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Old 05-11-15, 08:28 PM
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NJ 93 FD Single Turbo needs serious TLC

Chris here, hoping this thread will help with motivation and ideas.

I wanted an FD when I was in high school but clearly couldn't afford one. Now, being older and more financially capable, I decided it was time. Unfortunately, I let my excitement get the best of me and I picked one up that I probably shouldn't have in retrospect.

How I bought it:
GT35R Single Turbo
Greddy FMIC
Apexi PowerFC w/ Commander
Koyo Type N Radiator
Tial Q Blow Off Valve
Tial Wastegate (not sure of size or spring)
Rotaryworks 90mm throttle body
Aeromotive FPR (I think)
Racing Beat exhaust
Magnaflow midpipe
Unknown downpipe
Supra fuel pump
Bosch 850cc primaries and 1680cc secondaries (EV1 I believe)
HKS ignition kit
Pettit spark plug wires

The only thing I did so far was remove the front and installed a 4" K&N cone on the turbo inlet. Feel free to ID any parts here that I didn't. Here's some pics, that's what you really want if you're reading this.



An engine bay shot.



The top of the engine.



The FMIC



Some plug that was just dangling, I dunno what it's for.



Wrapped downpipe



Battery relocated to the trunk.



I noticed this oil on the pan. I don't like the looks of that...



Oil cooler missing a bracket.

Really I have no idea what I'm going to do with it now. It was a bit discouraging realizing it wasn't as ready for the road as I thought.

My next step is to get the radiator mounted since it's basically just standing there loose right now. Then I can hopefully finish the piping, get the PowerFC tuned (it's not tuned so it just floods if you try to start it), and see where I go from there.

I did exchange messages with Ihor at IRP and I'm hoping to swap the injectors on his suggestion and probably return the throttle body to stock. Once it's running and can leave the garage under its own power, I can take it to him and get better quality work done than I'm capable of.

Wish me luck. I feel I'll need plenty of it.

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Doesn't look like it's too far away from being ready for the road. I think that plug is for the air temp sensor? positioned on the underside the upper intake manifold.

Good luck
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Ya man I think you're overreacting a bit, it's not so bad. Just get a tune and drive her. Look like a bit of rust too but not in concerning spots. Good luck!
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Dude it's not that bad at all !!
Try to take care of that rust while you there,
That's would be my main concern
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It looks like a lot of nice parts with sloppy installation.

First off, there's a yellow silicone vacuum line going from the upper intake manifold to the brake booster. Personally, I would get the stock hard line with the stock rubber lines on each end and run that. If not, that line needs hose clamps and it's supposed to have a check valve so the booster only sees vacuum, not boost. No check valve or failed check valve can mean no power brakes, which in a split second can mean a wreck or worse.

Looks like typical FD leaky oil pan. Most likely it's not leaking hard enough to be a worry, just messy. It's a bitch of a job to do with the motor in the car, I'd rather have the motor out to fix that.

There's a loop of the stainless fuel line hanging out in space over the turbo. I wouldn't want a fuel line anywhere close to that much heat, I don't know what that line is rated for. You really don't want that line to fail and spray gas over a hot turbo!

Personally, I would strip things down, neaten/clean things up, go through and check everything, paint and clean. Some sloppy workmanship can just mean an eyesore, some could mean an accident or an engine fire.

And, PLEASE get rid of that yellow vacuum hose. Boostcontroller.com sells very nice quality 3.5mm BLACK silicon vacuum hose for a great price.

Good luck!
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In addition to what Dale said, the Factory Service Manual and Parts List are great references to sort out maligned installs.

If it's something you don't want to tackle, contact Ihor at IR Performance. He has a good rep for working on rotaries

IRPerformance | 55 Prospect Street, Metuchen, NJ 08840 Tel. (732) 662-1794

And hope the battery is solidly connected to the car
Old 05-12-15, 11:09 AM
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Looks like you have the CJ Motorsport fuel system, that will make upgrading injector pretty easy, or you can just stick with what you have.
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As I hoped you've all provided some much needed motivation and perspective. I appreciate it greatly.

