight detour is really not a big deal and a stable fuel supply is much to be desired.
Your S4 fuel bulkhead connectors are really easy to tap into, running a hot wire direct from battery to terminal is a piece o cake. Disconnect the feed line to the rails (after the filter) and juice the pump, see what comes out.
She will decide when you deserve to hear her run, not you.
The circuit meanders all over the car and is potentially vulnerable in several places.
After all you've done, a slight detour is really not a big deal and a stable fuel supply is much to be desired.
Your S4 fuel bulkhead connectors are really easy to tap into, running a hot wire direct from battery to terminal is a piece o cake. Disconnect the feed line to the rails (after the filter) and juice the pump, see what comes out.
She will decide when you deserve to hear her run, not you.
i can only hope that roger is there today maybe he can give me a hand checking.
right im off. hopefully i can come back with some good news today
#577
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roger was there today and more than willing to help out thank goodness.
i really dont have the first clue when it comes to electronics and it is becoming more and more obvious how debilitating it is to my hobby.
the first thing that roger noticed was all the loose connection all over the engine bay that have resulted from the removal of the P/S, AC and the airpump. he checked alot of stuff and because i didnt really understand most of it i think it would be misleading to write up my discombobulated account of what he did so ill keep it simple. he noticed that someone (most likely the PO or the person that installed the immobiliser has done something with the wires to the fuel pump. he based this assumption upon the fact that the wires going to the fuel pump and the ones after the connection were different colors.
these are the cables going to the fuel pump..
and these are the cables after the connector..
he wanted me to find out which cable fed power to the fuel pump.
im wondering if there is some kind of write up about this ill have to have a look. roger said he would help me tomorrow. he said we would start by troubleshooting a bit and if that was too much headache he would just run a cable directly from the ignition to the pump with a switch and a fuse.
im just going to keep reading and searching and see if i can understand this system so that i can be of some kind of help tomorrow.
i really dont have the first clue when it comes to electronics and it is becoming more and more obvious how debilitating it is to my hobby.
the first thing that roger noticed was all the loose connection all over the engine bay that have resulted from the removal of the P/S, AC and the airpump. he checked alot of stuff and because i didnt really understand most of it i think it would be misleading to write up my discombobulated account of what he did so ill keep it simple. he noticed that someone (most likely the PO or the person that installed the immobiliser has done something with the wires to the fuel pump. he based this assumption upon the fact that the wires going to the fuel pump and the ones after the connection were different colors.
these are the cables going to the fuel pump..
and these are the cables after the connector..
he wanted me to find out which cable fed power to the fuel pump.
im wondering if there is some kind of write up about this ill have to have a look. roger said he would help me tomorrow. he said we would start by troubleshooting a bit and if that was too much headache he would just run a cable directly from the ignition to the pump with a switch and a fuse.
im just going to keep reading and searching and see if i can understand this system so that i can be of some kind of help tomorrow.
#579
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could well be man.. something is definately amiss though. since we installed the engine i have removed the spark plugs almost everytime to check if there was fuel on them. sometimes there is and sometimes not. its really wierd. the last time i started the car (maybe 3 months ago) it started fine everytime. now all of a sudden nothing works. im either cursed or just going through what alot of fc owners probably go through.
roger will solve it im sure. the best thing i can do is pay attention so that i can actually learn something =)
roger will solve it im sure. the best thing i can do is pay attention so that i can actually learn something =)
#580
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That's completely normal, I ran into the same issue on my car(s).
The wire colors on the body harness side match the manual's schematic (L/G is pump, W/R is fuel gauge and W/G is LOW fuel in the idiot cluster) but the patch harness from there to the tank bulkhead are just random.
Just follow the blue/green guy and you're there.
The wire colors on the body harness side match the manual's schematic (L/G is pump, W/R is fuel gauge and W/G is LOW fuel in the idiot cluster) but the patch harness from there to the tank bulkhead are just random.
Just follow the blue/green guy and you're there.
#585
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The glorious day will come when the infidel realises the true strength pf our neutrality!!
Bugger. Its 6am and i have imbibed alot of fermented herring juice. This may affect the outcome of tomorrows (todays?) Attempts to sort out the seven. Fortunately i have monday tuesday and wednesday off/unemployed.
