RotarySupra=horrible seller
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RotarySupra=horrible seller
Originial FS thread: https://www.rx7club.com/west-sale-wanted-classifieds-195/s5-black-black-vert-877134/
Well, in the beginning part of December, 2009, I purchased a full black interior and rear harness from RotarySupra, aka George Martinez. I sent payment on 12-10-2009. At first he worked with me real good, and I figured it would be a smooth transaction. To this date I have only received: most small pieces, carpet, harness, rear mirror. I have not received the dash, door panels, center council, etc. He has stopped replying to my pm's and emails, and he has not been on the forum since 1-10-2010.
Here's the list of PM's:
Him I double checked the interior and everything looks good.I don't have the demister grills on the dash, door vents are cracked, and the radio surround is from a s4.lmk what specific interior parts you want and I'll give you a qoute shipped to you by tonight. Thanks
Me Well, I need everything except the seats, cluster surround, and radio surround.
So I need everything from all the back pieces, carpet, dash, sun visors, door panels, etc. I'm doing a full color change so I need everything. I also need the rear view mirror assembly.
Thanks
Nate
Him Hey man, I just looked up shipping and all that,I'm willing to ship the big items thru ups or fedex. And the smaller stuff thru usps.how does 400 everything u need shipped.lmk and we can work something out.thanks
Me Yup. When can you have all of it shipped by? I'll shoot you a Paypal tomorrow when I get off work.
Thanks again
Nate
HimOk cool, I can have all this shipped out saturday morning since I have to take everything off the car and clean it. Here's my paypal cibrian_baby618@yahoo.com. Pm your adress. I'll send you tracking numbers when everything is shipped.thanks
Me Ok, just sent you a paypal. My address is:
Nate Libberton
7011 Mink Farm rd
South Wayne, WI 53587
Thanks
Him the shipping gonna be a little delayed since on I'm on bedrest cause I have pnumonia.but I'll have it sent Monday. Thanks
This was when I started wondering how this deal was going to go. But it was quite possible this was true so I wasn't too worried at the time.
Me Hey did you get that shipped out then?
Thanks
Nate
Him I sent out the interior pieces and the door sills today. my brother sent them out today so he has the tracking numbers tomorrow. The dash,harness,and carpet pieces are going to be sent out tomorrow thru fedex. I'll keep u updated, and sorry for the wait
He did send out the some of the small interior pieces and door sills.
Me Ok thanks.
Nate
Him Hey man,here's some of tracking numbers.
These are thru usps.
03082690000114133915
03082690000114133892
03082690000114133885
03082690000114133908
The carpet and the rest of the carpet pieces, I had trouble at fedex, they were being dicks about sizes and how messy the carpet was. So I have to clean it more but all these pieces should be their way.thanks
These were all valid tracking numbers. These were the small int pieces and the rear harness.
Me Alright, thanks again.
Him Hey man, I keep having trouble shipping the big items thru fedex or usps. They're bitching about the dimensions and about how I'm wrapping the dash. I've never shipped a dash or carpets. If there's anyway on how we can work something out lmk man. I feel like **** since I haven't shipped but I keep trying. Lmk on how I can ship it. Thanks
Me Have you tried UPS, they've always worked well with me. I have no clue on what other company would ship that.
But the stuff I've received already looks great. I started tearing into the car and I am finding a bunch of other stuff I'm going to need, so you might make some more money off me lol.
I guess try using UPS and see what they say, if that doesn't work I'll try to research what company other people use.
Thanks again
Nate
Him Hey man, good news. I just found out my wifes cousin works for fedex. Hell yea. Lmk what else you'll need. I still have the whole car. And some more parts should be on the way. I'll keep you updated on the situation.
Me Hey, just wondering if you had any tracking numbers, or when I can expect to see the parts in the mail?
Thanks
Nate
Him you should be reciveing the rest of the stuff mid next week.i finally got hook up with the dash,i bubble wrap the crap out of it.im out of town right now,so on sunday ill get you those numbers man,thanks.lmk if your goonna need anything else.
thanks
This was complete bullshit.
Me Hey, you have those tracking numbers then?
Thanks
Nate
Him here you go......
03082690000114053732
998ZY536SQ2485CV54
998ZY536YO8036BN78
Me What shipping company? They didn't work through fedex.
Him the first is usps...the next ones are ups
The first one was a valid tracking number, the next 2 were bullshit, never came.
At this point(1-9-10) He stopped PM'ing me
I filed a paypal dispute on 1-25-2010, Now we go to emails...
Him Hey Nate,This is Eric Martinez,i am George's brother,you know him as Rotarysupra on rx7 forum.He told me about the interior issue,my brother currently was recalled back to his unit in california,since he will be going on deployment to afghanistan next month.He tasked my younger brother of shipping the rest of the interior,but as we know 17yr old dont have any sense of responsibilty.So he didnt send them,and provide different tracking numbers to you.Im not emailing to make any excuses.i really apologize for any inconvinence and any troubles,i spoke to my brother last night,he said he wants to make things right for you.so he tasked me to send the rest of the stuff.I will,with no excuses,ship the rest of the stuff tomorrow.and i will also ask my brother to refund you some of the funds.he left me your address to send the rest of the items.also,he was notified by paypal and asked if you could end the dispute on paypal.George explained to me that none of this has never happened to him.i know he has sold and bought parts from the forums with no problems,and no other disputes.he has always shipped and paid items on time.