Originally Posted by TheSquiid
I think that plug is for the air temp sensor? positioned on the underside the upper intake manifold.
Defly going to check that, thanks!

Originally Posted by 7speed
Ya man I think you're overreacting a bit, it's not so bad. Just get a tune and drive her. Look like a bit of rust too but not in concerning spots. Good luck!
Sometimes we just need a swift kick in the @$$ to motivate.

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Try to take care of that rust while you there, That's would be my main concern
Agree, but one of the problems is very limited time to work on it. So I'm hoping to address the mechanical matters enough to have it run and get it to a pro like Ihor. Then once it's mechanically solid, I can address the aesthetics. Notice I have no body/interior pics.

Originally Posted by DaleClark
First off, there's a yellow silicone vacuum line going from the upper intake manifold to the brake booster. Personally, I would get the stock hard line with the stock rubber lines on each end and run that.

Looks like typical FD leaky oil pan. Most likely it's not leaking hard enough to be a worry, just messy.

There's a loop of the stainless fuel line hanging out in space over the turbo.

Personally, I would strip things down, neaten/clean things up, go through and check everything, paint and clean. Some sloppy workmanship can just mean an eyesore, some could mean an accident or an engine fire.

And, PLEASE get rid of that yellow vacuum hose. Boostcontroller.com sells very nice quality 3.5mm BLACK silicon vacuum hose for a great price.
Thanks Dale, I'll check out each of these things this weekend hopefully. I edited your post to keep a list for myself. That fuel line to turbo proximity didn't even register in my head. Yikes! Defly want to resolve that.

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In addition to what Dale said, the Factory Service Manual and Parts List are great references to sort out maligned installs.
Defly, I got all the manuals I found and have been reading them, even on my phone while in transit. I exchanged some messages with Ihor and I'm looking forward to getting the car to him. I have an agreement with the wife that since she let me get it, it needs to leave the garage under its own power.

Originally Posted by ZE Power MX6
Looks like you have the CJ Motorsport fuel system, that will make upgrading injector pretty easy, or you can just stick with what you have.
I had no idea about the fuel system, thanks. It seems like the EV1 Bosch are not as friendly to tune, so I wouldn't mind getting the EV14 or Injector Dymanics if it will help the end result.

Hopefully I can make more time. I have more funds and patience than time and knowledge at this time. I'm spending as much time as I can researching and reading other threads.
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Originally Posted by Nemo128
Notice I have no body/interior pics.
Check build threads for pictures, or better yet, find another FD owner that's local

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I have an agreement with the wife that since she let me get it, it needs to leave the garage under its own power.
Wives and FDs are a delicate balance.

I find Jim Ellis Mazda Parts a good source for part numbers. For the brake vacuum lines, you need two parts, FDY2-43-480 (the vacuum hoses with check valve) and FD01-43-840B (the tube that bolts to the firewall). The tube you may be able to source posting a WTB, but parts that degrade (i.e. rubber), you should replace new. Malloy Mazda is the best source for prices


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Originally Posted by TomU
I find Jim Ellis Mazda Parts a good source for part numbers. For the brake vacuum lines, you need two parts, FDY2-43-480 (the vacuum hoses with check valve) and FD01-43-840B (the tube that bolts to the firewall).
Will do, and I'll just buy new. I rather do it right than do it twice. Price isn't a problem. I don't think Malloy has a parts site, seems like I need to call. I'll do that first chance I get. Thanks!
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I go my car in a similar condition and after 10 months, 5k, and pulling everything out of the car other than the dash, I finally have a running and driving car. Hopefully you bought it right and you can justify the time and money you will put into it, but I will second that you are over reacting a bit. You have a lot of really go parts to start with, you just need to take your time and build it right and into something you can take some pride in.