Bugger. Its 6am and i have imbibed alot of fermented herring juice. This may affect the outcome of tomorrows (todays?) Attempts to sort out the seven. Fortunately i have monday tuesday and wednesday off/unemployed.
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The banter in this thread between you both certainly is most entertaining. And the wiring at the pump, just as stated. Same as mine as I literally had it in my hands this afternoon. Your are not crazy.
#588
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if i had a choice i would just have a normal full time job but i have just had no luck/flow over the last six months and even though i have managed to get a reasonably good paycheck every month, have technically been unemployed the whole time. i have just survived by bouncing from job to job most of which have been sorted out by friends and former colleagues that know im going through a rough patch and have kept their ears to the ground. i am very grateful for their help! as you can imagine this is not a fun way to live but im just having to do what it takes to keep things moving. i hope that i have made sense here
i must say the seven is doing a good job of trying to drive me crazy with all these intermittent problems though
i woke up reasonably early and fairly hungover raring to go only to be reminded that today was the annual cleaning day for our apartment building. its quite nice, a good chance to meet the new neighbours and you get hotdogs and påskmust (read wierd swedish coca cola) at the end so i spent most of the afternoon raking old leaves and clipping hedges. once i was done i rolled over to the garage only to find that we had had a power out. we have been told that itll be back on tomorrow. i took it as a sign and just took a coffee and a chat with roger.
although i got NOTHING done i had a good day. its a funny old life eh?
#590
Firstly, love this thread you and clokker are quite comical, secondly wtf.. Sweden is supposed to be more right wing than Canada and I am paying a total of 41% taxes ! upper middle class sucks in Canada lol
#591
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true but i wouldnt mind hearing the old girl sputter to life just so that i know she's capable of it.
*disclaimer*
seeing as the feminist movement is so bloody popular right now among the 'artsy' i feel as i may have to cover my **** concerning my frequent referrals to the seven as a female. in my opinion, women are lovely to look at, (most of em anyway, im not that picky) and so is my seven. hence the reference.
this disclaimer has alot to do with me living round the corner from an arts college. i get feminism crammed down my throat quite regularly. because its so bloody trendy and apparrently equality isnt a no brainer for some people
plus you guys weather sucks just as much as ours so it wouldnt make that much of a difference hehe =) next stop canada!
little update. turns out that the 'power cut' the other day wasnt one. there has been a dispute between my garage buddy and the guy who owns the garages over money and he has gone and turned off the electricity. and geuss whos piggy in the middle? yep yours truly.
i have actually been to the garage everyday since i last updated and not been able to do anything. i had planned to at least paint the black details matt black but its just cold and dark and i didnt much feel like working with a headlamp freezing me nackers off.
joel helped me a bit today due to my embarressing incompetence with car electronics and he showed me how to confirm a couple of things. the fuel pump works, the relay works, (pictured below)
as you can see i had to use a lamp to light up the area i was photographing due to the darkness..
and this bugger here was getting 9v.
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is 9v enough? roger seemed to think that it should suffice. joel mentioned something about the injectors. can it be them? sorry guys im at a bit of a loss here...
#593
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if this the case then i can assume that its working correctly.
heres the diagram for mine anyway..
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i dont really know what could be causing me to all of a sudden be getting NO fuel all of a sudden when the motor started and ran a couple months ago just fine. saying that, since then i have removed the motor a bit (to change the engine mounts) and removed and installed the UIM a couple times. i may have missed something during this process but i havent the faintest what it could be. i geuss ill go there tomorrow and see how far i can get. looks like working this out by myself is unavoidable despite my best efforts
#595
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#596
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i went through all the pictures i have saved but couldnt seem to trace them on the bloody labarynth the vacuum harness is. so just to make sure...
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im pretty sure i have attatched the feeed hose (the hose that comes from the fuel filter) to the one on the right.
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im pretty sure i have attatched the feeed hose (the hose that comes from the fuel filter) to the one on the right.
#598
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I am officially the biggest dumbass on the planet. You were right! As embarressing and frustrating it is that it was something so simple, i am at the same time excited as a 5 yr old on christmas eve. Right. Time to move a furk-loada cement blocks again and get her out in the fresh air! Ill update later :-)
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It is silly, your car and my new car are twins. well, yours got a new heart, I'm giving mine cpr after not going to the gym for 20 years,and then trying to impress a gal by lifting more then It should.
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