I will email you the tracking number,since i dont have the password to his rx7 forum log in.if you have any questions or concerns feel free to email me back to this address.i hope we figure something out.
Sounded real fishy, but I figured if I got my stuff I didn't care.
Me Ok, thank you for mailing me. I will gladly cancel the dispute once I receive the stuff in the mail. If you could get me the tracking numbers as soon as you can.
Thanks
Nate
Him hey nate.....i sent out the carpet today.im still preping the dash and the panels since their they are a little fragile.i also hae to send you the glove box and center console.ill send the console and the glove box tomorrow,i have them boxed up already.
heres the tracking number for the carpet,it was sent thru usps.
03082690000114041371
thanks and ill keep you updated.
Yes, he did send out the carpet, and it was the last thing I received.
Him hey nate,i was wondering if had recieved the carpeting?the glove box and some other stuff should be on its way by tomorrow.let me know when you cancel the dispute.the deadline is on the 9th,so hopefully we settle this and to cancel the dispute.thanks
Me Yes, I got it. Do you have tracking numbers? I will let paypal know about the situation, and get the deadline pushed back some. Once I receive all the items I will cancel it.
Thanks
Nate
At this point Paypal changed the status of the claim to 'Not as described'. I called them and they said being the seller sent me something, they couldn't do anything about it. They told me to contact www.ic3.gov, which I will.
]Now he doesn't reply.
Me Tracking Numbers???
Me So, once again, what the hell is going on?
Me Ok, if I don't get tracking numbers in 3 days, I'm filing a case with ic3.gov. I'm not going to give up on this until I get everything.
Nate
Sent this out this morning.
I didn't want to waste a hour putting this thread together, but I feel screwed and I figured I would post this up to warn anyone else that would be a potential buyer from him.
Well, in the beginning part of December, 2009, I purchased a full black interior and rear harness from RotarySupra, aka George Martinez. I sent payment on 12-10-2009. At first he worked with me real good, and I figured it would be a smooth transaction. To this date I have only received: most small pieces, carpet, harness, rear mirror. I have not received the dash, door panels, center council, etc. He has stopped replying to my pm's and emails, and he has not been on the forum since 1-10-2010.
Here's the list of PM's:
Him I double checked the interior and everything looks good.I don't have the demister grills on the dash, door vents are cracked, and the radio surround is from a s4.lmk what specific interior parts you want and I'll give you a qoute shipped to you by tonight. Thanks
Me Well, I need everything except the seats, cluster surround, and radio surround.
So I need everything from all the back pieces, carpet, dash, sun visors, door panels, etc. I'm doing a full color change so I need everything. I also need the rear view mirror assembly.
Thanks
Nate
Him Hey man, I just looked up shipping and all that,I'm willing to ship the big items thru ups or fedex. And the smaller stuff thru usps.how does 400 everything u need shipped.lmk and we can work something out.thanks
Me Yup. When can you have all of it shipped by? I'll shoot you a Paypal tomorrow when I get off work.
Thanks again
Nate
HimOk cool, I can have all this shipped out saturday morning since I have to take everything off the car and clean it. Here's my paypal cibrian_baby618@yahoo.com. Pm your adress. I'll send you tracking numbers when everything is shipped.thanks
Me Ok, just sent you a paypal. My address is:
Nate Libberton
7011 Mink Farm rd
South Wayne, WI 53587
Thanks
Him the shipping gonna be a little delayed since on I'm on bedrest cause I have pnumonia.but I'll have it sent Monday. Thanks
This was when I started wondering how this deal was going to go. But it was quite possible this was true so I wasn't too worried at the time.
Me Hey did you get that shipped out then?
Thanks
Nate
Him I sent out the interior pieces and the door sills today. my brother sent them out today so he has the tracking numbers tomorrow. The dash,harness,and carpet pieces are going to be sent out tomorrow thru fedex. I'll keep u updated, and sorry for the wait
He did send out the some of the small interior pieces and door sills.
Me Ok thanks.
Nate
Him Hey man,here's some of tracking numbers.
These are thru usps.
03082690000114133915
03082690000114133892
03082690000114133885
03082690000114133908
The carpet and the rest of the carpet pieces, I had trouble at fedex, they were being dicks about sizes and how messy the carpet was. So I have to clean it more but all these pieces should be their way.thanks
These were all valid tracking numbers. These were the small int pieces and the rear harness.
Me Alright, thanks again.