Good luck and I look forward to seeing the progress.
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BTW, the two stock brake vacuum hoses are available as a "brake recall kit". I think it's cheaper to get that kit than the individual hoses.

I'd call Ray at Malloy Mazda and ask him.

The one that goes into the booster has an integrated check valve.

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I just ordered the brake booster vac hose wirh check valve from ray two wks ago. It's like $17 and come with a vac hose for the brake booster and one for the uim.
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^ Yep, that should be the recall kit, much cheaper way of doing it.

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Anyone have a the part numbers for this recall kit?
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Call up Ray Crowe at Malloy Mazda, no part # needed
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The part no for the brake vac hoses should be FDY2-43-480. Call Ray. He will hook you up
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Where are you in NJ? Why not stop by IR Performance in Metuchen to let the boys check the car out ?
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Where are you in NJ? Why not stop by IR Performance in Metuchen to let the boys check the car out ?
Definitely will, once I get it running. Next time it rolls out of the garage it needs to be under its own power.

I called up Ray but had to leave a voicemail. Hopefully hear back. I plan to order whatever, so feel free to come up with other ideas. Brake recall kit, passenger side oil cooler bracket so far.

Also plan to get the injectors. First, what do you guys think, Bosch EV14 or Injector Dynamics? Also, sizes good? I don't plan to go any higher in power than what the GT35R is capable of. No larger swap in my mind. Lastly, good source? I think IRP sells them and I like supporting local small businesses.

Any thoughts on solidly mounting the radiator? I could just bend up some brackets but I'd rather do something cleaner.

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Also, since I'm a lanky bastid, I think I need a steering wheel change. I sit as far back as a I can, but the wheel hits my knees. I fell in love with this one.



Momo Eagle. Thoughts? I think I also need a seat swap and floor-mounted rails, but that will wait until I work out the mechanical things and get to at least drive the car.
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Is that a yellow vacuum hose going from a nipple under the UIM to the back of the UIM? You probably just get caps for that :P I agree that the yellow needs to go. I'm tall and my knees hit the steering wheel too, but I can't stand aftermarket steering wheels :/
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Good build so far.

Not a fan of the steering wheel. I like my MOMO Monte Carlo personally. I got if for free though so maybe that's why ahahah.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not believe that vacuum hose you have running from the "MINI AST" cap to wherever you have it is a good idea. I think it is too small. I used a slightly larger hose and ran it to my tank, but maybe I am missing something.

As far as the color of the hose...You have red, yellow, gold, GREEN, and blue. If you're into that legos theme then Go for it. I think if you had a different color bay it may change my mind.

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Brake recall kit and oil cooker bracket ordered! Should be here Monday. This weekend, gotta wash the daily driver and do what I can from the suggestions here. We'll see how it goes.
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Some exterior pics from today, just did some inspecting of things and planning.



Rear driver side. Shows the Pettit rear flares.



Rear shot. Racing Beat dual tip, no spoiler.



Interior, needs some love. Mostly dirty, some cracked plastics.



The glove box won't stay. Also messy wiring all under the passenger side dash. Short shift kit.



View from the seat. Poorly mounted turbo timer.



Front bumper.



Door panel, and yes, my garage is a mess.



Glove box area, PowerFC hanging down isn't really visible but it's there.



Wastegate.

Weather was a lil wonky, so the daily driver will get washed tomorrow. And today, reading and researching. Still trying to think of a way to get the radiator mounted well. I have Sunex medium height stands on the way, should be here this week so I'll have the car off the ground.
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Wow, you've got a full handful there. I'm parting out a '93 VR BTW and may have much of the parts you need (i frequent the NE corridor fairly often as well). However, **** adds up quick, even with used parts. I suggest you contact IRP sooner than later. At least to understand what you may be getting yourself into cost wise

Also, do you have an undertray? It's missing in your first picture and w/o one you are prone to overheating


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