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Darrin Wagers 08-26-12 02:31 PM

This is impressive. Respect

John Huijben 08-27-12 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution (Post 11198988)
99% of the time it is hot here, no one has air conditioning and 90% of the motors are limping around with blown coolant seals.. lol.


honestly you don't even need to run 2 plugs per chamber, the power difference won't be huge nor will fuel consumption. which is probably why we're both thinking about the same ECU.

Yeah I know, but it's easy to just fire 2 ignition plugs at the same time with one ignition channel so I don't see a good reason to use 1 plug per chamber.

Still working on the wiring at the moment, already spend a lot of time on it and I'm not even nearly done :( This is the ecu which I mounted in the stock location together with the lsu 4.9 lambda controller/sensor.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...2/CIMG2427.JPG

j9fd3s 08-27-12 05:18 PM

lol, that ecu is teeny!

blk87Turbo2 08-27-12 10:08 PM

I wouldn't trust my passengers not to step on it, lol.

tegheim 08-28-12 04:53 AM

What coils are you attending to use?

Black and Blue RX 08-28-12 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by John Huijben
This is the ecu which I mounted in the stock location together with the lsu 4.9 lambda controller/sensor.

It's the ECU that will say "check engine"...:lol:

Grtz Dee.

damic 08-28-12 12:33 PM

Good one dennis :D

@tegheim: he wil use coil on plugs form a Suzuki gsx (I tought)

87FCTurboII 09-04-12 11:25 AM

I'm itching for an update, anything new?

RTY PWR 09-05-12 11:20 AM

Cant wait to see this thing done!

John Huijben 09-05-12 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by tegheim (Post 11202841)
What coils are you attending to use?

I've got a couple of combo's I can try on the dyno, but I'm going to start with denso coil on plug coils from a honda / suzuki motorcycle.




Originally Posted by 87FCTurboII (Post 11210230)
I'm itching for an update, anything new?

Not really, still working on the wiring. I'm putting in a lot of hours but it's just soo much work, I'm about 2/3rd done now. When starting I already figured building an entire wiring harness out of scratch for the entire car would be a lot of work... I was wrong, it's not a lot of work, it's a huuuge near infinite amount of work! Me spending the majority of the time trying to figure out how 80's electronics actually works doesn't help either :scratch:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...2/CIMG2442.JPG



Originally Posted by RTY PWR (Post 11211268)
Cant wait to see this thing done!

Yeah, me too!

REAmemiya_fan 09-05-12 11:02 PM

Want to re-wire my car when you're done? :D

mx-3_4evr 09-05-12 11:38 PM

I'm in the same boat that you are right now with the wiring harness. Did you kept the stock headlight / turn signal switches? How did you do it? do you have a wiring diagram of your set up? Loving this build!

tegheim 09-05-12 11:59 PM

You can make a plug-n-play harness for 26B in FC3S :D

MrGoodnight 09-09-12 01:04 AM

What are you on vacation or something? Get to work! LOL

Can't wait for an update, if you can't tell.
I like that you are going for a streetable build, which is awesome! Very inspiring.

John Huijben 09-09-12 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by REAmemiya_fan (Post 11211970)
Want to re-wire my car when you're done? :D

No I don't, These wires are making me insane!



Originally Posted by mx-3_4evr (Post 11212013)
I'm in the same boat that you are right now with the wiring harness. Did you kept the stock headlight / turn signal switches? How did you do it? do you have a wiring diagram of your set up? Loving this build!

Yeah, I used all the original switches, even the oem logicon completely works. I don't have a wiring diagram but it's pretty much wired the same way as stock. I did modify a few things though, I used new relays for everything, I ditched the oem turn signal / horn unit in favour of a small universal blinking relay, and ditched the oem fuse box in favour of a smaller simpler one. Everything is a lot more simple now, very easy to troubleshoot if anything goes wrong. Pulling the engine out will also be a breeze since the engine will have a seperate wiring loom with a big multipin connector that links the engine to the chassis. I also made the loom so that during cranking only the engine, ecu and oil pressure gauge gets power, to save some of the battery power drain to help get the 4-rotor engine going. It's all not really super difficult or anything, you just have to get into it. Get a laptop with the rx7 wiring diagram, a lot of wires with different colours, and soldering stuff, connectors, crimping tools, heatshrink stuff, labeling stuff ect. and just start.



Originally Posted by tegheim (Post 11212030)
You can make a plug-n-play harness for 26B in FC3S :D

Yeah sure thing, hell, while I'm at it I'd better start cranking out complete plug-n-play 4-rotor kits for FC's and FD's :nod:



Originally Posted by MrGoodnight (Post 11215447)
What are you on vacation or something? Get to work! LOL

Can't wait for an update, if you can't tell.
I like that you are going for a streetable build, which is awesome! Very inspiring.