Him Hey man, I keep having trouble shipping the big items thru fedex or usps. They're bitching about the dimensions and about how I'm wrapping the dash. I've never shipped a dash or carpets. If there's anyway on how we can work something out lmk man. I feel like **** since I haven't shipped but I keep trying. Lmk on how I can ship it. Thanks
Me Have you tried UPS, they've always worked well with me. I have no clue on what other company would ship that.
But the stuff I've received already looks great. I started tearing into the car and I am finding a bunch of other stuff I'm going to need, so you might make some more money off me lol.
I guess try using UPS and see what they say, if that doesn't work I'll try to research what company other people use.
Thanks again
Nate
Him Hey man, good news. I just found out my wifes cousin works for fedex. Hell yea. Lmk what else you'll need. I still have the whole car. And some more parts should be on the way. I'll keep you updated on the situation.
Me Hey, just wondering if you had any tracking numbers, or when I can expect to see the parts in the mail?
Thanks
Nate
Him you should be reciveing the rest of the stuff mid next week.i finally got hook up with the dash,i bubble wrap the crap out of it.im out of town right now,so on sunday ill get you those numbers man,thanks.lmk if your goonna need anything else.
thanks
This was complete bullshit.
Me Hey, you have those tracking numbers then?
Thanks
Nate
Him here you go......
03082690000114053732
998ZY536SQ2485CV54
998ZY536YO8036BN78
Me What shipping company? They didn't work through fedex.
Him the first is usps...the next ones are ups
The first one was a valid tracking number, the next 2 were bullshit, never came.
At this point(1-9-10) He stopped PM'ing me
I filed a paypal dispute on 1-25-2010, Now we go to emails...
Him Hey Nate,This is Eric Martinez,i am George's brother,you know him as Rotarysupra on rx7 forum.He told me about the interior issue,my brother currently was recalled back to his unit in california,since he will be going on deployment to afghanistan next month.He tasked my younger brother of shipping the rest of the interior,but as we know 17yr old dont have any sense of responsibilty.So he didnt send them,and provide different tracking numbers to you.Im not emailing to make any excuses.i really apologize for any inconvinence and any troubles,i spoke to my brother last night,he said he wants to make things right for you.so he tasked me to send the rest of the stuff.I will,with no excuses,ship the rest of the stuff tomorrow.and i will also ask my brother to refund you some of the funds.he left me your address to send the rest of the items.also,he was notified by paypal and asked if you could end the dispute on paypal.George explained to me that none of this has never happened to him.i know he has sold and bought parts from the forums with no problems,and no other disputes.he has always shipped and paid items on time.
I will email you the tracking number,since i dont have the password to his rx7 forum log in.if you have any questions or concerns feel free to email me back to this address.i hope we figure something out.
Sounded real fishy, but I figured if I got my stuff I didn't care.
Me Ok, thank you for mailing me. I will gladly cancel the dispute once I receive the stuff in the mail. If you could get me the tracking numbers as soon as you can.
Thanks
Nate
Him hey nate.....i sent out the carpet today.im still preping the dash and the panels since their they are a little fragile.i also hae to send you the glove box and center console.ill send the console and the glove box tomorrow,i have them boxed up already.
heres the tracking number for the carpet,it was sent thru usps.
03082690000114041371
thanks and ill keep you updated.
Yes, he did send out the carpet, and it was the last thing I received.
Him hey nate,i was wondering if had recieved the carpeting?the glove box and some other stuff should be on its way by tomorrow.let me know when you cancel the dispute.the deadline is on the 9th,so hopefully we settle this and to cancel the dispute.thanks
Me Yes, I got it. Do you have tracking numbers? I will let paypal know about the situation, and get the deadline pushed back some. Once I receive all the items I will cancel it.
Thanks
Nate
At this point Paypal changed the status of the claim to 'Not as described'. I called them and they said being the seller sent me something, they couldn't do anything about it. They told me to contact www.ic3.gov, which I will.
]Now he doesn't reply.
Me Tracking Numbers???
Me So, once again, what the hell is going on?
Me Ok, if I don't get tracking numbers in 3 days, I'm filing a case with ic3.gov. I'm not going to give up on this until I get everything.
Nate
Sent this out this morning.
I didn't want to waste a hour putting this thread together, but I feel screwed and I figured I would post this up to warn anyone else that would be a potential buyer from him.
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well, I Can say this much, there are two of you, and two different accounts of this sale. Someone isnt telling the truth here.
What took place with the investigation? What exactly was the verdict and what was presented as proof? And what was the whole reason for the chargeback in the first place?
What took place with the investigation? What exactly was the verdict and what was presented as proof? And what was the whole reason for the chargeback in the first place?
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well, I Can say this much, there are two of you, and two different accounts of this sale. Someone isnt telling the truth here.
What took place with the investigation? What exactly was the verdict and what was presented as proof? And what was the whole reason for the chargeback in the first place?
What took place with the investigation? What exactly was the verdict and what was presented as proof? And what was the whole reason for the chargeback in the first place?
What do you mean by what was the whole reason for the chargeback in the first place?
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