Well, an update wouldn't be very interesting, still busy on the wiring loom. I can post a picture, but it would pretty much look the same as the last one, a bare chassis with a bunch of wires in it. It is coming along great though, I'm nearly done so I can start putting things on the car soon. Also going to pick up some sick wheels tomorrow, already have a set of 18x8.5 et35 SSR type C wheels, but I'm going to ditch them in favour of something better :)

killingtime33 09-09-12 06:43 PM

i feel like a teenage girl at a backstreet boys concert waiting on your update then you drop a huge one on us by saying your going to pick up some sick wheels but not say what their going to be i dont think i could take much more you have to post pics asap ....... please ;)

Robert Stanton 09-09-12 09:10 PM

Subscribed, this is awesome

njhns92 09-10-12 01:04 AM

I can see your freshly painted white interior is getting a weeeee bit dirty! hahaha I'm having the exact same problem with my build, shes gonna need a little touch up paint after the cage is in.

Ocho Siete 09-10-12 07:06 AM

I am curious to know what kind of training you have done to obtain the skills you have using the cnc ? and what programs you used to design the custom parts ex. radiator, eccentric shaft, and other engine parts ?

great build and keep up the excellent work

joe88convertable 09-10-12 09:06 AM

^^read all 39 pages.....then the only question will be, WHEN DO I GET TO SEE THIS BEAST RUNNING!!!

Furb 09-10-12 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by John Huijben (Post 11215860)
I also made the loom so that during cranking only the engine, ecu and oil pressure gauge gets power, to save some of the battery power drain to help get the 4-rotor engine going

Dude, thats not going to work... you forgot the fuel pump :D

Furb 09-10-12 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by joe88convertable (Post 11216664)
^^read all 39 pages.....then the only question will be, WHEN DO I GET TO SEE THIS BEAST RUNNING!!!

Wanted to say the same thing, its all mentioned in this thread..

JK5S 09-10-12 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ocho Siete (Post 11216580)
I am curious to know what kind of training you have done to obtain the skills you have using the cnc ? and what programs you used to design the custom parts ex. radiator, eccentric shaft, and other engine parts ?

great build and keep up the excellent work

I would think he's a Mechanical Engineer by trade, they like to use Solid Works and or ANSYS finite element software for design. Combine that with love for Wankel and a sweet machine shop, bam he's the Nederlands Jessie James. :worship:

John Huijben 09-10-12 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by killingtime33 (Post 11216082)
i feel like a teenage girl at a backstreet boys concert waiting on your update then you drop a huge one on us by saying your going to pick up some sick wheels but not say what their going to be i dont think i could take much more you have to post pics asap ....... please ;)

Did you just compare me with the backstreet boys? Really?? Wow... that's a first :scratch:, anyway sorry to keep you waiting :), got some info and wheel pictures.

This is one of the SSR wheels I was originally planning to use,

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l...2/CIMG2443.JPG

Pretty nice I think, but 18" might be a bit much on a pretty stock bodied FC, I really like the way some FC's looked with agressive 16" ones, and found these for dirt cheap so I couldn't pass them up. Should go well with the white too after a bit of polishing

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B...2/CIMG2477.JPG

They are BBS RZ394's, need a bit of work to fit and look good but I think I can make it work. Good thing I didn't paint my front wings yet, I already rolled and pulled those but it's going to be close, might need to massage those a bit more and get some lower profile tyres, the ones that are on there now are huge!

Big lip, check!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4...2/CIMG2463.JPG



Originally Posted by njhns92 (Post 11216474)
I can see your freshly painted white interior is getting a weeeee bit dirty! hahaha I'm having the exact same problem with my build, shes gonna need a little touch up paint after the cage is in.

Yeah I know, the white is near impossible to keep clean when working on the car. Shouldn't need a touch-up when done though, just a good clean. :)



Originally Posted by Ocho Siete (Post 11216580)
I am curious to know what kind of training you have done to obtain the skills you have using the cnc ? and what programs you used to design the custom parts ex. radiator, eccentric shaft, and other engine parts ?

great build and keep up the excellent work

I did what I think you call polytechnic school, and nothing is done using cnc, everything is done manually. As for programs I used solidworks for the most stuff, and a little autocad here and there if I want to sketch something simple out quick or need some coordinates for re-drilling wheels or something.



Originally Posted by Furb (Post 11216665)
Dude, thats not going to work... you forgot the fuel pump :D

Crap, you're right :nod: I forgot to mention it because it isn't powered through the ignition switch :blush:, the fuel pump relay is wired directly to the battery and the ecu turns the relay on.

killingtime33 09-10-12 07:23 PM

yeah sorry dude your my living hero at this point those bbs are sick i would go with them that is if you planned on staying with smaller brakes


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